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That's the best part.
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Holy sh*t. The coordinates match.
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redline248 said:

Who is Ashton and why is he treated like an expert? When I did a quick look around, /aliens on reddit is kind of split on whether or not he's full of sh-t

one guy said he's a healthcare IT worker
Anyone in healthcare IT who likes martinis with huge olives is OK in my book. Hell, he might be me from an alternate dimension.
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Latest from Ashton:



Basically, he claims that he's in contact with the person who sent him a zip file containing the 5 images he displayed during his live stream yesterday. (Link posted above by TCTTS.) He's trying to get the actual videos and the pdf document in the images.

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A bit more...

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Worth reading for everyone, skeptics especially. You want a quick, fact-based recap? Here you go.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/dec/13/us-government-ufo-transparency-bill-uaps

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Some took Grusch's testimony very seriously, others viewed him as a crackpot, still others in between. Since it would take a lot more words than this column to litigate his myriad extraordinary claims, let's forget about him for a moment and focus on what we do know for a fact about the general subject of unidentified flying objects.

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On one hand, yes, the five images would be super easy to fabricate. For me, though, it's about the information contained within them, and how convincing that info is. But even still, admittedly, that info as well could be faked. As with everything in this case, it comes down to the absolutely insane lengths one would have to go to research all of the info, and then present it in such convincing fashion, as to pull off a hoax of this magnitude, that is starting to be just as unbelievable as the prospect of the videos being real.
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Offers a nice, level-headed perspective.
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Ha, Ashton can be such a vindictive dork, to the point where I almost hope this is one giant Rick Roll, if/when he finally opens the files.That said, the suspense is pretty insane, now that he finally has them...
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NSIAP:

CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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TCTTS said:

Ha, Ashton can be such a vindictive dork, to the point where I almost hope this is one giant Rick Roll, if/when he finally opens the files.That said, the suspense is pretty insane, now that he finally has them...
Haha, that would be funny. I always root for a good conspiracy, but at the same time his whole demeanor about everything being "verified as true" is a bit annoying.
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https://www.youtube.com/live/N7Exhk7Pz68?si=kOSCyxi-uBEc5Si_

Supposed livestream of disclosure…
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TCTTS said:



"UFO craft and bodies on the floor of the Senate".

Now we're getting somewhere.
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TCTTS said:


Tucker's interview with Grusch was the best I've seen. Highly recommended.
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Second that. Also can't wait for Coast to coast tonight haha.
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I think Carlson gave the better interview, and comes across as far more invested, but I think the Rogen interview gave us a deeper, more comprehensive summary of events from Grusch.

Either way, after having watched both now...

A) In these more informal settings, Grusch comes across as EXTREMELY credible, knowledgable, and thorough. Just endlessly impressive, and definitely not lying. That, and I'm more moved than ever by his decision to come forward, and what he's had to sacrifice in the process. Especially in the Rogen interview, I genuinely felt for the guy. I also just want to hang out, have a beer, and shoot the sh*t with him, which is maybe the best compliment I can give.

B) This isn't a psyop. At this point, given Grusch's testimony/credibility, given all the other players, the sheer number of officials now taking action/coming forward, the Disclosure Act, all the info that's starting to line up, and basically everything else that's happened over the past six years, if not the past century... we're dealing with a real phenomenon here. It's just not a question for me at all anymore, to the point where the skeptic's argument is the one feeling increasingly untethered from reality/in denial. Again, at this point, to believe that this is all just some big psyop or lie or foreign tech is to believe in a conspiracy on the level and complexity of the UAP coverup itself.
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This is from a couple of days ago, but I'm surprised it didn't get posted here. I do hate the "I've heard terrifying things but I am not going to say what they are" approach. Like, are you just overreacting, or is it something truly crazy? I understand they have family who watch, so if they don't want to discuss it with them, it wouldn't make sense to do so on their shows. But still...

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No question large aspects of this are spiritual.

I'll again recommend the videos of Jerry Marzinsky (YouTube and his name .com) - a once secular psychologist with rock solid evidence, built over decades of clinical practice, mostly with paranoid schizophrenia treatment, of invasive "entities" (not only fallen angels)
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Below is every dark/disturbing theory I've ever heard regarding this subject, so whatever they're talking about, it likely comes from this list. Also, just to be crystal clear, I'm NOT saying I believe a single word of any of this (except likely the first one). I'm simply passing along every batsh*t and not-so-batsh*t theory out there, as to cover all the bases...

