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Leonard H. Stringfield
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3:15p, 7/23/24
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

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In reply to Leonard H. Stringfield • 3:56p, 7/23/24
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If you are on desktop, stop using the "Insert a link" button and start using the "insert a youtube embed" button

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In reply to redline248 • 5:01p, 7/23/24
redline248 said:
If you are on desktop, stop using the "Insert a link" button and start using the "insert a youtube embed" button

I will have to try that..never noticed the YT icon up there.
thanks and gigem

**edit..I did what you suggested on the above post and this what I was asked not to do. So, I will abide by his wishes going forward.

thanks again
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?

Farsight Institute, Atlanta, GA

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2:10p, 7/24/24
Garry Nolan, Danny Sheehan on UFO Shootdowns and More

There is data available suggesting Sheehan is correct.
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?

Farsight Institute, Atlanta, GA

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1:48p, 7/28/24
New UFO Hearing Coming THIS Year, says Anna Paulina Luna
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?

Farsight Institute, Atlanta, GA

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12:14p, 7/29/24
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I'm pretty sure I saw my first metallic sphere yesterday. Was sitting out at the pool yesterday around noon, staring up at the sky watching airplanes (we live about 10 miles away and in the flight path of the airport). All of a sudden, I see this small ball streaking across the sky. It was going 5x-6x faster (rough guess) than an airplane I normally see at 30,000+ feet that is not landing. I'm guessing it was at about 20 - 25,000 feet? Lower than the typical cruising commercial plane but still pretty high up. I track it and all of a sudden it takes a pretty dramatic right turn and then goes out of sight. Have no other explanation for what it could be than one of those metallic spheres. Didn't have the characteristics of a plane, was daylight and too low for a satellite.

Pretty wild. I was just looking at the right spot at the right time to see it streaking across the sky. Would have missed it 9 out of 10 times it was traveling so fast. Not surprised people don't encounter these often unless they are truly fixated trying to spot one and I think I was just lucky enough to see one
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In reply to Ranger222 • 3:04p, 7/29/24
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Man, that's awesome.
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3:06p, 7/29/24
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I'll believe it when I see it, but it does at least feel like Elizondo's book + the two new documentaries coming (one of them being Fox's The Program, the other related to Elizondo in some way) will hopefully cause some waves...


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Leonard H. Stringfield
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3:39p, 7/29/24
Of course Grusch was shooting straight. Catastrophic disclosure is the preferred outcome.
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?

Farsight Institute, Atlanta, GA

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In reply to TCTTS • 8:02p, 7/29/24
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I'm really looking forward to Luis' book. The chapter titles are intriguing.
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6:16p, 7/30/24
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I hadn't watched the whole segment yet, until now, but man, this is such a clear and (relatively) concise breakdown of what went down, re: the UAP Act, and now what presumably is about to happen, with all kinds of added context throughout. The excerpt is roughly 22 minutes long, and I highly recommend watching when you get the chance. If you click on the YouTube link, Coulthart already has it queued up to the 1:40 mark, and the discussion basically goes until the end...

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6:44p, 7/30/24
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Disclosure is both inevitable and obscure for reasons articulated by rich patent man and former NASA analyst Tim Taylor …. in books American Cosmic and Encounters.

The entities occasionally interacting in our understanding of the physical universe sometimes want to be seen and sometimes don't. By their DNA, some human "receivers" interact, but most of even that small slice of humanity won't.
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In reply to TCTTS • 8:09a, 7/31/24
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TCTTS said:
I hadn't watched the whole segment yet, until now, but man, this is such a clear and (relatively) concise breakdown of what went down, re: the UAP Act, and now what presumably is about to happen, with all kinds of added context throughout. The excerpt is roughly 22 minutes long, and I highly recommend watching when you get the chance. If you click on the YouTube link, Coulthart already has it queued up to the 1:40 mark, and the discussion basically goes until the end...

