Marathon on HLN. Say what you will about the politics, but I always thought it was a good show.

The Two Cathedrals is up there with best episode of a TV drama ever IMO.

It's one of the best dramas ever produced for television.

No they don't

It's definitely left leaning, but I think they do a pretty solid job in not trying to make the right/republicans out to be the villains at every turn like they easily could have. Some great ancillary characters like Ainsley Hayes and Joe Quincy and Arnold Vinick were republicans.

Some of it will be dated enough to make you grown, but it will mostly hold up as a great show of great characters embodying the potential of what we wish American democracy could be.

I'm as conservative as they come and this is by far my favorite show

Martin Sheen would be a Republican President with his policies today

I'm pretty sure this is the show that I have watched the most times start to finish. It's a great show to have on in the background while doing other stuff too since it's so dialogue heavy. It's basically like listening to a podcast . . . which reminds me of a story I'll always remember:

When the show was originally on, it also played live on the radio when a new episode came out (can't remember which station). I was in the car with my parents when the episode aired involving the navy supply ship caught in the hurricane (where the president speaks to the crew member). We had just got back home and it was a torrential downpour outside. There was probably about 20 min left in the episode and we stayed in the car to listen on the radio because it was such a cool effect just listening while it's really storming outside.

/coolstorybrah

Allison Janney should have been made the permanent actual Press Secretary like 3 terms ago.

The "walk and talk" is legendary.

90% of my conversations with my employees happen as we're briskly walking 1/4 of a mile from one meeting to another.

I'm not sure if that's bc Sorkin groomed me.

Do you need to agree with the 'politics' of a show or movie to enjoy it? I dont get that

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Do you need to agree with the 'politics' of a show or movie to enjoy it? I dont get that

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It's never enjoyable when politics feels forced but good writing will always be entertaining.

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Interestingly enough, I thought seasons 6-7 were more preachy than 1-4. Maybe it's because the writing wasn't as subtle, but what I appreciated about Sorkin is that he did actually attempt to give some right leaning perspective (unlike the Newsroom which I just could stomach). In particular, there was a scene with Ainsley Hayes (gorgeous) but I digress, and she was talking about gun control and how the left simply doesn't like guns, but they don't like the people who like guns. Quote ended with "you don't like the people." That was bold.

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Since y'all broached I'm going to go there.

The reason for this is because the country has only ever moved leftward. JFK would be a hard core Republican now. Bill Clinton would be a Republican in 2022. Go look at videos of his speeches.

The show was merely reflecting the sign of the times. We were much more balanced then. You make that show now and it would be CRT and woke bull**** like you couldn't believe.

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Yeah, things in 2000 (this show's heyday) were just suuuuper balanced.

(Which is a weird thing for you to comment on as you've already said you never watched the damn show).

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I don't need to have seen a show on politics to know what it was reflecting based on when it aired...especially after numerous posters already confirmed exactly what anyone would have expected.

It's common sense.

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I don't need to have seen a show on politics to know what it was reflecting based on when it aired...especially after numerous posters already confirmed exactly what anyone would have expected.

It's common sense.

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You do need to have seen the show to comment on what it showed. (If you'd actually watched it, you'd know it's not a "show on politics".)

F16 is a few down, though you already know how to find that.

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I don't need to have seen a show on politics to know what it was reflecting based on when it aired...especially after numerous posters already confirmed exactly what anyone would have expected.

It's common sense.

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You do need to have seen the show to comment on what it showed. (If you'd actually watched it, you'd know it's not a "show on politics".)

F16 is a few down, though you already know how to find that.

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F16 is the new Godwin.

Apply some thought to the time period and knowledge of politics and it's evolution in this country.

But maybe you are simply too young and are ignorant of reality?

Let's switch gears…

This show has some of the greatest cold opens. What is your favorite?

I'll start. The one where Sam meets Ansley Hayes and gets roasted on live TV.

Sam: " I hope no one's watching "
Josh: " Hey everyone….. Sam getting beat up by a girl!"

"Ginger, get the popcorn."

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Absolutely….. they do a great job of representing both points of views.

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Love the show.......but this comment was beyond ridiculous.