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Ghost of Bisbee said:

In need to listen to the telepath tapes
Go into it speculative as I think that's the best course for someone going into this whole topic at a 50000 foot view. Make your own conclusions and don't rely on anything we say on TexAgs or anywhere else. It's extremely well laid out and well done. The whole series takes a very scientific approach which is 100% the right way to go about it.
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Overall, I have to say that was certainly more satisfying than I was expecting. On one hand, it wasn't game-changing or anything, but on the other hand, the footage of the egg was insane/actually delivered, and the quality/reputability of the whistleblower team as a whole is significant. I wasn't expecting the "psionic" element at all, but even that was handled well and surprisingly convincing/emotional. It just feels like the crack in the dam is continuing to grow, the pressure is becoming undeniable, and sooner or later the whole thing is going to break wide open.
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I don't think the needle moves a millimeter after tonight. I just don't. The video is exactly what I was thinking it was gonna be. A night vision clip of a few seconds with no people present and something being moved. I took about 90 seconds to peruse other sites like Reddit and Twitter and pretty much no one is believing it.


Barber is just another personal account to add to a list of them at this point. To anyone not super deep into this subject, it's a +1 at best of the same thing. The footage is clear and shows something, if you already believe there is something. Way too easy to fake if you believe otherwise. This is not the smoking gun Ross hoped for I think. At least not to the general public.
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Ha. The dichotomy of the last two posts is hilarious to me.

I will say though that my views on it are colored from outside influences. TA is not even close to my first media platform these days. My takes on the general barometer of the public At least. Which is probably flawed greatly admittedly. But definitely seeing a lot of pushback already from tonight's reveal. A hell of a whole lot more than I was expecting if I'm being honest.
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We are rapidly approaching post-Disclosure.

The above testimony is religious.
For Christians, following Protestant scholar Michael Heiser and also the Apostolic (Catholic / Orthodox) mystical tradition (including my favorite, Anne Catherine Emmerich) ….

Angels / satans (messenger / accuser) are more job descriptions and less categories of being. Other creations, including embodied spirits such as humans, can exist, as can "trickster entities," "planetary spirits"…,.
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Eliminatus said:

I don't think the needle moves a millimeter after tonight. I just don't. The video is exactly what I was thinking it was gonna be. A night vision clip of a few seconds with no people present and something being moved. I took about 90 seconds to peruse other sites like Reddit and Twitter and pretty much no one is believing it.


Barber is just another personal account to add to a list of them at this point. To anyone not super deep into this subject, it's a +1 at best of the same thing. The footage is clear and shows something, if you already believe there is something. Way too easy to fake if you believe otherwise. This is not the smoking gun Ross hoped for I think. At least not to the general public.


No one credible said this was going to be a smoking gun, especially not Ross. And frankly, I don't give a **** what the public thinks at this point. We need to quit measuring this stuff in terms of its dent in the public's awareness, seeing as nothing is ever going to move the needle in that regard until we have undeniable, irrefutable proof. All that matters right now is that a convincing argument continues to be built, it's more toothpaste that can't go back in the tube, and that this will no doubt embolden addition whistleblowers. It's about continuing to pave the road to disclosure, not necessarily about changing minds quite yet.
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Quote:

He speaks on "This is one of the most Profound Experience's I've had in my LIFE! "

Jake says he feels "As i get closer to this Pick-site, I start feeling ODD, I start feeling EXTREMELY Emotional & the closer I get the More the Emotion starts to overwhelm me, I feel this intense hybrid of SADNESS & HAPPINESS & BEAUTY & SONG & IT WAS VERY DISRUPTIVE TO ME, because I had a very Practicable responsibility at the time to operate a Helicopter in the mountains at night & wondering what was wrong with me! "
Consciousness is the Key to this Phenomenon & this Interaction shows this!!
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Spirits are revealing themselves, as has happened in various ways throughout human history.
(doesn't means aliens don't exist, I believe in that also)

