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Agristotle
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It happens. Nancy Pelosi has been married for years
Redstone
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Rumsfeld on Sept 10 2001 was talking about missing trillions

Much of which is under our feet

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According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it's stored on dozens of different technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible.
TCTTS
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This is one of the craziest mainstream media news clips I've ever seen. In terms of the content, claims, and the way it's being treated completely serious, with zero snickering of any kind, no cheesy X-Files music, etc. I mean that as a compliment, btw. Imagine trying to explain this to someone ten years ago...

Bird Poo
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TCTTS said:

This is one of the craziest mainstream media news clips I've ever seen. In terms of the content, claims, and the way it's being treated completely serious, with zero snickering of any kind, no cheesy X-Files music, etc. I mean that as a compliment, btw. Imagine trying to explain this to someone ten years ago...




Do you believe this stuff?

I quit fox 10 years ago and it looks like they haven't changed a bit.
Redstone
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You mean the replaying of clips from a major deep state scientist, a congressman, and a very plugged in documentarian?

How about you tell us specifically what was objectionable?
Bird Poo
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Redstone said:

You mean the replaying of clips from a major deep state scientist, a congressman, and a very plugged in documentarian?

How about you tell us specifically what was objectionable?


Space lizards. Space lizards are objectionable.

Keep on clicking though. They want your attention.
TCTTS
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Good for you.

Instead of your drive-by bull****, if you actually read my posts from earlier today/yesterday, you'd see where I stand on this report, re: my belief/skepticism.
Redstone
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When the president takes the podium, and absolutely call me out if that doesn't happen before Jan 2029 -

you detractors will be here, correct? I definitely will be.
Bird Poo
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We've now graduated from amateur hoaxes to government hoaxes.

Pretty stupid aliens if they traveled hundreds of thousands of light years to crash and die.

It's just too much. I feel silly even responding to these posts.
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Redstone said:

When the president takes the podium, and absolutely call me out if that doesn't happen before Jan 2029 -

you detractors will be here, correct? I definitely will be.


I'll be here. You'll take him at his word, right?

TCTTS
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Trust me, we feel way dumber responding to your mocking, mind-numbing posts.
Bird Poo
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TCTTS said:

Trust me, we feel way dumber responding to your mocking, mind-numbing posts.


This makes me feel so good! Maybe I'm a lizard person, Hollywood.
TCTTS
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Good one.
Redstone
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The content and context of the announcement, combined with other announcements, we can analyze together - how about that?

This is happening, in real time, right before our eyes, and your content-free mocking….lets see how it holds up.
TCTTS
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Bird Poo
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Redstone said:

The content and context of the announcement, combined with other announcements, we can analyze together - how about that?

This is happening, in real time, right before our eyes, and your content-free mocking….lets see how it holds up.


That's cool. It's happening before our eyes.

Are you familiar with Russia Russia Russia, Iraq weapons of mass destruction, MK Ultra, etc?

Redstone
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Feel free to PM if it's off topic. This is a content and analysis heavy thread.

Hopefully you'll stop cluttering it with inanity and very annoying block quoting.
TKEAg04
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Bird Poo said:

Redstone said:

The content and context of the announcement, combined with other announcements, we can analyze together - how about that?

This is happening, in real time, right before our eyes, and your content-free mocking….lets see how it holds up.


That's cool. It's happening before our eyes.

Are you familiar with Russia Russia Russia, Iraq weapons of mass destruction, MK Ultra, etc?



FFS get bent.
Houston Lee
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Bird Poo said:

Redstone said:

You mean the replaying of clips from a major deep state scientist, a congressman, and a very plugged in documentarian?

How about you tell us specifically what was objectionable?


Space lizards. Space lizards are objectionable.

Keep on clicking though. They want your attention.Keep looking at the nice pictures on the cave wall.

