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Leonard H. Stringfield
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Short, informative interview of Dr. Greer today
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

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Dude is a proven hack. He should be forever ignored.
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Redstone said:

Nolan is honest, a serious scientist, and an experiencer. So being "tuned in" if that exists is noteworthy here.


What is an experiencer?
Leonard H. Stringfield
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I believe this is a person who has reoccurring personal contact with non-human intelligences.

"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?

Farsight Institute, Atlanta, GA

Redstone
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1. Greer is a proven fraud (Jimmy Akin Mysterious World episode on him, multiple instances of proven fraud) PLEASE don't clutter thread with his trash
2. An experiencer, as Nolan stated, is recurring contact with unexplainable phenomenon, especially of great impact to you not observable by others
Leonard H. Stringfield
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Ah yes...

Did you ever contact his group?

It is sorta neat to see what he has espoused for years coming to fruition.

I did contact his group, got the answers I needed... so I'm going to state he is not a hack. And as you, will continue to state that.

Regardless, your thoughts on the interview?
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?

Farsight Institute, Atlanta, GA

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It can also be a one-time experience. Nolan has talked multiple times about seeing a UFO above a forest he was walking through as a kid on his paper route, which he's said had a big impact him. I don't think he's had other experiences outside of that, but I could be wrong.
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No one wants Greer trash in this thread - a sentiment that has been expressed countless times here - nor am I going to give him the time of day. I don't care what "answers" you've gotten from his "group," he's a PROVEN huckster and a fraud.
Leonard H. Stringfield
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Now that we all around campfire now, what do we think about this Kirkpatrick character?
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?

Farsight Institute, Atlanta, GA

Leonard H. Stringfield
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Dang, you really got burr under the saddle. He is not a hack..

We can both state what we believe to be true and still continue the dialogue.

At least I would hope so..
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

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Greer is a liar and fraud. Seriously please keep him off the thread.

Nolan was a central part of Encounters and American Cosmic. He's had about 5 serious experiences, including telepathic communication.
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Prediction: (TL;DR) We are going to make an extremly high number of technological advancements and scientific discoveries in the next few years. This is all part of Disclosure, but to add plausible deniability, and a tactic by some to avoid having to give the public a true "full disclosure"
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Private industry - aerospace, energy, material sciences, etc - will frame them as a normal progression, and take credit for them. These will start with the ones we fully understand, and will get progressively more "supernatural"

Science - The science will follow Industry, as the patents are released, and new tech announced. Scientists who are "in the know" will claim these discoveries are new.
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The reality, as many of us will know, is that these advancements are reverse engineered technologies from some "Other" intelligence, and we have had them for decades. The companies making these discoveries were gifted government contracts to reverse engineer tech for military applications. The scientific community has been kept largely in the dark.
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These private companies and the US Government want to get ahead of the curve with "Disclosure" so that they have plausible deniability with regards to favoritism for government contracts, as well as questions on missing $$$, which has been moved around through small programs that go "defunct" to end the paper trail, as well as the use of "shell companies". International banking has a big role in funding these programs as well.
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Good stuff…
Leonard H. Stringfield
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Again, Greer is not a hack...fraud etc. based on what I was told, not something I read. Just to be clear. In time, I think you will come realize this. The pushback against someone that has devoted so much to exposing and resolving this issue is odd at best. I can safely say that without his efforts, none of this disclosure process would be taking place. Your attempts at trying control what folks can read is troubling. I'd like to think we are all mature enough to choose whether to click on a link or not. I honestly think his information is on point, regardless of what you think of him personally. Hell, George Washington smoked pot...It's not that difficult guys.

PS..I think it would be to the benefit of us if you guys would view the video. For a hack, the guy is in the middle of some intense stuff going on behind the scenes with multiple gov officials, defense contractor whistleblowers and who knows who else. He knows and speaks with Grusch. He was the one Michael Herrera contacted with his story. No doubt many others have as well. We need more "hacks" like this..


What are our thoughts on Kirkpatrick?

"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?