This was well worth the watch. The excerpt is only about 20 minutes. I've said before that the current revelations aren't about individual witnesses with grainy jumpy videos of things that look weird. The important thing to realize is that our senior government officials are openly acknowledging that UFOs are a real phenomenon with national security and societal impacts. This isn't science fiction anymore.
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11:30a, 7/31/24
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I googled what the UK has said in recent years about UAP, and while I didn't find much, here are some things I think are interesting.
There is a former official who worked the "UFO desk" in the 90s who has claimed research was stifled due to religious concerns

The peak of ufo sightings was when The X Files was on TV

In '23 the Minister of Defense said this to parliament
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However, we regard threats as having to exist in the first place and to be substantiated by evidence because we need to know what we are addressing and how best we can address it. We are of course aware of the US assessment. The MoD has no plans to conduct its own report into UAP because, in over 50 years, no such reporting indicated the existence of any military threat to the UK.

Apparently they shut down the ufo desk in about 2009 and put all the docs in the national archives. Though, I read that a lot of stuff from the 40s or 50s had been destroyed.
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11:38a, 7/31/24
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Moving over to France, I found this interview with the director of their uap group

https://thedebrief.org/the-new-director-of-geipan-frances-official-uap-investigative-office-discusses-science-and-the-study-of-aerial-mysteries/

They talked about Grusch's testimony on retrieval programs. The guy said this
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Yes, I've done it in the past, on material that had been found at an observation scene and we didn't demonstrate any extraordinary origin. We're currently working on an expert report on material found during an observation reported to us by the SIGMA 2 association of 3AF, with which we're trying to work with the CNES expert laboratory, which is developing a whole range of analysis and expert report techniques that enable us to go back quite a long way to the origin, both elementary and chemical, of what we can see. A priori, we haven't found any signature that would lead us to think that it came from somewhere else.

It looks like this French group has been publicly releasing data on UAP for longer than the US, and claims only about 3% of events are unidentified. I haven't found anything yet to suggest whether the French are concerned about airspace. Well, the interview I linked has a brief discussion about pilots who might be worried about what they see.
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2:02p, 8/2/24
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Just posting this here cause it's interesting, not sharing an opinion either way if this is legit. Just saw this floating around X.



ETA: some are saying it's a balloon associated with a Brazilian festival, but alleged Brazilians are coming in asking what festival haha. So who knows.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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In reply to BenFiasco14 • 2:06p, 8/2/24
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thanks for that. interesting indeed
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Leonard H. Stringfield
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In reply to Redstone • 2:08p, 8/2/24
Indeed. Why haven't they just landed on the White House lawn? Easy....they have chosen not to.
They did however do a DC flyover in 1952.
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?

Farsight Institute, Atlanta, GA

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In reply to BenFiasco14 • 2:12p, 8/2/24
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Looks like a kite/balloon.
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Leonard H. Stringfield
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In reply to redline248 • 2:13p, 8/2/24
I've often wondered if the Nuremberg incident in 1561 resulted in any material recovered.
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?

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In reply to BenFiasco14 • 3:20p, 8/2/24
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Super interesting. Thanks for posting.
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5:05p, 8/2/24
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Got four hours to spare?

I've watched this over the past couple days (on 1.25x speed, to try and bring the runtime down a bit), and it's honestly one of the best interviews I've ever listened to on the subject of "aliens," philosophy, and religion.

This Jason Jorjani guy, who I'd never heard of before, is next level (he's a philosophy professor/author), has led an incredibly interesting life, and is very matter-of-fact/no-nonsense throughout. That said, he definitely gets into some out there theories, yet somehow manages to make it all sound perfectly sane/reasonable. Not that I'm completely bought in or anything, but it's all undeniably thought provoking.

I originally started around the 1:20 (hour twenty) mark (with the "Paranormal Science" section) and listened 'till the end, skipping all the stuff about him being part of a coup in Iran (for real). But then I went back and listened to all of that as well, and every bit of it is worth it...

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In reply to TCTTS • 6:03p, 8/2/24
Well we do know what they evidently told President Carter after he pressed the issue.
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?

Farsight Institute, Atlanta, GA

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In reply to TCTTS • 8:05p, 8/2/24
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F it, it's a Friday night and the wife's out of town. Time to fire up an mmo, get stoned, and go down this rabbit hole.

