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My only issue

Why is some CIA veteran spilling the beans with his snot nosed neighbor kid...out of all the people to confess to
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Friedman has told the story countless times, I've linked to it countless times, etc. It's not the dynamic you're describing, and makes sense within the context Friedman describes.
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astros4545 said:

My only issue

Why is some CIA veteran spilling the beans with his snot nosed neighbor kid...out of all the people to confess to

Not CIA. Was Department of Energy Secretary. DoE = gatekeepers of 'above TS' and is where the whole UAP discussion was siloed under 'nuclear secrecy' around the same time as the Manhattan Project.

The kid (who is a grown man now) has a very compelling story. Herrington did more damage to that story being 'false' by coming across as a stereotypical boomer.
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1 hour 40 in, a recent update from Jake Barber, including about a mothership

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397?i=1000793428245
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Not to mention, Friedman is both willing to take a lie detector test and testify under oath...

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To me it felt like @BryceZabel and @BFree63 show has started creating waves in broader society and particularly the movie industry and somebody wanted to discredit Brent

Clearly it seems this article was a timed to coincide with the Jesse interview and as the post you mention shows Herrington changed his story

But what also stood out to me was that for somebody who claimed to know nothing about the topic he certainly had his refutation talking points in order re UAPs which were suprisingly similar to the usual lines of military tech, people misunderstanding things etc plus his obvious additional line of Hollywood people doing special effects and exaggerating things.

Coupled to this he seemed to play down his own career and involvement in any projects but seemed to know enough to refute specific points when he had to.

The way he denied Jesse's Dogged attempts to tell him about things that official bodies and officials have said did not seem to me to be from the perspective of somebody with no interest as he proceeded to play wackamole with all Jesses evidence points.

In short he did not have a neutral position and some of his explanations were not credible from a person of his status

He also seemed to think he had slipped up mentioning he knew Harold Malmgrem and tried to retract this. Also he was a big mate of Bobby Ray Inman who whilst being a key figure in the legacy programme ,did a similar thing to Jay from project unity where he did an interview and denied everything

So it seemed to me he had been put up to come on and Deny Brents testimony and had come on with some prepared talking points.

However I suspect he underestimated Jesse's knowledge and ability , seeing him as just a kid, and had not prepared widely enough for the interview thinking he would just focus on denying what Brent said.

So I'm afraid he was not convincing at all and I did not Buy it. He also did say to Brent he would deny it if asked

I contrast this with Brent's telling of the story which is credible,consistent and one he has absolutely no reason to make up. It contains facts and references to what has only recently come to light and more generally is consistent with the emerging footprint of legacy programme activities

If I'm correct I am shocked though at the cynical way Herrington was prepared to come on a show and try to destroy the reputation of somebody who it seems he had a close relationship to.

This I think shows the mentality of this group of secret keepers and their sense of mission and shows again why they can't be trusted to make decisions given they are so afraid for them to be scrutinised

I also felt really sorry for Brent as this must have been a real kick in the teeth for him given the relationship he had with Herrington. Hearing how upset his mother got underlined this and I hope mr Herrington reflects on this as well as he looks in the mirror

But for me I believe Brent and his account and Herrington doing this interview with Jesse just shows both how rattled these legacy programme people are in this current disclosure climate and the arrogance they still retain within it.

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Good point about Herrington being compelled to respond and underestimating Jesse. Similar to Elizando and Gerb. Another example of both / and instead of either / or. They're legitimate, important, and also some measure of disinfo. agent.

The former Secretary did badly, and it was painful.

From my link just above, and also on his subsequent podcast, we got confirmation this week:

- Barber is active and working (probably) with Stephen Miller, but the WH for sure. Was nice to hear his voice, even if recorded clandestine
- Elizando back to being a Fed, which he confirmed
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Lue is back in government employ?
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We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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Just a little bit of humor on a Friday.

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What's crazy is that Walter knows MUCH more than what he's saying out loud.
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Kirn and Alberino are both part of the Montana group that receives mostly informal briefings from active and retired high-level clearances. And obviously they know Weinstein. Nolan and other quasi-Feds as well.

Even assuming they're being used, which I do not believe, we absolutely do have this:

Credentialed speakers subjectively describing something like more objective realities, as blindfolded people would after feeling an elephant.

