Trying to find if there is any video of this but nothing so far. Assemblywoman from NJ. Thought this was super pertinent as the government has more or less punted the can over to local authorities from what I can tell with coordination with local FBI office which would likely not be very helpful if I were to guess.

I just left the New Jersey State Police HQ following the briefing of New Jersey State Legislators relating to the unexplained drone sightings in New Jersey.
Might I add - @GovMurphy
was not present. My notes are organized following my take below on the situation.

1. We know… pic.twitter.com/kPnFGd5g5u

— Dawn Fantasia (@DawnFantasia_NJ) December 11, 2024

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I just left the New Jersey State Police HQ following the briefing of New Jersey State Legislators relating to the unexplained drone sightings in New Jersey.
Might I add -
@GovMurphy

was not present. My notes are organized following my take below on the situation.

1. We know nothing. PERIOD. To state that there is no known or credible threat is incredibly misleading, and I informed all officials of that sentiment.
2. State authorities, including the NJSP, are shackled with what they are able to do. Any interception or takedown of any UAS is under the strict jurisdiction of the federal government.
3. At this point, I believe military intervention is the only path forward. There will be no answers in the absence of proactivity.
4. The US Coast Guard seems to be the most likely to intervene based upon our briefing, but even that component was shrouded in mystery.

Here is my summary of the briefing :

Overview of the Issue:
First Sightings: Reported on 11/18, with sightings occurring every night since then, from dusk until 11 PM (67 hours).
Frequency: Reports range from 4 to 180 sightings per night.

Description:
Large drones (up to 6 ft in diameter).
Operate in a coordinated manner.
Lights are turned off, making them difficult to detect.
Appear to avoid detection by traditional methods (e.g., helicopters, radio frequencies).
Not identified as hobbyist drones or related to DHS.

Investigation and Response
1. Agencies Involved:
FBI: Designated as the lead agency for investigations.
New Jersey State Police (NJSP): Coordinates with the FBI on follow-ups.
Office of Homeland Security and Preparedness (OHSP): Provides training and situational awareness.
U.S. Coast Guard: Involved in determining steps under their jurisdiction (details not disclosed).

2. Federal Involvement:
FAA: Made night flights legal in 2023, but require operators to maintain line of sight, which is not being observed in these cases.
Lack of Federal Legislation: Existing bills on drone regulation remain stalled in Congress.

3. Detection Challenges:
NJSP deployed helicopters over Raritan Bay but could not detect drones, even with infrared cameras.
Current radio frequencies do not pick up drone signals.
Col. Callahan expressed concerns about potential danger, leading to a halt in helicopter deployments.

4. Training and Preparedness:
In-person Counter-Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS) Training starts in Monmouth County in January and will expand statewide.
A UAS Dashboard is being developed for tracking and managing drone sightings.

Key Concerns
Unknown Origins: Authorities do not know where these drones take off or land.
Capabilities: Drones maintain flight for extended periods (67 hours) and over distances of 15 miles, raising questions about their technology and intent.

Airspace Regulation:
Most sightings are in unrestricted airspace, but their behavior is unusual and potentially nefarious.
Unlike manned aircraft, these drones appear to operate without lights and evade detection.

Public Safety:
Possible threats remain unconfirmed, but the lack of detection capability is a significant concern.
See Something, Say Something campaigns encourage the public to report sightings to local law enforcement and the FBI.

Statements from Officials:
Laurie Doran (Director of OHSP):
There is no known or credible threat at this time. (I DISAGREE)
Urges continued reporting to law enforcement.

Colonel Pat Callahan (NJSP):
Suspended helicopter flights to investigate drones over safety concerns.
Emphasized the rapid pace of technological development in drones.

Brent Cotton (DHS Counterterrorism): Highlighted challenges in threat prevention and the need for improved technology and protocols.

Next Steps
1. Enhanced Surveillance: Use of infrared cameras and additional Coast Guard resources.
2. Legislation and Policy: Advocate for advancing federal drone legislation stalled in Congress.
3. Public Engagement: Encourage reporting via the See Something, Say Something initiative.

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Holy crap to: A) the increasing graveness of the situation, B) the utter cluelessness of the FBI/local authorities, C) the silence on the federal level, and D) the thoroughness of that report. This is getting nuts.

Everything about this is really weird.

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We have drone jammers and anti-drone weaponry.

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I posted links on the limits of drone jamming, the gap between the US and China, and why the US would be pushing new drone development.

What links do you have to support the repeated claims about "drone jammers and anti-drone weaponry?"

Very reminiscent of what often happens to drones/electronics at Skinwalker Ranch (as seen on History's The Secret of Skinwalker Ranch)...

“I put my drone up in the air and went towards it. I had full battery life.

Three minutes into the flight I lost control of the drone and my drone started going down. Dead battery.”

New Jersey man tries intercepting mystery drone with his fully charged drone then his battery… pic.twitter.com/2NdvylgHHA

— Red Panda Koala (@RedPandaKoala) December 11, 2024

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“I put my drone up in the air and went towards it. I had full battery life.

