Redstones alien fleeing the scene

Holy moly..

Every story involving giant aliens hanging out at the Miami mall and being arrested by city cops, or giant aliens in someone's backyard in Las Vegas, or jetpack aliens attacking people in Peru, etc., does 10 thousand times more damage to this whole topic than any army of skeptics could ever do.

In any "normal" UFO sighting skeptics asking "where are all the good photos and videos of these events?" are mocked because "iPhones don't take good photos from miles away, you silly idiot!" But when 10-foot aliens are shopping at the mall in a crowd we're being asked to believe that every image from thousands of people was confiscated instantly before one person posted to social media. How can you guys blame people for their perception of this topic?

Even though many of you here are also laughing it off all you have to do is go look at YouTube or social media and see that this kind of stuff is the face of this UFO talk. Any normal person who hears about panic over 10-foot aliens at the mall in one clip and then hears Grusch talk about alien ships recovered by the Pope and interdimensional alien bodies being held in some government vault in another clip is going to laugh all of it off equally.

It's an extreme version of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. Every time this type of nonsense happens the burden of proof for anything real goes even higher.

Aliens are blurry

And that's the problem
We have out of focus extra terrestrials roaming the countryside

That's extra scary to me

Joes said:

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Holy moly..

Every story involving giant aliens hanging out at the Miami mall and being arrested by city cops, or giant aliens in someone's backyard in Las Vegas, or jetpack aliens attacking people in Peru, etc., does 10 thousand times more damage to this whole topic than any army of skeptics could ever do.

In any "normal" UFO sighting skeptics asking "where are all the good photos and videos of these events?" are mocked because "iPhones don't take good photos from miles away, you silly idiot!" But when 10-foot aliens are shopping at the mall in a crowd we're being asked to believe that every image from thousands of people was confiscated instantly before one person posted to social media. How can you guys blame people for their perception of this topic?

Even though many of you here are also laughing it off all you have to do is go look at YouTube or social media and see that this kind of stuff is the face of this UFO talk. Any normal person who hears about panic over 10-foot aliens at the mall in one clip and then hears Grusch talk about alien ships recovered by the Pope and interdimensional alien bodies being held in some government vault in another clip is going to laugh all of it off equally.

It's an extreme version of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. Every time this type of nonsense happens the burden of proof for anything real goes even higher.

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It's not like the ufo community gets to dictate what is the "face" of UFO talk. Yes, crazy stories get picked up by social media and show up on your feed, but it's not like the true face of the ufo community gets to dictate any of that. Most of the ufo community hates Ashton and the whole MH370 thing. I haven't really seen anything from the primary voices in the ufo community on this Miami Mall incident either.

Most of us "believers" on this thread aren't trying to convince anyone that this stuff is real, we are only here to share and discuss information as it comes out. The burden of proof for these claims should be really high, no matter how much nonsense comes out muddying the waters.

Joes said:

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Holy moly..

Every story involving giant aliens hanging out at the Miami mall and being arrested by city cops, or giant aliens in someone's backyard in Las Vegas, or jetpack aliens attacking people in Peru, etc., does 10 thousand times more damage to this whole topic than any army of skeptics could ever do.

In any "normal" UFO sighting skeptics asking "where are all the good photos and videos of these events?" are mocked because "iPhones don't take good photos from miles away, you silly idiot!" But when 10-foot aliens are shopping at the mall in a crowd we're being asked to believe that every image from thousands of people was confiscated instantly before one person posted to social media. How can you guys blame people for their perception of this topic?

Even though many of you here are also laughing it off all you have to do is go look at YouTube or social media and see that this kind of stuff is the face of this UFO talk. Any normal person who hears about panic over 10-foot aliens at the mall in one clip and then hears Grusch talk about alien ships recovered by the Pope and interdimensional alien bodies being held in some government vault in another clip is going to laugh all of it off equally.

It's an extreme version of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. Every time this type of nonsense happens the burden of proof for anything real goes even higher.