ETA after I finish George Knapps latest episode of coast
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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In reply to BenFiasco14 • 8:16p, 8/2/24
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Seriously, though, while there's some reverse engineering talk (maybe five to ten minutes worth, about the 1933 crash in Italy, the Nazis, and Grusch) in the first 1:20, just to reiterate, the rest is all Jorjani's personal history, politics, him talking about a smear campaign against him, and the almost-attempted Iran coup. It's all interesting as hell, but if you really want the goods (the alien/paranormal/philosophy/religion stuff), that starts around 1:20 mark and lasts the rest of the interview.
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8:23p, 8/2/24
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He's an Alt-Right pagan figure, very bright but an Iranian Zoroaster-mysticism admirer….

which I'm sympathetic to, given the lamentable influence of Islam on a world class civilization of antiquity, and its considerable overlap with Catholicism.

This matters here because from that perspective he's in harmony with Hynek / Michael Heiser / Tyler & James of American Cosmic and Encounters, ie Tim Taylor and Garry Nolan -

"high strangeness" of an inter-dimensional mostly non-material reality of significant impact for those "attuned" to it
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12:58p, 8/4/24
The Current State of the UFO Disclosure Amendment
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?

Farsight Institute, Atlanta, GA

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In reply to Redstone • 6:17p, 8/4/24
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What's your take on Tim Alberino?
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In reply to donkeykick90 • 6:33p, 8/4/24
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Sympathetic in that he's an intelligent and genuine seeker, but apotheotheism doesn't fit the framework (Apostolic - Catholic / Orthodox) of metaphysics and mysticism I converted to, with an accompanying human anthropology. (Main mystical guide: Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich visions, Angelico Press)

In the Protestant context, I like Heiser and Kenneth Gentry (preterism) quite a bit because they understand ancient languages close to textual origination.

My views summary here:
- https://texags.com/forums/15/topics/3382956
- https://texags.com/forums/15/topics/3166505
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6:40p, 8/4/24
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Meaning, pantheism and a pantheon of "gods" is compatible with Apostolic Christianity in a narrow sense:
The telos of life is theosis to Logos, there is a personal creator deity, and many lesser "gods" (ie the princes of Daniel 10), some of which are trickster.

My personal opinion is the above, PLUS other materialistic creations in other aspects of space, some accept Logos and some reject, similar to what Howard Storm reported in his book about his NDE.
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In reply to donkeykick90 • 6:53p, 8/4/24
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I'm with Redstone in that Alberino is "an intelligent and genuine seeker" (well put)... but he also seems incredibly full of himself at times. There's just something about the way he talks in interviews that sometimes rubs me the wrong way, in that he A) clearly likes to hear himself talk, and B) often assumes his subjective beliefs to be objectively right. That might be unfair to say, and probably isn't always the case, it's just my general impression. That said, I appreciate his efforts, and he *is* ultimately one of the more sane voices in the field.
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In reply to Redstone • 8:19p, 8/4/24
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thank you for the links, the effort expended, and the references.
I have already read Heiser, just ordered Storm
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In reply to TCTTS • 11:00p, 8/4/24
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Thanks so much for your responses and you too Redstone. I was given his book "Birthright" by a friend. Read it all through. Very compelling case of the elder race and possible civalization prior to Adam and Eve with biblical support. Some of its stretched like Rehab being mars and how there was this massive battle long ago. His hermeneutics are okay but I'm not expert.

I agree when I hear him speak there's an arrogance to him.
I highly recommend listening to Blurry Creatures podcast where the talk about UAPs, aliens, nephilim, megaliths, other types of creatures from a biblical perspective. They've featured Heiser, Alberino, Joel Mudamalle, some ex UFO govt folks. Fun podcast with 80s vibes. I don't believe everything but it's a damn fun listen!

One of the hosts is Luke Rodger's, brother of Aaron Rodger's (NFL QB) and Jordan Rogders (SEC media guy)
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11:00p, 8/4/24
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I don't contribute much but I love this thread. Thanks to all who have posted and shared. One of the many reasons I love Texags.
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