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The general does not seem like a crime victim.

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Lazar back on Rogan today. Start off by talking about the new film and he claims it is exactly like what he experienced.
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Can't wait!

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... while the new doc is out now. Watching this weekend...

https://www.primevideo.com/detail/S4-The-Bob-Lazar-Story/0HAZANZUFKJ8U9FBKAI8QR0KWU

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Quote:

"The hair of this being was red. The skin was pale white."

"It had six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot."

"The pallet was 9 feet long and he's in the fetal position, so they estimated his size at 10 to 12 feet tall."

"This thing was solid as a rock. It was like a brick. Just solid muscle."

Tim Alberino recounts a US soldier describing the body of a 12ft being they loaded onto a C-130 out of Afghanistan.

Episode with Tim Alberino out now for members. Public release tomorrow.

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The Giant of Kandahar?
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Multiplication Rock was getting us prepared all along.

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Yes. One of the operators mother reached out to him, then Alberino and a veteran friend met with him, verifying credentials and hearing story. It's believe me bro, and yet Alberino has about a dozen veterans talking like that to him and Rep. Burlison is a believer.
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People really need to watch the Alberino video I posted just above. This is tied directly to the mystery schools, which Manly Hall did admit is warmed over Phoenician ritual.

I personally believe the conclusion Alberino came to after finding similarities in Peru and Sardinia - the bones and artifacts are considered by the highest level occultists as essential, and it's a small, worldwide network.
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This means, specifically, that Lucifer / Prometheus / Zeus was correct to bring knowledge and lights of outer-inner illumination, so that man might become God, and dormant abilities unlocked. (Inversion of : telos of life is theosis to Logos)

Such objects mean:
allegorical turns via the physical - including sacrificial trauma (inversion of Sacrament) into real power…. soul trials, cyclical regeneration, inner mysteries unlocked in ever-advancing ritual, via "life of" blood (inversion).
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A tight 5....hours
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Whaddya know? Chris Bledsoe's prophecy turned out to be complete bull****, so now he's changing the date. A tale as old as time. And there will still be people who back this guy...


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Andy's interview this week with Darcy Weir was a good one. Unfortunately, there are a lot of grifters in the UFOlogy space. The discussion about Chris Bledsoe is 55 minutes in, but the whole interview is really informative.



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He has to be "backed" in that noteworthy people were investigating him, but not in that New Agey pagan-ism stuff possesses deception….especially when dates are involved, and even if the experiences occurred (I think his did). Dates "work" retroactively, and even then it tends to be layered with meaning. Such as 70 AD, when the prediction about the Temple being decimated came true, AND it was "apocalyptic" for one way of life, very relevant for many others.

This tricker entity should have been tested following 1 John 4:1.
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Lazar is vindicated



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A tight 5....hours


No. No they didn't. Please summarize the 5 hours so we don't have to waste our time only to find out, again, that there's no 'there' there.
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NoahAg said:

Teddy Perkins said:

A tight 5....hours


No. No they didn't. Please summarize the 5 hours so we don't have to waste our time only to find out, again, that there's no 'there' there.

ffs go away and stop posting if you aren't going to contribute anything other than, "LOLZ NOTHINGBURGER!!!1"
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I mean to be fair, it should be called out when absolute nonsense gets posted (which unfortunately happens a lot).
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watty said:

I mean to be fair, it should be called out when absolute nonsense gets posted (which unfortunately happens a lot).
Mods have removed videos that are posted with minimal or no descriptions about the content. That's a pretty easy standard to meet. I think it's reasonable to ask for a synopsis of a five hour video claiming to provide proof of the capture of a giant with polydactyly. What is the nature of the proof that requires a five hour investment of time to watch a video with paid promotions? That's a fair question.

ETA sorry watty, that was a reply for TKE.
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Synopsis is:
Fallen / cosmic entities can and do interact with humans, including sexually. There is solid academic literature on this, meaning consistency of first-hand testimonies for decades.

