Yeah, I mentioned the Smith/Robbie thing in the other thread. There was a TON of smoke there, credible rumors, and some pretty convincing paparazzi/set pics, if I remember correctly.

Travolta is NOT gay. I've met him many times and he never put the moves on me or showed the slightest interest.

Now I just want to watch Focus for the 100th time, a movie that gets better and better with age...

It had a good thread too.

Never mind. Don't want to risk the ban hammer.

(Nothing political, just a childish joke link.)

Really dude?

First clue should have been that I almost always post Tweets, never straight links.

Well it certainly wasn't a straight link.

Damnit did I miss a lemon party?

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Damnit did I miss a lemon party?

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Well there is a Lumon party starting late Thursday night and going all day Friday

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The idea that he would risk his career to defend a woman who cheated on him is laughable to me.

Seems staged to me. If not staged, and I know the liberal left in CA is beyond crazy, but even there he would have been arrested on the spot. Tons of cops and security and the guy violently assaults a person and is allowed to take his seat and 45 minutes later accept an award? I don't think so.

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Welcome to Hollywood, it's a different set of rules for them.

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Were there any legs there or was that just speculation?

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Margot Robbie's legs.

More Legs...

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Were there any legs there or was that just speculation?

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Margot Robbie's legs.

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Remember Denzel Washington’s words from the #Oscars

"at your highest moment, OJ Simpson will find you and give the most ironic take of all time."

I'm now convinced that I'm on an episode of #SouthPark #ojsimpson #WillSmith https://t.co/mvMptCpEip

— Clayton Davis - Standing with 🇺🇦 (@ByClaytonDavis) March 29, 2022

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OJ saying it took a lot of restraint for him to hold back from every comedian that does a joke about you and he should know.

One difference between OJ and Will Smith is Will Smith never rushed for over 2000 yards in a 14 game season.

OJ could live for 70 million years and not even meet every person who has made a joke about him since 1994.

"I saw Chris at Guy [Oseary]'s party and as soon as I walked up to him, the first thing he said was, 'I am so sorry...It was supposed to be your night. I'm so sorry this is now going to be about this.' Because that's who Chris is." https://t.co/SoIUJSa8xK

— Kris Tapley (@kristapley) March 30, 2022

.@iamWandaSykes was here today and shared some thoughts about #Oscar night. pic.twitter.com/i5tj8sYbIB

— Ellen DeGeneres (@TheEllenShow) March 30, 2022

Shock turns to hand-wringing over how the Academy should punish Will Smith: Suspend him? Expel him? Ban him from the show? Revoke his Oscar? Here, Academy governors and members weigh in: “I will never, ever vote for anything Will Smith is in again.” https://t.co/6iToigw2dM

— Scott Feinberg (@ScottFeinberg) March 29, 2022

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But actors branch member Rutanya Alda disagreed. "I think security should have escorted him out immediately instead of letting him sit there spewing unacceptable language at Chris Rock," she asserted. "Someone else should have accepted his award. Why did he get a pass? Is the Academy frightened of celebrities? He came off as a guy with no class and made me wish I hadn't voted for him.

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This is how I felt at the time. He should have been escorted from the theater at the next commercial. But whoever was in charge was probably too scared to make that call, especially with best actor coming up.

Agreed.

They should come out and drop the ban hammer on him. Tell him he can keep the Oscar trophy if he thinks he's worthy of it, but never let him back to the ceremony.

Then they need to appoint some hard ass as the Show Czar, who makes decisions in the moment if something like this happens, because they should have gone to a commercial, made him leave, and given the trophy to whoever finished second in the voting.

The problem is that there wasn't one person responsible for making the call, and the group responsible was dispersed in the theater. They couldn't pull together fast enough to even start to make any kind of decision.