- Our government/government contractors have murdered employees/officials/citizens to maintain the coverup. At the very least, our government/government contractors have ruined lives/careers, and have engaged in highly disturbing intimidation tactics.

- NHI have killed human beings. Granted, I've never heard of any outright, unprovoked malevolent killings, but there *are* rumors of them having taken down aircraft, and thus, killing pilots in aerial combat.

- NHI have also reportedly, at times, been indifferent to human health and suffering. Be it due to, say, radiation exposure from a craft, or the psychological trauma from apparent abductions. Granted, people have reported highly positive interactions with NHI as well, and some say they've even been healed by them.

- Speaking of abductions, one rumor has our government having made a deal with NHI that "allows" them to abduct citizens in exchange for NHI technology.

- If real, the most popular/reported theory as to the purpose of abductions is to create a hybrid race that may one day replace humans.

- NHI can not only mentally control humans, they can make us see things that aren't there.

- NHI aren't just "aliens," but also the demons, witches, goblins, ghosts, etc of lore. Basically, they're ancient, inter-dimensional entities that have taken on the form of whatever our perceptions/imaginations/fears were at the time.

- Whatever the hell is going on at Skinwalker Ranch (and in other "hotspots" across the world) possibly involves malevolent beats and orbs that can move between dimensions, and have caused physical harm to humans. Bigfoot is said to be one of these creatures.

- NHI are the original advanced species of this planet, and went underground/in the oceans around 11,500 years ago, after most life was wiped out in a global cataclysmic event (possibly a meteor).

- NHI either created humanity or manipulated our genes at some point early in our development.

- NHI not only created humanity, but created our universe/reality itself, and occupy a higher dimension outside of our space and time, from which they can manipulate us/reality. Further, their craft are simply the means through which they enter/navigate our three-dimensional space, and the typical, four-foot-tall gray aliens are nothing more than either their biological drones or avatars.

- Upon death, NHI harvest our "souls"/consciousness for some unknown purpose. To the point where "moving toward the light" in the wake of our death is thought to be a trap.

Again, most of this is like something out of a bad sci-fi novel, but it covers everything I've ever heard.

Whatever the truth is, it's important to remember that A) despite potentially being here longer than we have, after thousands of years they haven't wiped us out yet, B) again, people report all kinds of positive experiences/intentions as well, and C) according to Grusch (and many others), we're not just dealing with one species/point of origin, which means we're not just dealing with one objective/intent.
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Most on your list, I don't think are "too disturbing" unless you couple them with taking over our planet and civilization in the not-to-distant future. The last one on the other hand, sounds outlandish, but I do think that would be the most disturbing of all the outcomes, possibly.
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Quote:

- Our government/government contractors have murdered employees/officials/citizens to maintain the coverup. At the very least, our government/government contractors have ruined lives/careers, and have engaged in highly disturbing intimidation tactics.


There is probably zero doubt about this. They've done all that, and recently, for far lesser subjects.
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Great consolidation post, thanks for taking the time
TCTTS
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No problem.
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Any updates on Ashton? I'm sure he has the original files unlocked by now. Anybody donating money to this truth seeker?
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Ha, I literally just checked, and they're still trying to crack the password. Anything from straight up guessing, to what sounds like a few hundred people running all kinds of advanced, cloud-based decryption techniques.
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Mr President Elect said:

Most on your list, I don't think are "too disturbing" unless you couple them with taking over our planet and civilization in the not-to-distant future. The last one on the other hand, sounds outlandish, but I do think that would be the most disturbing of all the outcomes, possibly.

Yeah, the last one is the only one that would truly freak me out. All the others, I could more or less live with/accept. Heck, even a total take-over/invasion, I think in the end I'd ultimately be like, "Sure, whatever." I've lived a fun life and been fortunate enough to have good friends/family, and if all they can do is kill me, fine. It's the "afterlife" meddling that would mess me up.
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The most disturbing to me would be that they created us and are manipulated at their whims.

That's the true one I think they could "shake the earth to its core" because it calls into question so many things. All monotheistic religion. Free will. The origin of consciousness. Lots of those huge heavy hitting questions.
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