Farsight Institute, Atlanta, GA

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So you, of all people, were told some kind of top secret info about Greer - by his own people - that you conveniently can't share? And this info - which, again, comes from his own people - just so happened to magically convince you that he's the real deal? When it's been proven, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that he's a liar?

How do you not realize how dubious/nuts that sounds?

This, coming from the same person who refuses to question Farsight YouTube videos and endlessly peddled them here as serious evidence.

Yes, in the '90s and early '00s, Greer was once considered legit, and ran in the same circles as many of the field's more trusted names. He was even instrumental in helping the Wilson/Davis memo come to be, a document that is considered one of the most important in all of ufology.

But since that time, EVERY SINGLE ONE of those prominent/trusted names has distanced themselves from Greer, in blatant fashion. No one even remotely reputable wants anything to do with him anymore, because of how far off the deep end he went, and how obvious it is to everyone but you that he went full snake oil salesman.

As for you posting about him here, this isn't one of those "everyone should make up their minds for themselves" situations, because the reality of the situation - the reality you refuse to admit - is that he is inarguably corrupt. Greer is simply poison for any kind of serious discussion, in that he does nothing but muddy the waters and give ammo to anyone looking to discredit the subject. It's akin to sharing Q-Anon bullsh*t over and over again, and then acting incredulous when people don't want to be associated with it.

For the umpteenth time, as someone who is clearly so passionate about this subject, it's never not amazing how hellbent you are on giving it the worst reputation possible, willfully and stubbornly embracing every cliche of a gullible ufo nut.
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Leonard H. Stringfield
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Yes, I contacted his group and got the true story as relayed here before. Again, I believe what he has and continues to contribute is awesome. It's as important an item as any we have ever dealt with. As a species. Who else in this field do you guys have this much disdain for? Not that it matters that greatly....just curious. You get way to worked up over this Greer thing I think. And I don't post anything via him to trigger you. I honestly think he has some really good information to pass along. From all accounts he very tied in with this process and is very much in a position to know. I would simply contact his group and ask the questions that you need answers for. I did.

What do we think about Sean Kirkpatrick?
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

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Farsight Institute, Atlanta, GA

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What is your rationale for why every last reputable expert in the field has distanced themselves from Greer? And not subtly so, but in no uncertain terms, spelling out exactly why they refuse to engage with him anymore. How do you square that? Nolan, Elizondo, Mellon, Coulthart, Dolan - heck, even Corbell - along with countless others. They've ALL publicly condemned the guy. Not a single one thinks "he has some really good information to pass along." In fact, their opinion is the exact opposite, on numerous occasions warning against giving the guy even an ounce of sunlight. How can you be a believer in the subject, and listen to/endorse so much of what these people bring to the table, yet go against them on one of the things they seem to agree on the most? I'm not saying that we should always take everything every one of them says as gospel. But on this? The jury isn't out. They've delivered their verdict time and again and it's unanimous. Not even factoring in the provable lies Greer has told that we can objectively discern for ourselves.
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This important subject needs credible, non-grifting people to be highlighted.
Not frauds with indisputable evidence against them.
Please stop with the Greer posting.
https://sqpn.com/2022/02/steven-greer-summoning-aliens-cseti-ce5/
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I don't want this to be taken as a typical "eye roll," but I am amused at the mention of black helicopters. Like that gives added weight to the clandestine nature of things.
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TCTTS said:

Prediction: (TL;DR) We are going to make an extremly high number of technological advancements and scientific discoveries in the next few years. This is all part of Disclosure, but to add plausible deniability, and a tactic by some to avoid having to give the public a true "full disclosure"
My prediction: For the foreseeable future, almost all remarkable manmade technological advancements and scientific discoveries will be labled by some as alien technologies.
Leonard H. Stringfield
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Sean Kirkpatrick is the shady one IMO. Keep a close eye out on that one.
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?

Farsight Institute, Atlanta, GA

Leonard H. Stringfield
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UFO News Round-Ross Coulthart

From one of the more plugged in media folks.
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

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Farsight Institute, Atlanta, GA

Leonard H. Stringfield
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UFO News Round-up Sean Kirkpatrick, James Fox and more..

Not sure who this guy is, but in times when the scraps of info are hard to come by.