Therefore, very noteworthy, regardless.
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Alberino also made an important point in his latest YT video: nothing Grusch said has been outside of ufology these past few decades.

Doesn't mean it's accurate, only that we must think through disparate people, pre-Internet, different environments, speaking of similar things and situations …. even with lies, limited hangouts, money chasing, attention seeking - the consilience is present.
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Thank you for posting that.

People, Disclosure is literally happening right now. What's your standard of evidence? Because Stratton is not just some guy.
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David is a former USAF Major and NRO/NGA intelligence officer read into the vast majority of the DoD-IC's black programs (SAPs/CAPs). He was even part of the extremely sensitive Presidential Daily Brief. He was a golden boy of the defense-intel community.

His ICIG complaint was deemed "credible" and "urgent" and he was referred to the SSCI/HPSCI and gave 11 hours of detailed depositions under oath to staff and general counsels of the intel committees, including to Rubio and Warner's senior staffers.

He has also testified publicly to the House Oversight committee, AARO, FBI, and now Trump's PURSUE initiative. If even one of the above bodies caught him in a lie, they could put him in federal prison for years on perjury charges. Instead, he's been cleared of any wrongdoing and his clearance was reinstated.

The people that oversee the most sensitive parts of the most powerful government to have ever existed say he's credible. Your statement is laughably ridiculous. If you aren't being paid, you should really sit down and reexamine your critical thinking skills.

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Here is the beginning of Jay Stratton's book "The Awakening" that has just been released today with a forward by Hal Puthoff.

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FORWARD

For over fifty years, I have worked as a senior scientist in classified programs for the intelligence community and the Department of War, including multiple classified programs regarding unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP). Through my experiences working for the U.S. Government, my colleagues and I learned firsthand of classified evidence that humanity is not the only intelligent life in the universe.

We are now living through a major turning point in human history, the period in which the public learns we are not alone. As disclosure of the long-hidden truth now unfolds in the public domain and everyone comes to understand that the human species is among many species throughout the universe, I am very hopeful this realization can unite all of humanity and lead to a greater appreciation of what it means to be a human. That change on the human character will be as significant to the trajectory of our species as the technological breakthroughs inspired by technologies of non-human origin.

At ninety years old, with much of my life's work done in secrecy, I am profoundly grateful to be witnessing this paradigm shift. My grandchildren will grow up knowing and thinking about the fact that the universe is full of life, and they will benefit from technological opportunities and possibilities that would have been considered science fiction in the past. Based on my experiences, I can say with certainty that we would not be living in this age of disclosure without Jay Stratton.

He has been the most impactful force behind the U.S. Government's modern-day investigations of UAP for over twenty years. He is a brave patriot who risked everything to pursue the truth and bring about disclosure. Over the last two decades, I have worked closely with Jay as a colleague and consider him one of my closest and most trustworthy friends. I have witnessed his leadership, his relentless work ethic, and his investigative, observational, intellectual, and analytical skills, all of which are second to none. While his work has largely been done in the shadows, he has therein changed the course of human history.

When dedicated servicemen raise their hands and take an oath to serve and protect the United States of America, there is no crystal ball as to where their dedication will take them. Certainly no one would expect to be confronted with craft of non-human origin penetrating sensitive restricted airspaces, evidence of non-human intelligent life interacting with humankind, and the discovery of a massive cover-up involving elements of the U.S. Government that have been retrieving and working to reverse engineer crashed UAP of non-human origin since at least the 1940s. But for Jay Stratton, that is exactly where his path led.

In this memoir, Jay thoughtfully takes you, the reader, step by step on his riveting, eye-opening journey and reveals long-hidden truths that impact us all. Jay breaking his silence in such vivid detail is a major milestone for disclosure and human history. I anticipate this book being read closely worldwide for many years to come and highly encourage you to share it with your family and friends.

Hal Puthoff, PhD, Former Chief Scientist of the Defense Intelligence Agency's Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP)


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AWAKENING
It's 4:00 a.m., March 12, 2014, in rural Southern Maryland. My eyes snap open. Time to get up for work. My wife, Michele, is still sound asleep next to me. Our sons, Jonny and Chris, won't be up for hours. I step out of our bedroom and turn down the dark hallway; it is leading to a bright light illuminating my living room. Cautious, I approach the end of the hallway. Jonny, our younger son, is asleep on the living room couch.