Three minutes into the flight I lost control of the drone and my drone started going down. Dead battery.”

New Jersey man tries intercepting mystery drone with his fully charged drone then his battery… pic.twitter.com/2NdvylgHHA

— Red Panda Koala (@RedPandaKoala) December 11, 2024

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That is SW Ranch type stuff

Ha, whoa, I just edited my post to say the same thing.

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4. Training and Preparedness:
In-person Counter-Unmanned Aircraft Systems (UAS) Training starts in Monmouth County in January and will expand statewide.
A UAS Dashboard is being developed for tracking and managing drone sightings.

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I find this quite the coincidence. We have an influx of drone activity just a couple months before major training is going to happen on how to counter drones. Seems like a good way for agencies to study drones before training personnel on dealing with them.

Also, that tweet said these things are operating without lights, which makes me wonder if any of the videos we've seen posted are actually drones.

Zero.
Just military people telling me. I wouldn't know.

New Jersey State Rep Brian Bergen just walked OUT of the homeland security briefing on the drone situation in NJ, fed up

He said it was a waste of time and they have no answers to who is behind the mystery drones.
pic.twitter.com/qS5Sfj3luc

— Red Panda Koala (@RedPandaKoala) December 11, 2024

Again, the usual caveat that I don't necessarily buy what I'm posting here, I'm merely posting because it's an interesting theory. That, and at this point it seems everyone is just throwing **** at the wall to see what sticks...

That doesn't leave a lot of options. As I've shared before, an extremely well-connected intel contact of mine suggested that a lot of what we see in our skies may belong to a...

"Non-Nation-State Hostile Intelligence Service (NNSHIS)."

Is that who's behind these mysterious… https://t.co/l9sypHCxc4

— Joe Murgia (@TheUfoJoe) December 11, 2024

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Let me get this straight.

1. The Pentagon is "aware" of the "drone" situation.

2. They have no evidence it's coming from a foreign entity or adversary.

3. They are not US military drones.

4. It's not an Iranian mothership.

5. FBI knows nothing.

5. Local law enforcement knows nothing.

6. None have been shot down.

A total and complete breakdown of the illusion of control over U.S. airspace.

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That doesn't leave a lot of options. As I've shared before, an extremely well-connected intel contact of mine suggested that a lot of what we see in our skies may belong to a...

"Non-Nation-State Hostile Intelligence Service (NNSHIS)."

Is that who's behind these mysterious drones? Or, at least some of them?

My contact also added that another person who thinks along those same lines is, "a recent CIA Director and Secretary of State."

Pretty obvious who that is:

"It is time to call out WikiLeaks for what it really is -- a non-state hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like Russia." ~Mike Pompeo - Former CIA Director and Secretary of State (via CBS News .com)

Now, I don't think my contact was referring to WikiLeaks so there must be others who fit that description. But who?

This is from November 26th...

@Condorman6: "Some friends have told me that there must be a new tech involved if we can't trace the origin and destination of the 'drones.' Some have even suggested a third party may be displaying ARV type tech in these drones. That's a big jump but plausible until we're told otherwise."

@TheUfoJoe: "When I spoke to @travisstaylor1 at AlienCon last year, he speculated that the 2019 West Coast events COULD be the work of a group of oligarchs who pooled their money together. In other words, not too different than your NGO or 3rd-party hypothesis.

"Or, what one of my contacts opined...

"Non-Nation State Hostile Intelligence Service.

"That was a general theory on some of the phenomenon."

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His frustration is understandable. Especially his remarks about lack of effort. Extrapolating off of that, I want to propose my own theory about that. Based solely off of our federal response (or lack thereof).

We know something is up there. We know local level LE and local fed resources are clueless and essentially on their own. There are levels even within fed orgs. Beat cop level field agents in local FBI offices can absolutely be cut off from the parent org just as easily as anyone else if need be. So why is this?

At this point, I honestly think someone with power knows what this is. And they do NOT want federal resources flying around trying to get close with, intercept, or otherwise engage these things. So they are playing dumb and stonewalling by placing it all on locals to buy time. Time to either figure something out or let America forget. So questions get asked and Big Government can shrug and dismiss it. "Talk to the people on the ground". People on the ground can't effectively do anything and refer upward. Perfect denial loop we have seen before.

It's logical in my head and from everything we have seen so far, I think actually is the simplest solution if we do not count in just sheer gross incompetence. Which of course is extremely possible as well. But wanted an alternative and keeping as few aircraft away from these things as possible for "reasons" is the next best thing that makes sense to me. Just spitballing.

No, I think you're 100% spot on. There are powers-the-be who absolutely know what these things are. Or, at least know with certainty what they're not. As others have said, there's ZERO chance we're just straight up unable to track these things, when we know for a fact that we can track damn near anything from anywhere. That's a massive part of what we do. So those in-the-know are either stalling, covering it up, or hoping this all eventually blows over.

