*** UAP THREAD ***

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I'm now an hour twenty into this thing and, I'm sorry, but there is absolutely no way Barber isn't legit, or isn't at least telling the truth as he knows it. But what he knows is clearly A LOT. His knowledge is just insane, as is the crazy detail into which he's delving. He is 100% speaking from a vast amount of beyond impressive experience, while recalling actual memories, not exaggerated or made up bull***** It's genuinely impressive and all comes across as so damn authentic. His matter-of-fact-ness is especially effective, as he covers increasingly mind-blowing topics.

Anyway, it's late and I need to sleep, so I'll finish the rest this weekend, but I already can't wait.

I finally finished the entire three-hour interview and yeah, that was easily one of the best I've ever seen on the subject.

While so many questions of course remain, my big takeaway is the distinct sense of clarity throughout - from the manner in which Barber speaks to the way he explains what he knows of how The Program (and even reality itself at times) operates - that his coming forward honestly feels momentous. Not in a way that's going to move the needle for skeptics or the public at large yet, but in a way that could eventually lead to whatever the next phase of this movement might be.

Man, that was good. And even strangely encouraging.

In the sense that yes, there are those willing to kill to maintain the cover up but, A) according to Barber, their efforts are way less coordinated/big brother than we might think, and B) their numbers are dwindling, as those emboldened to achieve disclosure are increasing.

In particular, I found Barber's bit about the DOPSR review process to be so enlightening, and the way he and his team circumvented it not only incredible (if not hilarious), but yet another data point - in a plethora of data points - that he is absolutely the real deal. You can say his stories are wild, but you cannot watch that interview and tell me with a straight face that you think this is some grift on his part.

On a personal note, I also love how… cinematic… his overall journey toward disclosure has been, without him actively trying to weave/spin/tell a cinematic story, if that makes sense. But from the fork-in-the-road moment of having to choose between being a whistleblower vs someone who silences whistleblowers, to realizing that his superiors very well tried to have them killed, to how he and his colleagues "red teamed" them back… it really is the stuff of movies. Like Zero Dark Thirty meets Argo or something.

Barber also gets into some New Jersey drone talk (his team was there in an official capacity and he has some really interesting insight), and then the whole thing wraps up on a genuinely moving note.

To that end, really, overall I found it to be quite profound.

Maybe that makes me a sucker in some people's minds, but at this point I honestly don't care. At the very least, watch the interview for yourself first and then we can talk.
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Guys, you need to get your heads around this, it isn't some ad-hoc disclosure effort, its not being done by amateur investigators researchers, its being done by professional ex-intelligence community agents and professionals. It doesn't mean it's a cabal psyop.

We wanted IC whistleblowers and we've got IC whistleblowers now everyone is saying its a psyop because of the IC whistleblowers!

You can't make this self-implosion-destroying madness up. This community has been so well screwed up by the IC you guys don't know which way is up or what is fact from fiction.

Boy have they done a number on this community.

Guys, you need to give your heads a wobble and get in the program!
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Not too sure about the background here, but I think there was some pushback about this episode. My cursory understanding is that Shawn Ryan did this interview but sat on it and maybe said he would not release it. I guess the UFO community pushed hard enough to cause Shawn to give in and release it.



ETA the tweet from about a week ago that caused the push for Ryan to release the interview.
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The evidence that Bledsoe can summon orbs or whatever is pretty compelling, and there does seem to be some legit government interest in him, but when he says crap like this I completely get why it would make Ryan skittish...

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Bledsoe IMO is both legit and misguided, and Ryan also, which is why my posting history here is centered on the Apostolic mystical tradition. If one's interpretative lens is, by comparison, a more flimsy dispensatalist (instead of preterist) flavored former evangelicalism (Ryan is with Hathor now) ….

then, as is detailed in American Cosmic and Encounters, very real experiences can be manipulated by trickster entities. We need the mysticism and the "gods" of the Apostolic (Catholic / Orthodox) Sacramental, liturgical, scientific, mystical traditions.
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For months, Paul Giamatti has talked about wanting to do a horror movie given his affinity for the supernatural, and while it's not a horror movie per se, I believe that the two-time Oscar nominee has found the perfect project to satisfy his darker curiosities.

I'm told that Giamatti is set to play Art Bell, the legendary host of the radio show Coast to Coast AM, which thrilled millions of listeners across the country with its spooky stories, terrifying tales, and unexplainable mysteries both weird and wonderful.