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One or two people in a rural area, either not being able to get their phones out in time, or the object being so far off in the night sky that it ends up being blurry, is perfectly believable. Hundreds of people in a mall, with multiple, ten-foot-tall aliens apparently walking among them, and yet not a single decent pic or video, is not. There is a vast difference between the two instances, and you know this.

The same goes for mall aliens and Grusch. Have a number of people already written off Grusch as crazy? Sure. But any person with half a brain, who spends just five minutes looking into either topic, realizes the credibility chasm between the two.

For a non-believer, it remains so incredibly weird how "concerned" you are about all of this, especially in how the subject is perceived by the public.

TCTTS said:

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Joes said:

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Holy moly..

Every story involving giant aliens hanging out at the Miami mall and being arrested by city cops, or giant aliens in someone's backyard in Las Vegas, or jetpack aliens attacking people in Peru, etc., does 10 thousand times more damage to this whole topic than any army of skeptics could ever do.

In any "normal" UFO sighting skeptics asking "where are all the good photos and videos of these events?" are mocked because "iPhones don't take good photos from miles away, you silly idiot!" But when 10-foot aliens are shopping at the mall in a crowd we're being asked to believe that every image from thousands of people was confiscated instantly before one person posted to social media. How can you guys blame people for their perception of this topic?

Even though many of you here are also laughing it off all you have to do is go look at YouTube or social media and see that this kind of stuff is the face of this UFO talk. Any normal person who hears about panic over 10-foot aliens at the mall in one clip and then hears Grusch talk about alien ships recovered by the Pope and interdimensional alien bodies being held in some government vault in another clip is going to laugh all of it off equally.

It's an extreme version of The Boy Who Cried Wolf. Every time this type of nonsense happens the burden of proof for anything real goes even higher.

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One or two people in a rural area, either not being able to get their phones out in time, or the object being so far off in the night sky that it ends up being blurry, is perfectly believable. Hundreds of people in a mall, with multiple, ten-foot-tall aliens apparently walking among them, and yet not a single decent pic or video, is not. There is a vast difference between the two instances, and you know this.

The same goes for mall aliens and Grusch. Have a number of people already written off Grusch as crazy? Sure. But any person with half a brain, who spends just five minutes looking into either topic, realizes the credibility chasm between the two.

For a non-believer, it remains so incredibly weird how "concerned" you are about all of this, especially in how the subject is perceived by the public.

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I can literally feel you seething in this post.

redline248 said:

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I wonder what a country gains by beating the US to "disclosure?"

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Chaos is a ladder. If there is something earth-shaking to be disclosed, wouldn't our government prefer to control the means and message? For example, consider the point that Coulthart made recently about lawsuits being filed for a variety of reasons if it becomes clear that the government and private companies like Lockheed Martin have deliberately lied for years. All the whistleblower cases suddenly become proven and compensation for damages would be owed. Lockheed Martin and other owners of literally priceless UAP artifacts could be sued by shareholders for not disclosing company assets that would surely have affected stock values. And all of it coming out in an election year, to boot. "Chaos" would indeed be an appropriate term.

fake fake fake

TCTTS said:

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Care to expand on why you believe so? I'm not saying it's real, but it at least comes from a somewhat trusted source + military officials who have apparently corroborated it.

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For starters it looks like it belongs in a transformers movie

TCTTS said:

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For the record, I'm not the biggest Corbel fan, but I at least believe that HE believes the things he purports are real/true. He might very well be misled from time to time, and definitely gets off on the "fame" aspect, but I don't think he's ever actively attempting to mislead anyone himself.

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This is it for me. "I'm told it did this, I corroborated it with a witness..." He seems very easy to convince because he wants it to be real. This thing was allegedly tracked by this weapons platform all the way over the water, but all we see is 8 secs repeating over and over.

Now, is it possible TMZ or whoever has more footage? I guess so. But it's easy to fake a few seconds and then tell someone whatever else you want them to believe it did than fake 17 minutes.