Bird Poo, go ahead and keep looking at the captivating pictures on the cave wall.
tk for tu juan
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Pretty sure Wemby is either the mantis or lizard in disguise
redline248
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I am so sick of the "too scared to talk" excuse as everyone under the sun is talking about this ****
watty
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redline248 said:

I am so sick of the "too scared to talk" excuse as everyone under the sun is talking about this ****


I almost made a similar post today. Don't try to convince me it's dangerous to talk when people are literally going on Rogan and other podcasts and news shows and talking about it constantly. There are plenty of other interesting arguments and points to make, but that isn't one of them.
Redstone
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Kirn hosts talks in MT and is sourced

Houston Lee
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What is it about humans that makes other biologics want to breed with us?
Redstone
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Go to Timothy Alberino YouTube and watch his recent long interview with the brothers. They don't talk a lot about it, and are genuinely emotional IMO…my notion here is both "genetic health" and the grave evil that T.A. book Birthright speculates
AgBQ-00
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the saying is it's undefeated. maybe that applies in interstellar or extra dimensional terms as well
God loves you so much He'll meet you where you are. He also loves you too much to allow to stay where you are.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
Redstone
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And please look in my recent post history for the "Fortean" points, which he also details on his channel. The people that detail the abductions / extractions have been remarkably consistent in their testimonies, for decades. John Mack was almost driven out of Harvard for simply taking the consistencies across time and environment (began nearly a century ago) seriously.

If you assume lying or psy op, which is justifiable, a large body of testimonies has to be reckoned with.
Redstone
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Christians, Scripture states at least one large category for nonhuman extraterrestrial beings: angels and the heavenly host. Alberino states,
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Rather than convey an anthropocentric perspective of the universe, the Scriptures unequivocally convey a Christocentric, Christ-centricperspective. In fact, Christo-centrism is a doctrinal pillar of the New Testament. The apostles of Jesus Christ were adamant in portraying Him not only as the center but the very source of the universe and the reason for which it was created.
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From the Christocentric perspective we may disassociate the creation of the universe with the creation of mankind, as man was not its purpose. This perspective opens up a whole new panorama of pre-Adamic history and allows us to contemplate a scenario in which mankind is a latecomer to the stage in the theater of the universe and a secondary character in the story of creation is a story that was not written for us, but for Christ.

The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but those things which are revealed belong to us and to our children forever.
Deuteronomy 29:29

For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
Colossians 1:16-17

It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honor of kings is to search out a matter.
Proverbs 25:2
TKEAg04
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Redstone said:


Christians, Scripture states at least one large category for nonhuman extraterrestrial beings: angels and the heavenly host. Alberino states,
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Rather than convey an anthropocentric perspective of the universe, the Scriptures unequivocally convey a Christocentric, Christ-centricperspective. In fact, Christo-centrism is a doctrinal pillar of the New Testament. The apostles of Jesus Christ were adamant in portraying Him not only as the center but the very source of the universe and the reason for which it was created.
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From the Christocentric perspective we may disassociate the creation of the universe with the creation of mankind, as man was not its purpose. This perspective opens up a whole new panorama of pre-Adamic history and allows us to contemplate a scenario in which mankind is a latecomer to the stage in the theater of the universe and a secondary character in the story of creation is a story that was not written for us, but for Christ.

The secret things belong to the Lord our God, but those things which are revealed belong to us and to our children forever.
Deuteronomy 29:29

For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together.
Colossians 1:16-17

It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honor of kings is to search out a matter.
Proverbs 25:2

Amen to that.
watty
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The idea that mankind was not the whole point of God's creation is not remotely supported by Scripture. We are very much unique and intentionally made in his image and we're the entire point of creation. Can't go with you on where you are trying to go there.

Edit to add: I'm not saying that the Bible therefore prohibits belief in NHI. It doesn't. But the grounds on which a Christian believes or does not believe in any sort of NHI need to be based on a sound understanding of what the story of the Bible is (and is not).
Redstone
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An anthropocentric reading that Scripture is not at all grounded in Christian history, and while we could trade verses all night, a "scriptural" case would be weak.

