*** THE BATMAN UNIVERSE ***

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YouBet said:

Will Catwoman be in this? I want final line in Batman 2 to be same line at end of Eyes Wide Shut.


No, rumor is she is not in this film.
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Have seen a couple of things about Sebastian Stan saying he plays Harvey Dent... true or just more misdirection?

Already been debated between Dent and Victor Zsasz, but not sure what to believe.

And yeah, please move this freaking film up in release timeline.

Two more months until a Halloween rewatch of The Batman.
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Still trying to get my wife to watch this Batman. Halloween may be my in plus she liked Pattinson in Odyssey. I'm using his acting chops as my angle to convince her that she needs to see how he can play two totally different characters.
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LOL, love it... the psychology of marriage. My wife made me watch The Bachelor with her for years and she pointed out that she never contested Aggie games on the weekend. And truthfully, The Bachelor became it's own sporting event anyway. Rooting interests for contestants, etc.

A little Pattinson-based judo is a good call. Need to report back with what she thinks.

I still get surprised that people didn't like this iteration of Batman. My brother (who also posts) didn't like this one at all. I loved it. More of a crime thriller than an Avengers-type superhero movie... add in Battinson, and Lord willing she digs it.
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I disliked it the first time I watched it but then loved it the second time. Don't recall why that was.
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Interesting... I think I liked it better the second time myself, though I did like it the first time. To equate it to food, you better know the flavors to expect and the first watch is so different from previous versions.

Very unique film.
VP at Pierce and Pierce
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I disliked it the first time I watched it but then loved it the second time. Don't recall why that was.


I loved the Nolan films but there are parts of the first Reeve's Batman that I believed are better. It's a damn good film and I really enjoyed the crime story aspect as well as the cinematography.
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CaptAmerica03 said:

Have seen a couple of things about Sebastian Stan saying he plays Harvey Dent... true or just more misdirection?

Already been debated between Dent and Victor Zsasz, but not sure what to believe.

And yeah, please move this freaking film up in release timeline.

Two more months until a Halloween rewatch of The Batman.


It's since come out that the French outlet who interviewed him misquoted him, re: the Harvey Dent thing. There was even a pic of him a restaurant this past weekend and he's bald as hell.

As of now, the signs currently point to...

Sebastian Stan = Victor Zsasz

Scarlett Johansson = Poison Ivy

Charles Dance = Court of Owls member / potential father of Scarlett Johansson's character

Brian Tyree Henry = Harvey Dent

Not a single one of those are confirmed, though, so take all with a grain of salt.
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Don't like the casting of Brian Tyree Henry as Harvey Dent. I don't see that at all.
Brian Earl Spilner
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Yeah that's odd casting to me too.
CaptAmerica03
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Thanks TCTTS, the recency of seeing those things made me wonder about accuracy. You and others on this thread have been great about considering all angles but backing it up with data as to what is ACTUALLY going on.

Side note, I recently showed my sons (17 and 14) Se7en for the first time and forgot about how it inspired this take on Gotham and Batman. Will be fun to inform them of this before our annual viewing of The Batman this fall.

Se7en kinda freaked out my 14 year old, as did the scene with Riddler in the mayor's living room. And if I start singing Ave Maria, he doesn't love it, though he's less freaked by The Batman now that he's seen it a few times. Maybe the correlation to Se7en will help his enjoyment of Part 2 on the first go-round. Plus he'll be significantly older (eyeroll emoji) thanks to the delays.
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No problem.

For the record, here's confirmation of the misquote...

https://www.thewrap.com/creative-content/movies/sebastian-stan-hasnt-confirmed-harvey-dent-in-the-batman-part-2/

And that's awesome, re: Se7en, as is messing with your 14-year-old by singing Ave Maria to him, hahaha. That said, if Part II is, indeed, partly inspired by Eyes Wide Shut, I have a feeling that one probably won't be a family viewing.
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Lathspell said:

Don't like the casting of Brian Tyree Henry as Harvey Dent. I don't see that at all.


Again, just rumor at this point, though it comes directly from Jeff Sneider, a reliable/veteran reporter.

Initially, when everyone thought Sebastian Stan was playing Harvey Dent, and Brian Tyree Henry was cast, the rumors were that Henry was playing Harvey Bullock, which felt like a way better fit.

But then Sneider is the one who broke the news that Stan is actually playing Victor Zsasz, and that Henry is the one playing Harvey Dent. A lot fans gave Sneider ****, said no way, etc, but then Stan revealed that he had a bald head for shooting, and was working out hard with a trainer, which pretty much shut everyone up/convinced everyone that Sneider was right.

People still then tried to rationalize the Henry part of the news, saying that Sneider must have gotten his Harveys confused, and that Henry was still playing Bullock. Sneider then doubled down and said, nope, he's playing Dent. Again, still not officially confirmed, but seeing as Sneider seems to have been proven right on Stan, it would make sense that he's also right about Henry. We shall see, though...
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Black man can't get a job in the DA's office in Gotham City anymore?

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CharleyKerfeld said:

Black man can't get a job in the DA's office in Gotham City anymore?



Has nothing to do with him being black. He just doesn't look the part.

Billy D Williams, I can buy as a high level prosecutor. I just don't want my Harvey Dent looking... frumpy? Harvey Dent and Two-face should look sharp, to me. Sebastian Stan had a great look for Harvey Dent, imo.
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Lathspell said:

CharleyKerfeld said:

Black man can't get a job in the DA's office in Gotham City anymore?



Has nothing to do with him being black. He just doesn't look the part.

Billy D Williams, I can buy as a high level prosecutor. I just don't want my Harvey Dent looking... frumpy? Harvey Dent and Two-face should look sharp, to me. Sebastian Stan had a great look for Harvey Dent, i

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Such a cool music choice too. Perfection.
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Just wait for the movie bro.
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No thanks.
 
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