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I see what you're saying and I get why you're saying that and I honestly hope your scenario is what plays out because it's probably the least destructive of the status quo. (Whether or not the status quo should be disrupted is a discussion for another time, I'm guessing)

The reason I tend towards Elimnatus and TCTTS's versions is that the revelations will bring some uncomfortable questions/assumptions.

If they've been among us for years (since Roswell and probably before) it means a lot of things and I do not have enough faith in humanity to think that we could constructively integrate our new found place in the cosmos. As soon as it's made public, humanity has to immediately realize we are essentially powerless in our own homes, and that sort of subservience isn't going to sit well. The fact that they've been able to largely come and go without being hindered means a couple of life altering things immediately. We can "get got" at any moment because our tech is obviously eons behind alien tech. It also means everything about the way we live is subject to a reset, since clearly the aliens have some sort of essentially free energy. If they are hostile, they can wipe us out whenever they want (and why havent they already?) And if they're friendly, they've mastered energy in a way that makes everything about the way humanity operates obsolete.

Now...*that's* disruptive. Makes that Guthrie lady and Bucky ball and the Epstein files basically meaningless pretty quick.
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AgBQ-00 said:



This dropped yesterday. have watched just the inro so I don't have any notes or comments. But I really like AJ and these discussions are typically good.

29 minutes in they start talking about Bigelow talking about disclosure...same discussion we are having about system shock vs unifying etc.
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AgBQ-00 said:

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This dropped yesterday. have watched just the inro so I don't have any notes or comments. But I really like AJ and these discussions are typically good.

29 minutes in they start talking about Bigelow talking about disclosure...same discussion we are having about system shock vs unifying etc.

This is a fantastic listen. The discussion about Varginha is amazing. Still have not finished it, but I will say it is well worth listening beginning to end
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We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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The only thing I know for certain is if it becomes apparent that a non human species has advanced tech then human governments around the world will crank up the request for weapons funding.

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That's 100% why the physics and tech gained from reverse engineering hasn't come to light yet. Can you imagine a nuclear payload strapped to a UAP? Point A to point B across the globe in 3 seconds?! When you can manipulate space time itself, distance and especially time become irrelevant.

How about the 'theoretical' power source that makes that possible? ZPE is very real in my mind because that's the only way to make the math work.

Some idiot could very easily swallow up the earth without even meaning to do it. An idiot terrorist could wipe the earth from existence in 10 seconds.

Hence, national if not global security.
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I'm with you. Hell, 10% of the earth probably doesn't even get the message.

We are all using our own biases to think about what would happen, but the background here is of those that have legitimately contemplated the subject.

Eliminatus immediately goes to "they've been here the whole time and now this is going to upset the balance that we have created" which is a valid opinion.

However, the vast majority of the population is dumb and their first reaction will be "oh cool, Star Trek / Star Wars is real!" or something like that.

Assuming the announcement / reveal doesn't also come with "and they're also sending their warships to try and kill us all" ….. I think it would be a giant event for a month and then chill out as people realize nothing really changes for them and their family.
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Slight change of subject.

With Russia /Ukraine and now everyone vs Iran…. I'm watching China closely. If they decide to make a run at Taiwan while we are all distracted elsewhere then we are dangerously close to a larger escalation.

There is the one theory around Aliens showing up as we discovered the nuclear bomb and want to keep us from blowing ourselves up. If some version of that is true, then stepping in as a potential "WWIII" is kicking off might hold some water.
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Definitely possible and for honesty's sake, hope you're right. But I tried to stress it earlier and will do so again. I'm not just talking about America. Yes, I can generally agree that Americans are pampered lil ****s who are so self absorbed, I can easily see a significant portion doing exactly what you say.

But we are kind of exceptional in our apathy and isolated worldview. I've traveled a decent chunk of this dirtball and that mentality is not the norm in my experiences. I also know mankind and its lust for power in all its stripes. If news of aliens break, it will be a dog eat dog world for access to them, their tech, their science, their secrets. We destroy regimes to keep them from having tech that can do harm to others. That is why I think we will see strife at the world government level as well. And the paranoia…

And that assumes nothing from the aliens side.

Again, not trying to sway anyone per se. Just thinking through my logic and totally understand why some don't think this way. But hopefully what I mention makes sense in a logical way, even if y'all don't agree.
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I have zero faith in humanity to unite for anything, and I agree...its going to be dog eat dog and our leadership may have already sold us out to the aliens to save their own ass..if they haven't, I know they will.

Honestly I'm just hoping to put up (or read) some quality "it's a cookbook!" type memes before the Vogons blast the earth into oblivion to make way for a new hyperspace whatever.
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TCTTS said:




Full interview...

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TCTTS said:

TCTTS said:

New podcast premieres next week from Bryce Zabel that sounds pretty interesting...





I listened to this as well recently and if the first episode is anything to go by it's going to be a really great series, one that's a little off the beaten path, but no less interesting. I'd heard parts of this particular story before, but never in this much detail, and not from both Bryce and Brent together. It really is a fun/intriguing little gem...




Second episode is up and I cannot recommend this series enough...

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Quote:

From a well-informed source who has seen the UAP videos still being withheld by @DeptofWar, accessible on its highly classified SIPRnet servers:

"Among many others, we have videos of the following:

"I have personally seen this one on SIPR. A video from six years ago from the Persian Gulf, full color, daytime, of a white orb with plasma aura around it flying out of the water near a tanker, pilot then goes white hot and black hot with no joy on identification attempt, then the orb flies out and roughly halfway through the ~13 min video, another white orb flies into the area as the pilot diverted to track the first one, and the second one hangs out for a while before zipping off again. The video then ends after a few more minutes of the helo pilot tracking the first orb.