According to Psalm 8, we're lower than angels, and then also commissioned to rule, subdue, fill the earth + Gen. 1:26-27: "Then God said, 'Let us make man in our image, after our likeness. And let them have dominion…"

And, of course, our type of hominid is recent, less than 100,000 years old, mixed with Neanderthal except for some sub-Saharan developments (yes, look it up)

Psalm 19 has the entire heavens declaring the glory of God, who could certainly create in His image anywhere, EVEN AS the Logos of John 1 appeared in many times and many places, such as walking with Adam and a burning bush.

By Christian theology, we are special in that Jesus was fully human, AND a much "wider" view is assumed.
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TCTTS said:




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Houston Lee said:

What is it about humans that makes other biologics want to breed with us?


One interesting theory is that we're conscious and they're not. "The grays," at least, might be biological AI drones - highly advanced "computers" meshed with grown meat sacks. Some theories say they're made by / work for some other more advanced species. Another theory, though, says they could be the biological AI remnants of an extinct civilization. Just like we're creating AI now, except, say, in a thousand years we die off, the AI survives, then grows spacefaring bodies for itself. Something along those lines, that already happened to some other civilization long ago, light years away. Then the AI found us and discovered we're conscious, just like the civilization who made them.

If so, what if our consciousness/soul is what connects us to higher realms, other dimensions, quantum states, the afterlife, etc? And what if a lack of consciousness/soul leaves one "trapped" in this material world? As crazy as that sounds, if it were true, one could imagine this biological AI race wanting to try and "breed" consciousness into future generations of hybrids.

Granted, there are likely endless potential holes in that theory, and I'm not saying I at all believe it. It's just one I've found very thought provoking.

Otherwise, my guess is some alien/inter-dimensional race either created us, or is responsible for shaping humanity's early evolution via DNA manipulation. In either scenario, they're simply keeping tabs on their creations, running tests/experiments on us, some of which could involve breeding.
TCTTS
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It sounds to me like you worship scripture/dogma over a limitless God / higher power.

If only because a strict, literal adherence to "scripture" is so incredibly hard to defend, seeing as the bible isn't a single book dropped from heaven. It's a collection of texts written, copied, translated, selected, debated, and canonized by human beings over centuries. The Gospels, for example, were obviously written decades after Jesus's death, not as live transcripts. They reflect memory, oral tradition, theology, certain community needs, and interpretation.

The canon itself wasn't obvious or instant either. There were countless early Christian writings, but only some were eventually declared authoritative. In fact, the New Testament was decided through a process in the 4th century in which a group of bishops literally voted on which texts would be considered "the word of God." From the Old Testament to the New, the process of canonization was long and historically contingent, not a simple matter of one universally agreed list from the beginning, from the heavens.

Then Translation adds a whole other layer. "Scripture" moved through Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, Latin, and then into modern languages. Not to mention, manuscripts also differ. Hell, we don't even possess the original biblical manuscripts, only later copies, and those copies contain textual variants. In short, the bible is the greatest game of "telephone" ever played.

None of this means that the bible is worthless or untrue, of course. But it does mean "the exact words of God" is a MUCH more complicated claim than Christians are often willing to admit. I'm all for scripture being treated as spiritually, morally, and historically significant, without pretending it's some kind of perfectly preserved, context-free rulebook. A humble reading makes more sense than a rigid one, if only because the text itself came to us through very human hands - writers, editors, translators, councils, scribes, and power-seeking rulers/institutions - over an incredibly long period of time.

In other words, it seems insane to me to so strictly box oneself into something so… fallible. There's beauty and inspiration there, sure. But worshipping it as rulebook or the only way in which the universe can be seen and interpreted has always felt so weird and gross to me.
Redstone
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You've identified the central question here, which is:

What is the "word of God?" A collection of texts codified over 3 centuries? Or, the more scriptural view…(and I do believe the Bible is holy)

The Logos, dynamic and moving in history, is the literal Word of God. (Christian holy texts are not like the Koran, supposedly straight from God to man)

Therefore, given it is the glory of God to conceal, even many "important" matters such as alien life, are presented to us with silence - possibly so that we might center ourselves upon the creator.
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