This is recorded in the Christian canon, which should include 1 Enoch, validated by the Dead Sea scrolls. Remnants of the nephilim, broadly defined, persist.
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For physical evidence, instead of credible believe me bro, focus on incidents such as 2004 Nimitz / Fravor:

- Trans-medium travel and "seamless" movement between different environments (e.g., air to space to water)
no observable impedance, drag, or loss of performance

- Cloaking, stealth, reduced visibility to radar, infrared, or the naked eye
objects appear to "cloak" or evade detection while still being observable in certain spectra

- Hypersonic velocity
no signatures at speeds exceeding Mach 5 (hypersonic) with no sonic booms, heat signatures, vapor trails, or other expected aerodynamic effects

- Sudden and instant acceleration
near-instant changes in speed or direction, far beyond what human pilots or known aircraft could withstand

- Anti-gravity "lift" …
object overcomes Earth's gravity and hovers or moves without visible means of propulsion …. no wings, rotors, exhaust plumes, or control surfaces
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Redstone said:

For physical evidence, instead of credible believe me bro, focus on incidents such as 2004 Nimitz / Fravor:

- Trans-medium travel and "seamless" movement between different environments (e.g., air to space to water)
no observable impedance, drag, or loss of performance

- Cloaking, stealth, reduced visibility to radar, infrared, or the naked eye
objects appear to "cloak" or evade detection while still being observable in certain spectra

- Hypersonic velocity
no signatures at speeds exceeding Mach 5 (hypersonic) with no sonic booms, heat signatures, vapor trails, or other expected aerodynamic effects

- Sudden and instant acceleration
near-instant changes in speed or direction, far beyond what human pilots or known aircraft could withstand

- Anti-gravity "lift" …
object overcomes Earth's gravity and hovers or moves without visible means of propulsion …. no wings, rotors, exhaust plumes, or control surfaces
I do focus on this evidence and find the Navy pilots' testimonies to be credible. But what they saw has exactly nothing to do with 12 foot tall giants.
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Alberino is skilled at explaining how it's directly related:

the material is not all that exists, strangeness and "high strangeness" exists, cosmic entities exist, they interact with humanity, we are embodied spirits whose consciousness will endure beyond death
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Redstone said:

Alberino is skilled at explaining how it's directly related:

the material is not all that exists, strangeness and "high strangeness" exists, cosmic entities exist, they interact with humanity, we are embodied spirits whose consciousness will endure beyond death

You're missing the point. Why should we watch Alberino (or anyone else for that matter) talk for five hours about this? Are there credible photos of the captured giant? Bones? Plaster footprint casts? An interview with the giant? I suspect this is just five hours of Alberino talking about the book of Enoch, and I'm not going to waste my time if that's all there is. What's in the video?
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Redstone said:

Synopsis is:
Fallen / cosmic entities can and do interact with humans, including sexually. There is solid academic literature on this, meaning consistency of first-hand testimonies for decades.

This is recorded in the Christian canon, which should include 1 Enoch, validated by the Dead Sea scrolls. Remnants of the nephilim, broadly defined, persist.

I actually do believe that giants once roamed the earth.

Like G Martin said, I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for a summary of a 5-hour video. I've waded through enough long form interviews on aliens, abductions, and other supernatural "stuff" that in the end really didn't say anything. Always very vague retelling of 2nd or 3rd hand accounts.

In short: Who exactly saw/captured the giant?
Where'd they take it?
How many people were involved?
Most important: How is it possible they could keep such a significant conspiracy hidden?

Even Thomas asked for proof that Jesus was the resurrected Messiah.
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The Kandahar giant is a pretty well documented case within the military community. Multiple testimonies. Didn't think this was a controversial one especially with all the turn of the century articles that show all the giant bones unearthed. Even Abraham Lincoln mentioned Giants in a speech about Niagara Falls.

The video covers pretty much everything, aliens, breeding programs, giants, mystery schools, Peruvian face peelers, mars etc.

If you're familiar with Alberino and have read birthright, there won't be too much new, but he does do a great job weaving this stuff into the biblical narrative and provides lots of evidence and sources, and is really explicit what is his conjecture.