It's my understanding that the project is envisioned as a two-hander akin to Moonlighting if it took place in the supernatural world of Kolchak: The Night Stalker, as it will follow Bell's longtime partnership with Karen Jackson. They started out as enemies but eventually became best friends and business partners.

Jeff Katz (The Pope's Exorcist) will produce alongside Sophie Cassidy (Love Again) of 2.0 Entertainment, and the producers are currently shopping the hot package, which boasts a script from writers Sam Chalsen and Nelson Greaves. The package includes the rights to Bell's autobiography The Art of Talk.

Speaking of which, Bell most loved to talk about aliens, UFOs, conspiracy theories, and apocalyptic scenarios. He even teamed up with Whitley Streiber to co-write the book The Coming Global Superstorm, which served as the basis for Roland Emmerich's 2004 movie The Day After Tomorrow.

I can easily see Giamatti as Bell, who was the kind of popular oddball the actor played to perfection in the Harvey Pekar biopic American Splendor.

Katz, who actually started his career in talk radio, began chasing the rights to Bell's story following the success of The Pope's Exorcist, which Cassidy was also involved with. That film grossed $77 million worldwide on a reported production budget of $18 million, making it a solid win for Sony's Screen Gems label.

Giamatti is coming off an Oscar nomination for The Holdovers - his second following 2004's Sideways - and he'll soon be seen in the next Downton Abbey series as well as the new season of Black Mirror on Netflix.

Giamatti recently starred in the hit Showtime series Billions as well as Season 2 of HBO's Spanish horror series 30 Coins, and he also co-hosts the podcast Chinwag with Stephen Asma.

Chalsen and Greaves wrote an Inspector Gadget movie for Disney and an untitled Ted Kaczynski movie for 2.0 Entertainment, to give you an idea of their range as writers.
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The thing is Bledsoe did not say it was the return of Christ. He said I don't know and Shawn put the words in his mouth. Chris has been very consistent in retelling his experience in 2012. That being that he understood that when the atrological alignment occured an awakening in humanity would take place. The return of Christ could be one interpretation of "an awakening" out of many.
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MJ20/20 said:

The thing is Bledsoe did not say it was the return of Christ. He said I don't know and Shawn put the words in his mouth. Chris has been very consistent in retelling his experience in 2012. That being that he understood that when the atrological alignment occured an awakening in humanity would take place. The return of Christ could be one interpretation of "an awakening" out of many.
The Great Awakening as in WWG1WGA lol?

i kid i kid
Clear Eyes. Full Heart. Might Lose
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If the orbs are angelic beings - and I definitely think they are real but could also be trickster entities - then that's "Christ returning." If a person dies, and faces judgement, that also. This is the issue with dispensatalist (ie Left Behind stuff) nonsense, where a 19th Century invention makes Christians look like fools.

We have a 2,000 year old framework, where the Apostolic continuation of 2nd Temple practice after Titus decimated the city (as Jesus predicted) gives us big explanatory power:

The gods are real, we are not alone in the cosmos, and many of the gods are parasites and liars.
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I'm in for that.
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It is exciting and nerve wracking at the same time.

as an aside wasn't "Close Encounters" supposedly based off of film that was supposed to be used in a disclosure type film decades ago? I maybe remembering incorrectly
You do not have a soul. You are a soul that has a body.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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Just dropped. So have not listened yet
You do not have a soul. You are a soul that has a body.

We sing Hallelujah! The Lamb has overcome!
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I'm not one to usually call "psyop" but his would make so much more sense to me, re: Bledsoe...

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Thanks. I'm not going to defend Bledsoe even as I think he is genuine and also misguided, like the hyper intelligent Catholic priest also main defender of the ridiculous "divine will" movement (don't look into it).

So D.W. and Taylor had a falling out? It makes sense Taylor is anti-Disclosure, and the 2 books were pretty solipsistic (surprising for OUP, most prestigious in world) … anyway, if so, definitely want to know more about that. Taylor is as credible as Nolan - which takes us back to Bledsoe. He hasn't called bs on him, and father-son have detailed plenty about G.N.

Once again, many things true at the same time
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Spielberg will deliver the next phase of disclosure. A reveal of a real UAP footage - an actual UFO.

The word will go out, spread on social media ….

"This film features an actual UFO"

Filming in New Jersey….

Who has shared the change from "The Dish" to "Disclosure" with cryptic tweets?
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