Article mentioned on Sean is check-out line magazine material..
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

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whose coming with me?

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Have they? I specifically remember a few years ago Dolan being asked about him and he refused to condemn him and even credited him for some of his sources and getting certain documents (or something) released from the government. I've seen Tim Burchett appear on shows with him, and has backed up what Greer has been claiming lately (by this I only mean that Greer has stated that he has been communicating with the gov't on where these black sites are operating and who is involved, not on whether his intel is actually accurate). I am definitely not a fan and never seek out his content, but will listen to him on occasion; definitely with a huge grain of salt.
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At a minimum it's better to filter possibilities, opinions, facts through a place like News Nation that has something to lose by being shady, as opposed to those with a business model.
(I believe Greer is both a dishonest grifter - details in the pod I posted above - and a person with legit sources)
Leonard H. Stringfield
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tread carefully here....
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?

Farsight Institute, Atlanta, GA

Leonard H. Stringfield
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Hey Red..what was the gist of the pod you mention?
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?

Farsight Institute, Atlanta, GA

Redstone
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That he's indisputably been caught lying and faking encounters on multiple occasions - major reasons why he's been repeatedly denounced by the actually credible, which has been detailed here, and why many posters hope Greer's garbage is kept off this thread, which has been repeatedly requested.
Leonard H. Stringfield
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I'm only aware of one incident that actually turned out to be false concerning him according to the person I contacted. A flare deal or something. I'd love to know what all else? Are there any others in this "field" you have reservations about? I'd love to get Richard Dolan's take on Greer.

thanks

edit: so I posted your response in full regarding your take on Greer on the Dolan site. Will report back on the responses.

Regardless, we will honor the wishes of the other posters.
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

Are A&M's core values..optional? Who has the POWER to determine that? Are certain departments exempt? Why?

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Mr President Elect said:

Have they? I specifically remember a few years ago Dolan being asked about him and he refused to condemn him and even credited him for some of his sources and getting certain documents (or something) released from the government. I've seen Tim Burchett appear on shows with him, and has backed up what Greer has been claiming lately (by this I only mean that Greer has stated that he has been communicating with the gov't on where these black sites are operating and who is involved, not on whether his intel is actually accurate). I am definitely not a fan and never seek out his content, but will listen to him on occasion; definitely with a huge grain of salt.


As one example, Dolan has spoken many times about how, essentially, he can't stand Greer's ridiculous claim that he knows for a fact all NHI are non-hostile. I'm on my phone, and I'm sure there are better links out there, but here's one quick example of Dolan's comments in this regard…

https://www.bitchute.com/video/vNV9t817ioK1/
Leonard H. Stringfield
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Yes, this is one item I don't believe is true as well. Way too much evidence to the contrary especially the data collected by Farsight. His notion that all of these animal mutilations are the result of some deep black gov program does not add up either IMO. Especially when one considers that some of these events evidently occurred in the distant past.

What do we think about his efforts to disclose this issue? Is he a Doty-like disinfo agent?
"Roswell, 1947, there was a uap (ufo) that crashed, in fact there were 2 uaps, 1 crashed and one flew away and the other one did not and was recovered by the US GOVERNMENT."
- Lue Elizondo-former director of the Pentagon's Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program-August 20, 2024

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Farsight Institute, Atlanta, GA

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If his claims run counter to so much of your data, why do you insist on pushing him so much on here?

As for what I think of him, like with everything else on here, I have no idea. Ever since I saw Sirius or whatever (which was the first I heard of him) I've avoided him at all cost. I have been a little surprised not to hear him condemned more by the more respected figures in the ufo community, but maybe that has changed as of late (will watch the TCCTS video after the game). His grift seems so over the top and ridiculous that it makes me question if maybe he is more legit than I give him credit for (dumb reason, I know). At the end of the day, I think he has a little bit of legit info and extracts maximum value out of that while mixing in a ton of BS. I also think he pays the media a lot to feature him as much as possible. So yes, I think he is a disinformation spreader.

Funny you mention dotty, I hadn't heard of him until someone on x posted his long interview (coming clean) and didn't realize it was Greer interviewing him.
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