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NoahAg said:

Redstone said:

Synopsis is:
Fallen / cosmic entities can and do interact with humans, including sexually. There is solid academic literature on this, meaning consistency of first-hand testimonies for decades.

This is recorded in the Christian canon, which should include 1 Enoch, validated by the Dead Sea scrolls. Remnants of the nephilim, broadly defined, persist.

I actually do believe that giants once roamed the earth.

Like G Martin said, I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for a summary of a 5-hour video. I've waded through enough long form interviews on aliens, abductions, and other supernatural "stuff" that in the end really didn't say anything. Always very vague retelling of 2nd or 3rd hand accounts.

In short: Who exactly saw/captured the giant?
Where'd they take it?
How many people were involved?
Most important: How is it possible they could keep such a significant conspiracy hidden?

Even Thomas asked for proof that Jesus was the resurrected Messiah.

In this video, researcher and author Tim Alberino discusses a wide range of fringe topics bridging biblical history, ufology, and the occult. Alberino explores the Book of Enoch, arguing that the "Watchers" (or fallen angels) were essentially extraterrestrial beings who imparted advanced technology to humanity and bred the Nephilim (giants). He draws connections between these ancient accounts and modern phenomena, such as gray aliens, UFO crash retrievals, transhumanism, and alleged cover-ups by secret societies. The conversation heavily focuses on how these ancient entities might be currently integrating into humanity, alongside contemporary tales of giants in Afghanistan and mysterious "face peeler" attacks in the Peruvian Amazon.

The Kandahar Giant
According to a C-130 cargo pilot interviewed by Alberino, the military encountered a massive giant in Afghanistan in 2005.
Who exactly saw/captured the giant?
  • The Second Recon Team: According to the story the pilot heard, a military recon team went missing in the Kandahar region. A second team was sent to find them, only to discover the first team entirely wiped out near a cave. The second team encountered a 10-to-12-foot, red-haired, pale-skinned giant with six fingers and six toes eating one of the deceased soldiers. The second team engaged the giant, requiring a massive amount of firepower to kill it.
  • The C-130 Pilot & Crew: The pilot whom Alberino interviewed did not see the giant alive but was tasked with transporting the 1,100-pound dead body, which was brought to him on a 9-foot cargo pallet covered by a tarp.
Where'd they take it?
  • The dead giant was initially airlifted from the Kandahar region and dropped at Bagram Airfield.
  • From there, the C-130 pilot and his crew loaded the body and transferred it to a military base in Qatar.
  • The pilot heard through the grapevine that the body ultimately ended up at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio, though he could not confirm this detail.
How many people were involved? While an exact numerical headcount is not given, multiple groups were involved:
  • The first military recon team (who were all killed by the giant).
  • The second military team (who found the cave, engaged, and killed the giant).
  • The "babysitters" (believed to be Army or Air Force intelligence personnel) who met the pilot on the tarmac at Bagram to ensure secrecy.
  • The C-130 pilot and his flight crew (including the loadmaster who had to weigh the pallet).
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Quote:

Most important: How is it possible they could keep such a significant conspiracy hidden?


I personally agree with his conjecture:
They weren't kept hidden until about a century ago. Then, a fight between occultists, who desired the remains as a means of real Luciferian power, and those who opposed them, precursors of Collins Elite.

And if anyone doubts that group, read Imminent (and I agree with Gerb's criticisms, btw) BUT most important, the vice president is public he is aligned with this loosely organized group!
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G Martin 87 said:

Redstone said:

Alberino is skilled at explaining how it's directly related:

the material is not all that exists, strangeness and "high strangeness" exists, cosmic entities exist, they interact with humanity, we are embodied spirits whose consciousness will endure beyond death


You're missing the point. Why should we watch Alberino (or anyone else for that matter) talk for five hours about this? Are there credible photos of the captured giant? Bones? Plaster footprint casts? An interview with the giant? I suspect this is just five hours of Alberino talking about the book of Enoch, and I'm not going to waste my time if that's all there is. What's in the video?


