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redline248 said:

I'm not talking about your stupid videos. Get over yourself
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Of anything.

Do you expect people to watch that video and go "yup, that's aliens," or "oh, I was wrong those aren't aliens?"

Perhaps you were referring to another video...sorry if that wasn't clear to me.


I also am curious why you term them "stupid"?


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"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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I will admit, I found the one on Peru interesting
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Joes said:

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When does CNN jump into the fray? What are the big-time media outlets afraid of?
What are they afraid of? You saw Gillibrand and her audience openly laugh when she repeated Grusch's claims of alien ships and bodies, that's what you can expect from most people at this point. I'm not saying they should or shouldn't have done that but at this point no one in the mainstream press is going to touch this until something concrete is shown. It's been 80 years of The Boy Who Cried Wolf so far.

Maybe there is something to all this and it will come out, but like I've pointed out before, why don't you look where this thread is on this forum. Go look at the football board, when a new thread is started there they'll have 100 or more replies within an hour, this thread is crickets in comparison, that should tell you where this lies on everyday people's priorities for now.

I don't doubt your overall point, but this is such a weird point of comparison. The football board inherently sees infinitely more traffic than this board. As far as entertainment threads go, though, 84K+ views, 1786 replies, and 52 pages of discussion since mid April is pretty damn impressive, and shows quite a bit of interest in the subject. That this thread is seeing more engagement than ever, four months in, tells you how much interest people have in the subject.

Not to mention, UAP articles in the The New York Times, on CNN, etc, are consistently the highest viewed - of *all* articles - for those outlets, while Congressional aides have recently said that no hearings have come close in terms of public interest/demand than the UAP hearings. Hell, News Nation's primetime coverage of UAPs has even beat out CNN in the ratings. And sure, CNNs ratings have been in the toilet for a while now, but for a fledgling news station that hardly anyone has to beat out freaking CNN, which everyone and their dog subscribes to, is pretty shocking no matter how you slice it.

If anything, when treated seriously, and not like fodder for Ancient Aliens or some of the crazier stuff Aztec posts, this subject absolutely brings the eyeballs.
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Mr President Elect said:

Joes said:

Mr President Elect said:

redline248 said:

Well, all I will say for now is that no one is going to be convinced by that first video.

By the way, the full tweet mentions there is audio, but I didn't hear any. Anyone have audio?


Says it was removed for privacy


It's still playing for me just fine.


Audio


Gotcha, sorry, I misunderstood.
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TCTTS said:

Joes said:

Aztec1948 said:

TCTTS said:



When does CNN jump into the fray? What are the big-time media outlets afraid of?
What are they afraid of? You saw Gillibrand and her audience openly laugh when she repeated Grusch's claims of alien ships and bodies, that's what you can expect from most people at this point. I'm not saying they should or shouldn't have done that but at this point no one in the mainstream press is going to touch this until something concrete is shown. It's been 80 years of The Boy Who Cried Wolf so far.

Maybe there is something to all this and it will come out, but like I've pointed out before, why don't you look where this thread is on this forum. Go look at the football board, when a new thread is started there they'll have 100 or more replies within an hour, this thread is crickets in comparison, that should tell you where this lies on everyday people's priorities for now.

I don't doubt your overall point, but this is such a weird point of comparison. The football board inherently sees infinitely more traffic than this board. As far as entertainment threads go, though, 84K+ views, 1786 replies, and 52 pages of discussion since mid April is pretty damn impressive, and shows quite a bit of interest in the subject. That this thread is seeing more engagement than ever, four months in, tells you how much interest people have in the subject.

Not to mention, UAP articles in the The New York Times, on CNN, etc, are consistently the highest viewed - of *all* articles - for those outlets, while Congressional aides have recently said that no hearings have come close in terms of public interest/demand than the UAP hearings.

If anything, when treated seriously, and not like fodder for Ancient Aliens or some of the crazier stuff Aztec posts, this subject absolutely brings the eyeballs.


Ok, my point was solely that as a mainstream topic more people are still following other stuff. This potentially could be the biggest thing ever, but it's simply not right now as far as mainstream news and such. That's all I meant.
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Trailer for Farsight's latest remote viewing project: The Disclosure War

Using a techique developed by our CIA and Stanford Research Institute for military espionage purposes.

If you want to some real data regarding what is taking place associated with disclosure...this is it.
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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There's no denying recruiting has been down a bit since we got Grusch. I'm hearing a few more dominoes will fall once we get our next commit. Everyone's just waiting to see where a few key pieces decide to go. Should generate more National buzz and people will take notice
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No one is watching this Farsight stuff. And if they are, they aren't taking it seriously.

Plus, that Skeletor-looking dude is creepy as hell.

Why do you keep insisting on posting these?
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TCTTS said:

No one is watching this Farsight stuff. And if they are, they aren't taking it seriously.

Plus, that Skeletor-looking dude is creepy as hell.

Why do you keep insisting on posting these?


Dude is either Redstone committed to his troll or so open minded to anything ET related that his brain has fallen out. Either way there's no way to win by engaging him.
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TCTTS said:

No one is watching this Farsight stuff. And if they are, they aren't taking it seriously.