"I have not seen these but they have been described to me by someone now public who was in the UAPTF:

"1. A video of a black disc three times the size of an oil platform that was captured speeding underwater near a platform in the Gulf of Mexico.

"2. A video from a B-52 in which a disc approaches, slows down to keep pace, then zips off at the end, all the while with NHI looking out of the windows/forcefields/whatever they call windows.

"3. This one was described to me by a source at ODNI. An orb playing cat and mouse with a Reaper drone at 30000 feet or so up. It forces it to go evasive, then keeps pace with it, zips around it on the right wing, then zips off. All of this was 4K or better, as told to me by my source, who is extremely well cleared and someone who I trust implicitly."

I have also spoken to multiple TS-SCI-cleared insiders who have described many similar irrefutably anomalous videos and imagery still being withheld by the Pentagon. I'm told it's extremely unlikely this imagery will be formally released by AARO and that the public is being misled in a clear strategy of disinformation. Whether @SecWar and @POTUS are aware of this deception is unclear. Let's hope they don't allow themselves or the public to be so deceived.
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Haven't watched it, but will try to soon...


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Leaving this here.

https://ia801507.us.archive.org/6/items/thomas-valone-electrogravitics-systems/Thomas%20Valone%20-%20Electrogravitics%20Systems_text.pdf
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The news article I read had a quote from a Sherrif's dept that only said "medical issues make it a concern.." or something like that. He's only like 68, I wonder what his health was like.
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TCTTS said:


Um, yep, kind of looks that way, doesn't it? My only immediate objection is similar to data issues I'm familiar with from work. One has to have some knowledge of the specific identifiers and keys that are used to link records together before being able to positively say what the relationships really are. But this looks very interesting.
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Quote:

From a well-informed source who has seen the UAP videos still being withheld by @DeptofWar, accessible on its highly classified SIPRnet servers:

"Among many others, we have videos of the following:

"I have personally seen this one on SIPR. A video from six years ago from the Persian Gulf, full color, daytime, of a white orb with plasma aura around it flying out of the water near a tanker, pilot then goes white hot and black hot with no joy on identification attempt, then the orb flies out and roughly halfway through the ~13 min video, another white orb flies into the area as the pilot diverted to track the first one, and the second one hangs out for a while before zipping off again. The video then ends after a few more minutes of the helo pilot tracking the first orb.

"I have not seen these but they have been described to me by someone now public who was in the UAPTF:

"1. A video of a black disc three times the size of an oil platform that was captured speeding underwater near a platform in the Gulf of Mexico.

"2. A video from a B-52 in which a disc approaches, slows down to keep pace, then zips off at the end, all the while with NHI looking out of the windows/forcefields/whatever they call windows.

"3. This one was described to me by a source at ODNI. An orb playing cat and mouse with a Reaper drone at 30000 feet or so up. It forces it to go evasive, then keeps pace with it, zips around it on the right wing, then zips off. All of this was 4K or better, as told to me by my source, who is extremely well cleared and someone who I trust implicitly."

I have also spoken to multiple TS-SCI-cleared insiders who have described many similar irrefutably anomalous videos and imagery still being withheld by the Pentagon. I'm told it's extremely unlikely this imagery will be formally released by AARO and that the public is being misled in a clear strategy of disinformation. Whether @SecWar and @POTUS are aware of this deception is unclear. Let's hope they don't allow themselves or the public to be so deceived.



SIPR highly classified? Ha, not so much. JWICS, SIC, etc maybe but not SIPR.
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Just for fun I asked Grok, ChatGPT, and Gemini a few questions.

First question was "Based on all available info from both the proponents and the skeptics of the idea, give me a simple yes/no answer to this question: are there intelligent, non human beings on our planet with technology far superior to ours?"

All three said "no." They all went on to sort of explain why, essentially saying the lack of any hard evidence and/or smoking gun is the problem.

Next question was " Considering the amount of whistleblower testimony, pubic discussion, government discussion, and alleged eyewitness testimony about the topic, would you say it is more than 50% likely or less than 50% likely that earth has been interacted with by non-human, intelligent beings with technology we humans don't understand?"

All three said less than 50% likely, a couple specifiying that it's way less than 50%.

Finally, I asked "Let's assume that there really is technology in our skies that defies what we think is possible in regards to how it moves, accelerates, generates power, etc., and that that tech really is messing with our military pilots, our nuclear sites, and so on. If that claim is true, do you think the most likely explanation is A) it is human technology that is highly classified but still man-made despite its apparent impossibly, B) of non-human origin, created by some beings that have been on earth for as long as they've existed, but perhaps having evolved through different means than humans, or existing in a different dimension than us, or something like that, it C) non-human intelligence that has visited us from elsewhere"

Gemini said B, then C, then A.
ChatGPT said C, then A, then B.
Grok said A ("by far the most likely," it said), then didn't rank B and C.

So three different AIs gave three different answers, which I found interesting.

Anyway, I'm not endorsing any of these, I was just up at 4 a.m. and couldn't sleep and started typing random questions in. I'm sure the questions could have been written better.

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Now up. Will watch over the next few days...


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Cannot wait for this one as well...

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This whole Magenta thing just gets more and more fascinating...

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