It's time to awaken and consider our place in the cosmos. If we are embodied spirits, in this particular materialist understanding and dimension, what does this necessitate about a supreme creator spirit?
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TCTTS said:

Very common reaction among those who claim encounters with UAP. Look into the work of Garry Nolan, who they're currently interviewing. He's as reputable as they come/has been contracted by the government to study these effects.
Lou also talked about this effect in Imminent. The "warp bubble" propulsion tech affects light wavelengths, which cause increasing biological damage the closer you get. At far distances, it's like sunburn (such as from intense UV exposure.) At very close distances, it's gamma rays and death.
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This is basically the "post game show" and not the actual whistleblower interview/episode, just FYI. Hopefully the episode itself will be released online soon.
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Yeah, I just edited my post. I saw he posted an hour long video and watched the first little bit and assumed it was it.
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I poo poo all the clickbait stuff, but would love the idea of extra terrestrial life. The idea that we aren't alone would actually be comforting. I am a data person though, and as time goes on, the estimates in the Drake Equation seem to get lower and lower. One recent study estimated that there may only be 1 intelligent life planet for every 2500 galaxies. As we poke around, the planets with things like water and plate tectonics appear to be rarer and rarer. Of course there could be other ways life forms, and that would still mean millions of planets with life out there, given there may be up to 2 trillion galaxies . But not anything remotely close enough to reasonably reach us by any method we can currently comprehend. So the Fermi paradox may not be a paradox at all, we may just be exceedingly rare. Which makes it all the more critical that we don't self destruct, would be a shame to see that miracle be wasted.
Jmo.
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oragator said:

I poo poo all the clickbait stuff, but would love the idea of extra terrestrial life. The idea that we aren't alone would actually be comforting. I am a data person though, and as time goes on, the estimates in the Drake Equation seem to get lower and lower. One recent study estimated that there may only be 1 intelligent life planet for every 2500 galaxies. As we poke around, the planets with things like water and plate tectonics appear to be rarer and rarer. Of course there could be other ways life forms, and that would still mean millions of planets with life out there, given there may be up to 2 trillion galaxies . But not anything remotely close enough to reasonably reach us by any method we can currently comprehend. So the Fermi paradox may not be a paradox at all, we may just be exceedingly rare. Which makes it all the more critical that we don't self destruct, would be a shame to see that miracle be wasted.
Jmo.
You'll find this BBC podcast episode very interesting. It's a discussion about the current state of exoplanet and exobiology research. No UAPs.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m0025vvd
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The Drake Equation and the Fermi Paradox are most likely irrelevant and only matter in the old ways of considering the phenomenon. We have to stop thinking in three dimensions as human beings with only five senses to interpret the limited spectrum of reality in which we exist. At this point, with everything we now know, UAP/NHI are almost assuredly inter-dimensional. Maybe they began on another planet (or planets), but it's becoming increasingly likely that species evolve to "ascend" into "higher" planes of existence via quantum mechanics rather than out into the universe, the latter of which is nothing more than the end result of the industrial age and an industrial age way of thinking.
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Not only is the universe stranger than we think, it's stranger than we CAN think.
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Bingo. Well said.
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"UAP/NHI are almost assuredly inter-dimensional."

What does this mean?
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Agristotle said:

Not only is the universe stranger than we think, it's stranger than we CAN think.

The actual quote is:

"Now, my own suspicion is that the universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose…"

J.B.S. Haldane
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MW03 said:

"UAP/NHI are almost assuredly inter-dimensional."

What does this mean?