Plus, that Skeletor-looking dude is creepy as hell.

Why do you keep insisting on posting these?
Because I'm convinced there is something very legit about the technique. 4 years ago, very few people gave the et reality notion any band width here on TexAgs. Times change; people change. Often they simply wake up..

Did you watch the documentary:




Simply delivering the memo...can't read it for you.

Others may find it interesting. Chill...
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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I wonder if he would have been better off not posting the video and just sticking with the testimony only. Video doesn't really advance things. He should post the original version and an enhanced version if available that better shows objects.
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I give Staff full permission to verify with anyone:
never been banned (except once, reversed in a day) and never had a sock. Ever.
I've posted very consistently for 20 years, including lots of informed speculation about aliens.

Spyder is a true believer, as am I in a Christian context, but I do agree with my newfound friend TNNCS that its overkill here.

Let's stick to military / contractor testimony and close adjacent for videos, IMO.

Also, and related, the huge block quotes are annoying to scroll.

Why not just reply direct?
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Well I say let them post whatever they want. It's all propaganda and disinformation, but this is the thread where that stuff belongs…
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aggiephoenix02 said:

Well I say let them post whatever they want. It's all propaganda and disinformation, but this is the thread where that stuff belongs…
I posted the link to the documentary simply to give people an idea what remote viewing is all about. Farsight is a research group out of Atlanta, GA that has adopted the military version of remote viewing and modified it. Improved on it. They had as one of their projects the MH370 crash. I see no data collected for that project suggesting et was involved.

Their project involving the origin of covid not only showed it was created in a lab, but that there was an accident that led to its eventual dispersion. VERY interesting stuff. Just one of many including the Roswell vehicle crash.
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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Y'all are all aliens to me…
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It's the entertainment board. He can post and say what he wants. I'm entertained…
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aggiephoenix02 said:

Y'all are all aliens to me…
Its gonna be ok.
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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Redstone said:

my newfound friend TNNCS

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  • "When Rich was asked how UFO propulsion worked, he said, 'Let me ask you. How does ESP work?' The questioner responded with 'All points in time and space are connected?' Rich then said, 'That's how it works!' "- Ben Rich, former director of Lockeed Martins Skunk Works

We will get there eventually with remote viewing simply being a byproduct.

**The origin of the Great Pyramid was also a target by Farsight. Data showed that et was very much involved as were we.



"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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Wait, I thought you were TNNCS?!?
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redline248 said:

Guys it's filmed at night from the cockpit of a commercial jet on a smartphone. It looks dark. I suggest watching it in a dark room with no lights on. You'll see the silhouettes of clouds.

The object in question is the appearing and disappearing circular light. The photos (in a follow up tweet) don't do anything for me, personally.

There is some familiar light blinking that is probably the other jet mentioned in the tweet.




I just did that…rewatched in a dark room with my phone brightness max. You see faint clouds and a blinking light far in the distance….that's it. Was hoping for more.
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Just can't take Far Sight or Steven Greer seriously at all. The videos are laughably bad and not credible at all

And again, Third Eye Spies sounds like a porno
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Ghost of Bisbee said:

Just can't take Far Sight or Steven Greer seriously at all. The videos are laughably bad and not credible at all

And again, Third Eye Spies sounds like a porno
Perhaps, but did you watch it?

Why do you not take them seriously?
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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I entertained your Far Sight video

15 seconds from the start and already "Dislosure" was misspelled in the title graphic and the Skeletor creep started speaking robotically

I wouldn't be surprised if they were trolls themselves

and nope, not watching something that sounds like an 80s porno
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Ghost of Bisbee said:

I entertained your Far Sight video

15 seconds from the start and already "Dislosure" was misspelled in the title graphic and the Skeletor creep started speaking robotically

I wouldn't be surprised if they were trolls themselves

and nope, not watching something that sounds like an 80s porno


hang in there..
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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Aztec1948 said:

Ghost of Bisbee said:

Just can't take Far Sight or Steven Greer seriously at all. The videos are laughably bad and not credible at all

And again, Third Eye Spies sounds like a porno
Perhaps, but did you watch it?

Why do you not take them seriously?


I'm a very longtime lurker (hold the honor of being a first page respondee on the main F16 Spydie thread) and generally a "believer". Or at least not a non believer.

For me, remote viewing is reliant on metaphysics of which we have pretty much zero actual connection to. All of the physical stuff we can at least analyze and take a factual data approach to. Even stuff as contentious as the airliner video. Believe in it? Don't believe in it? Ok cool. Let's slow down the footage and examine it from all angles and known technological viewpoints. Let's have a discussion on it based on something we can all at least understand. Physics and technology.

You cannot do this for remote viewing. There is no basis in the physical world that everyone can orient their minds onto. There is no physical constraints given by our understanding of the workings of the universe to date to ground a discussion on. It is literally still in the realm of "trust me, bro".
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Eliminatus said:

Aztec1948 said:

Ghost of Bisbee said:

Just can't take Far Sight or Steven Greer seriously at all. The videos are laughably bad and not credible at all

And again, Third Eye Spies sounds like a porno
Perhaps, but did you watch it?