No one has a gun to anyone's head forcing them to watch it, no one owes anyone here a summary of the video, and certainly no one owes the answers to the questions you're asking. As with literally every single Jesse Michels video, it opens with a two-minute trailer, which does a great job of previewing the interview to come. If after viewing the trailer the interview seems like your kind of thing, watch it. If it doesn't, don't. It's as simple as that. Either way, it was clearly posted because A) Michels' interviews seem to be a favorite of the board, and B) Alberino is frequently mentioned here as well. That's plenty of context without needing an accompanying dissertation.

All any of us are asking is that, for the millionth time, the same handful of skeptics simply refrain from being drive-by jerks. No one's asking them not to be skeptics. It's completely normal/healthy to doubt this stuff. It's just incredibly annoying when they pop in once every few weeks with their negativity, add absolutely nothing to the conversation, while pouting that no one is providing them this or that. Not to mention it's weird as hell, seeing as, personally, I can't imagine taking time out of my day to hunt down topics I'm either not interested in or don't believe in, just to **** on things other people are clearly into.
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TCTTS said:

G Martin 87 said:

Redstone said:

Alberino is skilled at explaining how it's directly related:

the material is not all that exists, strangeness and "high strangeness" exists, cosmic entities exist, they interact with humanity, we are embodied spirits whose consciousness will endure beyond death


You're missing the point. Why should we watch Alberino (or anyone else for that matter) talk for five hours about this? Are there credible photos of the captured giant? Bones? Plaster footprint casts? An interview with the giant? I suspect this is just five hours of Alberino talking about the book of Enoch, and I'm not going to waste my time if that's all there is. What's in the video?


No one has a gun to anyone's head forcing them to watch it, no one owes anyone here a summary of the video, and no certainly one owes the answers to the questions you're asking. As with literally every single Jesse Michels video, it opens with a two-minute trailer, which does a great job of previewing the interview to come. If after viewing the trailer the interview seems like your kind of thing, watch it. If it doesn't, don't. It's as simple as that. Either way, it was clearly posted because A) Michels' interviews seem to be a favorite of the board, and B) Alberino is frequently mentioned here as well. That's plenty of context without needing an accompanying dissertation.

All any of us are asking is that, for the millionth time, the same handful of skeptics simply refrain from being drive-by jerks. No one's asking them not to be skeptics. It's completely normal/healthy to doubt this stuff. It's just incredibly annoying when they pop in once every few weeks with their negativity, add absolutely nothing to the conversation, while pouting that no one is providing them this or that. Not to mention it's weird as hell, seeing as, personally, I can't imagine taking time out of my day to hunt down topics I'm either not interested in or don't believe in, just to **** on things other people are clearly into.


Bingo. None of us have concrete proof. None of us are insiders. A lot of us though have circumstantial and other experiences that have opened up a curiosity. Alberino has a lot out there trying to tie Christianity to the phenomenom. I would venture to guess he's very close to the truth.
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There is a strong consilience with Protestant, Catholic, and Orthodox if considered in this way:

- close textual analysis, especially Heiser (new version of Unseen Realm out) and Alberino (Birthright) valuing how ancient Near East authors thought of these questions (ie 1 Enoch indisputably valued)
- "planetary spirits" of Bl. Anne Catherine Emmerich - "good" and "bad" as they move up and down to earth, interact with the material world, and influence human affairs
(I'm a big believer, details are amazing, Angelico Press)
- engage with Psyop Cinema podcast for occult applications here, based on Seraphim Rose and a solid grounding in Crowley (they're anti-)

So, even if "aliens" aren't believed in, the VAST majority of Christians since 33 AD have very much believed in the extra-terrestrial
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Wow. I've participated in this thread for a long time as both a respectful skeptic and a defender of serious research into the UAP phenomenon. Hopefully your rebuke was meant for someone else. I don't feel I deserved it.
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Thank you for putting together an extremely detailed summary. More than I asked for and very much appreciated.
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