Reportedly, UAP often have the ability to seemingly blink in and out of existence, travel through solid matter, etc. Not to mention, Grusch and other credible officials like him have made the inter-dimensional claims themselves, as if those in-the-know from whom they've gathered their info have seen some kind of evidence of this. To that end, science increasingly indicates that there's a "quantum field" beyond our three-dimensional understanding of reality, one that binds everything, is responsible for quantum entanglement, etc, and that quantum field/realm/dimension could be where at least some NHI reside/"ascended" to. If so, think of UAP/NHI craft kind of like we use submarines to descend into more dense waters, except they could be "descending" into our denser, three-dimensional reality from whatever 4D/5D/quantum dimension they may or may not be from. Obviously I'm no scientist, but that's the best I can explain it.
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TCTTS said:

Eliminatus said:

I don't think the needle moves a millimeter after tonight. I just don't. The video is exactly what I was thinking it was gonna be. A night vision clip of a few seconds with no people present and something being moved. I took about 90 seconds to peruse other sites like Reddit and Twitter and pretty much no one is believing it.


Barber is just another personal account to add to a list of them at this point. To anyone not super deep into this subject, it's a +1 at best of the same thing. The footage is clear and shows something, if you already believe there is something. Way too easy to fake if you believe otherwise. This is not the smoking gun Ross hoped for I think. At least not to the general public.


No one credible said this was going to be a smoking gun, especially not Ross. And frankly, I don't give a **** what the public thinks at this point. We need to quit measuring this stuff in terms of its dent in the public's awareness, seeing as nothing is ever going to move the needle in that regard until we have undeniable, irrefutable proof. All that matters right now is that a convincing argument continues to be built, it's more toothpaste that can't go back in the tube, and that this will no doubt embolden addition whistleblowers. It's about continuing to pave the road to disclosure, not necessarily about changing minds quite yet.
I disagree to an extent. I am generally on board with personally not giving a **** about public opinion. However, I do think that that type of external pressure is literally the only thing that will ever put any bend on the government to finally disclose anything at all. Essentially, we need noise. We need noise from a lot of people and from a lot of angles. This keeps it in the front news and forces the position on the government instead of letting them just roll it under a rug. At least in my opinion. We have pressure and some momentum now, more so than ever before. It needs to reach a head though and I truly do believe that will come with public pressure playing a significant role in that.

If the public doesn't care, the government wouldn't be in a position to be accountable IOW. Might be a simplistic way of looking at it but I think it holds weight in my experience and observations of government and Congress in general.
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I guess our fundamental difference is that I believe no amount of external pressure/noise/voices will ever persuade the powers-that-be to disclose, unless forced by undeniable proof leaked by a first-hand whistleblower. As in, clear-as-day, 4K military footage of multiple craft breaking the laws of physics, along with images/video of actual NHI bodies, all backed up by paperwork and corroborating testimony from highly credible individuals. To me, that's what all of this should ultimately be leading to, to the point where such footage/testimony makes such huge waves that the government has no choice but to address it.

Otherwise, IMO, even fifty Grushs/Barbers aren't going to move the needle. The only other option, I think, would be a former president, or official who's nearly as credible, admitting we're not alone and that the government is covering it up.

Ultimately, it sounds we're both saying the powers-that-be will have to be forced, I just think we differ on what it's going to take to force them.

I could of course always be wrong, though.
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TCTTS said:

I guess our fundamental difference is that I believe no amount of external pressure/noise/voices will ever persuade the powers-that-be to disclose, unless forced by undeniable proof leaked by a first-hand whistleblower. As in, clear-as-day, 4K military footage of multiple craft breaking the laws of physics, along with images/video of actual NHI bodies, all backed up by paperwork and corroborating testimony from highly credible individuals. To me, that's what all of this should ultimately be leading to, to the point where such footage/testimony makes such huge waves that the government has no choice but to address it.

Otherwise, IMO, even fifty Grushs/Barbers aren't going to move the needle. The only other option, I think, would be a former president, or official who's nearly as credible, admitting we're not alone and that the government is covering it up.

Ultimately, it sounds we're both saying the powers-that-be will have to be forced, I just think we differ on what it's going to take to force them.

I could of course always be wrong, though.
Agreed.