Why do you not take them seriously?


I'm a very longtime lurker (hold the honor of being a first page respondee on the main F16 Spydie thread) and generally a "believer". Or at least not a non believer.

For me, remote viewing is reliant on metaphysics of which we have pretty much zero actual connection to. All of the physical stuff we can at least analyze and take a factual data approach to. Even stuff as contentious as the airliner video. Believe in it? Don't believe in it? Ok cool. Let's slow down the footage and examine it from all angles and known technological viewpoints. Let's have a discussion on it based on something we can all at least understand. Physics and technology.

You cannot do this for remote viewing. There is no basis in the physical world that everyone can orient their minds onto. There is no physical constraints given by our understanding of the workings of the universe to date to ground a discussion on. It is literally still in the realm of "trust me, bro".
We ALL have a connection to the reality simple because we are human. We ALL have psychic abilities etc. to one degree or another. You may not even notice that though. Deja vu..."I felt like someone was watching me"...all that is something psychic. Do we completely understand it...hardly. I compare it to humans trying to understand electricity or atomic structure thousands of years ago. But it most certainly exists. The data proves this and will continue to be proven. Again, for anyone wanting to know more about it, the documentary "3rd Eye Spies is an excellent start.

One of the main goals at Farsight per it's director, Dr. Courtney Brown is to collect as much valid data as possible on as many historical events, people etc. to "prove" its "real". We all live in a nuts and bolts world, but this phenomenon operates beyond that. Because it's hard to quantify, reproduce etc. doesn't mean it isn't valid. Just viewing their projects I'm well beyond convinced. Just like the et reality. It's uncanny how 3 different viewers are only given a set of random produced numbers..ex: R5U-M78 and each viewer describes pretty much the same event etc. This is known as being blind to the target. No interaction between the viewers. The CIA certain thought there was/is something to it as well as intelligence communities in other countries I would imagine. Watch the video..it goes into all this in spades.

I came across another RV summary involving the MH 370 event:

"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon

“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
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And it's very lack of quantification is what makes it hard for so many to even discuss it seriously. You keep asserting to "data" but it doesn't exist in any form that in acceptable to the masses as such. Even UAPs we can point at video, photos, instrumentation readings, even observance of surrounding environments. We obviously don't all agree about the validity of that stuff but it is something we can ALL at least grasp and examine. Even if it is to debunk. RV is just circumstantial, anecdotal, and ultimately entirely human experience oriented.

I am about as open minded as one can be on most of this stuff. I truly believe that. But the state of RV discussion currently, without actual real data, is inherently personal belief only. We need more. The scale of the "proof" you are talking about is just not there for me. A few people saying similar things happened is not enough for me. Maybe if there were thousands of remote viewers open to the public, internationally spread and a healthy mix of government and private ALL coming to same conclusions on particular things. Perhaps then we can all sit down and seriously say, "there is something to this". We aren't there though. And this is coming from someone who is actually a fairly firm believer in paranormal events. I will never say RV is impossible. I don't know. I am just saying it is going to take more than a few (frankly) fringe YouTube videos to push me off the fence in that direction.

This is a relatively tiny sub topic though in this whole thread so not going to go much deeper on it.
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Agree! Remote Viewing is not "data"
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https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/15vizx1/the_plane_video_has_vfx_elements_used_for_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1

In case anyone still thinks that video is real
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This is certainly the first real piece of evidence that finally points toward VFX. That said, once you start reading the comments, and see all the questions being brought up about the uploader's account, how hard it would be to find that exact asset, its upload date, etc, I wouldn't say this is 100% debunked quite yet. Closer for sure, but I'll give it another day or so to see where it lands.
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There were multiple comments I saw providing confirmation that that asset was from the 90s.
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Right. On a physical CD. And not uploaded to the internet until January 2023. Which means, if the video is fake, whoever made it in 2014 had to also own that same physical CD. And then whoever this debunker is had to have randomly come across that exact, obscure, uploaded asset, on that one random site, since the asset itself isn't Googlable. Which tells me the debunker is potentially the creator of the video, decided to leave a breadcrumb, and is f/cking with everyone now. In other words, all I'm saying is, there's still something fishy going on, seeing as it's highly improbable that this random new reddit account just randomly happened to find this needle-in-a-haystack asset.
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To be crystal clear, something along these lines is what I was waiting for, in terms of it being debunked. Whenever things like this have been debunked in the past, it's often due to some Googlable image element that someone IDs via reverse image search, everyone agrees it's a hoax, and that's that.

The difference here, however, is that this element apparently isn't Googlable, was apparently even in a zip file, and apparently originated from a physical CD from 1998. So the chances of this dude randomly happening to come across an exact match are pretty astronomical. Not impossible, of course, but it's not quite the same as how this usually goes down. Which potentially points to shenanigans of some sort, which makes me want to hit pause, just for a second, to see where this goes.
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