He has been sleeping there due to the sheer number of terrifying anomalous incidents that occurred in his bedroom. Sensing something, I look to the window, where I see what is unmistakably a non-human being staring at my son. It's gray and has a large head with small black eyes, no noticeable nose, and a small mouth. Startled, it turns to face me. We have a few seconds of a standoff, then the light goes dark, and it's gone.

I run out the front door into the cold, predawn silence. Nothing's there. I clock the area as I move down our sidewalk toward the driveway, triggering our security light. It gives off a soft glow, much different than the very bright light that had been coming into the living room window. None of the signatures I was trained to look for are present. No strange smells, no craft or electricity in the air, no strange feelings. I check the living room window, almost 9 feet off the ground. How could anyone or anything look at me from that window and disappear in seconds?

As shocking as this may sound, at this point in my life, I was not surprised that my family and I were being observed by non-human intelligent life. I had been investigating unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP), also known as unidentified flying objects (UFOs), and non-human intelligence (NHI) for about nine years as a Senior Defense Intelligence Officer (DIO) on behalf of the U.S. Government.

My family and I had never had any personal experience with UAP or NHI prior to my investigations, but we have had plenty of experiences since then. Were they paying attention to me because I was paying attention to them? It certainly seemed that way. The U.S. intelligence community (IC) tracks and observes foreign operatives spying on U.S. intelligence officers. Maybe the same dynamic was at play with the NHIs that I was focusing on. As I gained more seniority, eventually becoming the civilian equivalent of a two-star Admiral, and more deeply involved in the topic on behalf of the government, the events escalated.

To this day, my wife and I, our now-adult children, and even our family dogs, all regularly deal with encounters with NHI. As the most senior U.S. Government official to ever investigate UAP and non-human intelligent life on behalf of the U.S. Government, I was tasked with exploring a realm where the unknown meets the undeniable. I did this for more than sixteen years, longer than any other intelligence official.

After nearly thirty-three years in total of service to my nation, eight deployments in multiple war zones, years spent on Capitol Hill, the Pentagon, across the IC, and deep inside classified vaults, there came a point when silence no longer felt like discipline. It felt like neglect. Neglect of the best interest of my nation and all of humanity.

It is time for me to step out of the shadows. While much of what I have experienced, seen, and learned is classified, it is time to break my silence with what I can lawfully disclose. To be clear, I have been discouraged from even speaking publicly about what I lawfully can, and doing so will come with repercussions, but the public deserves to know what I can share and how it affects every single one of us.

This memoir chronicles the truth behind the secrets, challenges, and revelations that I encountered in a career few can imagine and many will struggle to comprehend. Some people write memoirs to preserve a legacy. I wrote this one to confront the legacy of institutional secrecy and disinformation. To confront the deeply hidden Legacy UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program that has covered up the existence of non-human intelligent life for more than eighty years. To confront those involved in the secret war with adversarial nations to capture, retrieve, and reverse engineer technology of non-human origin. And to confront the false narratives others have built: narratives shaped using my work, my programs, and my life.

I wrote this to open the public's eyes to the fact that we are not alone in this universe, and we are not the most intelligent life. The stakes for what has been happening in secrecy are too high, not only for the national security of the nation . . . but for the future of the human species. What we collectively do with the truths I will reveal matters far more than the repercussions I will face. I hope what I have to share reaches those who have not been paying attention, the ones who never thought this subject mattered. If I can reach you, and you begin to understand how important this is and everything at stake, that might be the spark we need to cross the next great threshold, to survive and evolve as a species, to understand our place in the universe and the bigger picture that impacts us all.

-Jay Stratton
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My copy arrives today.

Thanks for posting.
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Redstone
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tightly-controlled language cleared DOPSR review

"Non-human craft and non-human beings"

This explains the pausing and exact same phrase in Age of Disclosure

Notice what's not really detailed in the film, or I bet when he gets to Rogan for 2 - 3 hours?