It's honestly probably a mix of both. I see it as layers really. Us peasants, the whistleblowers/hands on operators, then Congress that is accountable to the constituents. Meaning mostly the newbies and those who give a **** or have no real power in the House. Then the next layer of the REAL Congress I think all of us agree exists. That one that is the true power in Washington that even no President could ever really hope to touch. The one who protects the secrets and never changes no matter who comes and goes every four/six years.

I think our pressure on the first layer of Congress is what I would think has the best hope of cracking that deep layer of Congress. I think it is why there is even a Congressional push from newer Rep. Mace in the first place and even if she is not a mover and shaker in her own right, she ostensibly has the same rights and powers to gain access to findings and evidence that otherwise would never see the light of the day from the second layer of Congress.

Or I could just be overthinking it. I dunno. I just know that Congress loves playing mum every chance they can for pretty much everything, unless called out on something. And I think whistleblowers are just too easy to discredit on this topic unless it IS a smoking gun of sorts. Almost a no win situation IMO, but if mixed with a growing fervor a public pressure that has their Congress critters actually paying attention and poking around as well?? Maybe? Jusssst maybe??

And I think my tone was not clear/misleading in my original post. I personally think some good came out of tonight. I also didn't catch it all either and need to go back and watch the full thing.
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Ok, I think this is it this time

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It sounds like we're mostly on the same page and I agree that all the pressure you're talking about, outside of a smoking gun, certainly can't hurt. You're probably right that, ultimately, it's going to take a mixture of both - i.e. as much as humanly possibly - to finally crack this nut. Good news is, like I said earlier, everything you're saying *does* seem far more likely under a Trump presidency, with who he's put in place and how much a number of them seem to want disclosure.
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Visiting the hill, via telepathy.

24 minute new supplementary episode.

https://thetelepathytapes.com

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-telepathy-tapes/id1766382649?i=1000684544315
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Eliminatus said:

Ha. The dichotomy of the last two posts is hilarious to me.

I will say though that my views on it are colored from outside influences. TA is not even close to my first media platform these days. My takes on the general barometer of the public At least. Which is probably flawed greatly admittedly. But definitely seeing a lot of pushback already from tonight's reveal. A hell of a whole lot more than I was expecting if I'm being honest.
Curious. What are some of the arguments cited by skeptics on yesterday's reveal?
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benchmark said:

Eliminatus said:

Ha. The dichotomy of the last two posts is hilarious to me.

I will say though that my views on it are colored from outside influences. TA is not even close to my first media platform these days. My takes on the general barometer of the public At least. Which is probably flawed greatly admittedly. But definitely seeing a lot of pushback already from tonight's reveal. A hell of a whole lot more than I was expecting if I'm being honest.
Curious. What are some of the arguments cited by skeptics on yesterday's reveal?
I didn't really dabble in it last night. Just enough to get first gauge. Most of it, I can sorta relate to though.

First was the usual over hyping and dramatization of the whole leadup. The usual shenanigans from the usual suspects. Nothing new there. Then the video itself. I tend to agree with it. It didn't really do nothing for me. Two main problems for me. It has zero context in it and it has no real scale. It may seem nitpicky but it's just a weird video that is strengthened solely on being told what it is and what is happening. Which is my second problem. It is another anonymous sourced video. I thought it was Barber's video but nah. 11 seconds of showing an egg shaped thing on a line. That is it. Which we have to rely on "Trust me, bro" context behind it, and people are burning out on that line real quick. Like I mentioned above, if you already believe it is a capture of an alien craft, this footage is fantastic. But if there is any room for skepticism, or in my case, for something to be crystal clear on it's own to have true weight, then the video is left wanting. Too easy to fake and too easy to dismiss.

And the whole feminine divine energy rubbed a lot of people wrong too tbh. IMO, there is a fairly large group of people who are not ready or willing to marry the idea of NHI and telepathic communication together. Then sprinkle in religious aspects and you lose even more people.

That was my first impressions just doom scrolling around for a bit though. I don't actively engage on these platforms on this topic. A mere lurker.
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My quote is from Heisenberg.
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The memes are glorious

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