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No, I think you're 100% spot on. There are powers-the-be who absolutely know what these things are. Or, at least know with certainty what they're not. As others have said, there's ZERO chance we're just straight up unable to track these things, when we know for a fact that we can track damn near anything from anywhere. That's a massive part of what we do. So those in-the-know are either stalling, covering it up, or hoping this all eventually blows over.

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Ha, yeah. That was mostly me just finally convincing myself of it by typing it out. On topics such as this, I usually force myself to stay as open minded as possible and not latch onto any one theory or similar as we simply don't know. But I do know our capabilities to an extent and there is nothing at this point that can account for this Keystone Kop level bit we are seeing unless it is deliberate. Which I am sure it is now.

Adult me: «It is really bad that there are unknowns flying with impunity in US airspace.
Secretly me: « A genuine mystery that even engages the MSM. Exciting» 😅 pic.twitter.com/b9fLiolcjs

— Renate🇳🇴 (@Renate_FE) December 11, 2024

The knowledge of what these drones are, or are not, is the power.
Those in the know are not going to give away their power unless they have to.

And they don't have to.......

I'm pretty much convinced that this is US stuff at this point being operated by an unacknowledged SAP. It almost feels like they are testing capabilities to avoid detection and observation from conventional means before going operational. Otherwise, there's no rational explanation for the total lack of (1) urgency and (2) response from the federal government installations in the area.

As others have stated, though, there's absolutely no way we'd risk allowing such covert tech to be filmed, malfunction, or getting shot down over highly populated areas. That's a massive, massive risk, and we spend billions upon billions every year to be able to test stuff like this away from prying eyes.

The non-governmental entity idea is very intriguing. I've always thought some level of private sector investment was probably behind at least some of the UAP/UFO phenomena.

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I'm getting lost on acronyms at this point. I've seen multiple acronyms being used to refer to drones, and now something called "ARV type technology." Just googling doesn't always provide sensible explanations, like for "ARV" which has other standard uses. My first thought for "SAP" was for the old business software, but I have no idea.

*I just had a flashback to reading Tom Clancy, with the acronyms list at the front of the book for reference.

My crazy tinfoil hat theory:
US Military sends out a secret RFP to bid out on next generation drone technology to US companies.
Some requirements. Demo long flight times test, imaging, radar avoidance,
Night time flights to occur only during set timeline. Only in specific area of US around NJ
Best product wins the bid. Cost not a factor.

That's actually one of the most sane and believable theories, honestly.

💥💥 Mystery drone emerges out of the ocean and heads towards Oyster Creek Nuclear Plant - NJ (1 hour ago)

(#UFOTwitter #UFO #UFOs #UFOSightings #UAPTwitter) pic.twitter.com/R0JzdqR3d7

— 💭 think tank (@528vibes) December 12, 2024

Belleville NJ Mayor on NBC. Confirms that his LE officers have NO authority to actually take any action against these things in the sky. If in the air, it is a federal matter and has been told that. He is adamant they need to come down and asked about intercept over sea then with coordination with Coast Guard. Was told no. Quite emphatic that the government reps he is in contact with simply will not do anything about these unknown drones.




Mine Hill Mayor also frustrated in longer segment. Watched with own eyes one just hovering a few hundred feet. Zero movement, alternating green and red lights mimicking all the commercial flight light patterns. 100% NOT a plane. Convinced this is by plan. Who's plan? Unknown but wants answers.

https://www.nbcnews.com/now/video/frustration-grows-as-fbi-investigates-unidentified-drones-in-new-jersey-226720837797

Triangle UFO/drone being chased by F16 in Ocean City, New Jersey

What is going on? pic.twitter.com/ERCl2UcAs9

— Daily UFO (@DailyUFOPosts) December 12, 2024

"I've actually been told by my own intelligence sources that we have tried and failed to bring these objects down with standard counter UAS technology."

NewsNation D.C. correspondent Joe Khalil: "If we were to actually know that these drones were from a foreign adversary, it is amazing that not one has even been attempted to be brought down."

Ross Coulthart: "I've actually been told by my own intelligence sources that we have… pic.twitter.com/iXOVoX6dW3

— UAP Juan (@planethunter56) December 12, 2024

The drones probably belong to vendors trying to get military contracts. That way the military can say, “Those are not our drones.”

We can also be certain that their lack of security concerns means they know what the drones are all about. If they DIDN’T know, they also wouldn’t… https://t.co/y1yBYCx5rb

— Scott Adams (@ScottAdamsSays) December 11, 2024

OK, this is cool and interesting. The configuration looks similar to some of the drone videos that look like aircraft. The moveable wing would explain why there seem to be different versions of UAP (swept wing vs rectangular) as well as differing size reports.

Here’s the mysterious drones flying over New Jersey!

The military X-p4!#NJDRONES pic.twitter.com/tfhFldeVRb

— James Pleickhardt (@JamesPleickhar2) December 11, 2024