Legacy, agreements, preternatural entities (fairies, Bigfoot, mermaids, etc - manifestations with witnesses saying can be connected to orbs / objects)
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Redstone said:

Thank you for posting that.

People, Disclosure is literally happening right now. What's your standard of evidence? Because Stratton is not just some guy.


My standard of evidence is actual evidence. I hope we get some. So far we have none. The claims are intriguing and exciting, yes. But I refresh this thread every day hoping for actual evidence. Hopefully it happens soon.
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watty said:

Redstone said:

Thank you for posting that.

People, Disclosure is literally happening right now. What's your standard of evidence? Because Stratton is not just some guy.


My standard of evidence is actual evidence. I hope we get some. So far we have none. The claims are intriguing and exciting, yes. But I refresh this thread every day hoping for actual evidence. Hopefully it happens soon.

I agree, but I will also point out that the documents that have been officially released in the 6 tranches do represent actual, solid evidence. Ignore the videos and photos. They're mostly useless and inconclusive at best. The documents are often fascinating. They paint a much more complete picture of the extent to which the government has been continuously investigating UFO/UAP sightings since the 1940s. We've never seen a lot of these. Certainly not unredacted.
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Redstone said:

tightly-controlled language cleared DOPSR review

"Non-human craft and non-human beings"

This explains the pausing and exact same phrase in Age of Disclosure

Notice what's not really detailed in the film, or I bet when he gets to Rogan for 2 - 3 hours?

Legacy, agreements, preternatural entities (fairies, Bigfoot, mermaids, etc - manifestations with witnesses saying can be connected to orbs / objects)
The stamp of "DOPSR review" doesn't mean "accurate". It only means that the material released doesn't represent a breach of the author's duty to protect classified information. The claim could be completely false and still pass DOPSR review. I think you know this.
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All I will say is that they 100% knew what they were doing when they siloed all of this info under Atomic/Nuclear Secrecy and the DoE. Why would anybody look there about UAP's? Even if you did, NUCLEAR SECRETS!
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To this day, my wife and I, our now-adult children, and even our family dogs, all regularly deal with encounters with NHI.

Bro time to get yourself a ring camera. Or set up an iphone. A Game Cam. A VHS recorder.
Prove it!!
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Apache said:

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To this day, my wife and I, our now-adult children, and even our family dogs, all regularly deal with encounters with NHI.

Bro time to get yourself a ring camera. Or set up an iphone. A Game Cam. A VHS recorder.
Prove it!!
Right? Dude sounds ****oo.
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I am very well aware of that, which is why I've constantly used phrases like credible and highly-credentialed.

Grusch and Stratton and Gallaudet and Fravor especially. Elizando less so.
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Alberino makes some excellent and important distinctions here. He's in regular contact with Burlison and Luna, among others.

Listen on 1.75 and it only takes 50 minutes. He's a skilled, detailed, succinct talker.

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watty said:

Redstone said:

Thank you for posting that.

People, Disclosure is literally happening right now. What's your standard of evidence? Because Stratton is not just some guy.


My standard of evidence is actual evidence. I hope we get some. So far we have none. The claims are intriguing and exciting, yes. But I refresh this thread every day hoping for actual evidence. Hopefully it happens soon.


Exactly, for all we know this could be "Project Blue Beam" playing out before our eyes. And you can't say "come on man, that's a crazy conspiracy theory" while completely buying into "there are aliens who live here on earth and have always lived here but they leave us completely alone". Those are both pretty crazy notions if we are being honest. And only one can be true...either advanced aliens really do coexist here on earth with humans, or we are being lied to, deceived into thinking they do.

I need to see more. All I know is that you cannot trust anyone...and the bigger the institution, the less you can trust it. And we are constantly being lied to, for one reason or another.
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To this day, my wife and I, our now-adult children, and even our family dogs, all regularly deal with encounters with NHI.

Good grief.
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I highly suggest that you folks actually read Stratton's book before making uninformed comments.

But, this is TexAgs, so what am I thinking…
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I (mostly) want all of this to be true. But to my thinking a whistleblower is not a true whistleblower unless they provide the evidence. Not just talk. This is all encouraging, but at some point someone has to spill it.

In today's climate, though, half the country would think them landing on the capitol steps was fake.

Enthusiastically waiting.
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