I've been thinking about how pathetic of a POS will Smith is. This was basically a kick the dog moment with a little bit of picking on someone you perceive weaker than oneself. Smith was obviously mad about other things so lashed out at the dog in this situation, Chris Rock. Chris being a much slighter fella, will obviously felt like he was superior and chose to lash out at someone he perceived as weaker. These are things I teach my 5 year old not to do. It was a sad pathetic display from a sad pathetic man. I feel terrible for Chris, but we shouldnt because he just showed his character to the world, and he should be proud. He didn't retaliate, he didn't blow will up online or in person. He took it with grace, continued doing his job and helped everyone else who was assuredly in shock move on in that moment. Fathers should show his reaction to their children. There wasn't a bigger man in that room that night. It is sad that so many will look at Chris with pity and he may even feel shame, I cant imagine not feeling ashamed after being forced in to that moment, but his character stands tall in a sea of sad pathetic people in that audience.

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But actors branch member Rutanya Alda disagreed. "I think security should have escorted him out immediately instead of letting him sit there spewing unacceptable language at Chris Rock," she asserted. "Someone else should have accepted his award. Why did he get a pass? Is the Academy frightened of celebrities? He came off as a guy with no class and made me wish I hadn't voted for him.

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This is how I felt at the time. He should have been escorted from the theater at the next commercial. But whoever was in charge was probably too scared to make that call, especially with best actor coming up.

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I realize I'm going to get blasted for this on this board and am ready for it...but I think that's likely the way it gets handled if he was not black. Especially white and slapping a black man but even prob if white on white. Society now overcompensates in their treatment of black men in many ways. Hollywood, ten fold. I could be wrong, but I think the chances are much greater that it's handled differently if races were diff.

Imagine Alec Baldwin (before shooting) going up there and assaulting one of the guest presenters over a joke and then going into an unhinged tirade. I just can't see everyone pretending it didn't happen, much less giving him a standing O and acting like his speech about being a "vessel of love" was beautiful and courageous.

And for all the people there that claim they stand up for the little guy, the marginalized and the weaker less powerful and want to empower people, they just stood idly by while one of the most powerful men in the theater in that moment assaulted someone who most probably perceive as less powerful, in that moment. They then gave him a standing ovation. So sickening. These people need to do some soul searching before they go in to preach at the rest of the world like they are wont to do.

That's probably right.

That said, I guarantee you, whatever talk there was among those in charge, they all knew that letting Smith stay and give his acceptance speech would be ratings gold. Maybe they even assumed he'd apologize, and wanted to give him that chance. But then it completely backfired when he got a standing ovation and essentially doubled down. THAT was the part that people seem to be the most sickened by, almost more than the slap itself.

Either way, he shouldn't have even been in the building by that point.

Boo, I think everyone thinks that. And because he's Will Smith, an A+++ lister. Alec Baldwin ain't that.

I'm still wondering why Will Smith fights like such a *****.

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They should come out and drop the ban hammer on him. Tell him he can keep the Oscar trophy if he thinks he's worthy of it, but never let him back to the ceremony.

Then they need to appoint some hard ass as the Show Czar, who makes decisions in the moment if something like this happens, because they should have gone to a commercial, made him leave, and given the trophy to whoever finished second in the voting.

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Gets my vote...

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I realize I'm going to get blasted for this on this board and am ready for it...but I think that's likely the way it gets handled if he was not black. Especially white and slapping a black man but even prob if white on white. Society now overcompensates in their treatment of black men in many ways. Hollywood, ten fold. I could be wrong, but I think the chances are much greater that it's handled differently if races were diff.

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not 'blasting' you per se. but i don't think race has anything to do with this. it's about fame, money, and (as someone pointed out) ratings.

this situation ironically reminds me of chris rock's old sketch from bigger and blacker when he talks about OJ skating for the double homicide; it was about money...not race.

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Boo, I think everyone thinks that. And because he's Will Smith, an A+++ lister. Alec Baldwin ain't that.

I'm still wondering why Will Smith fights like such a *****.

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Not everyone. A lot of people of a certain political persuasion for some reason cannot even begin to accept this notion. t least outwardly.

May be something to the A+++ list actor thing, but I don't know...I think some white A list actors get handled differently. Especially if he hit a black man. I think a lot of the room walks out during his acceptance speech as well...assuming he was even allowed to remain and not reprimanded...which is a long shot imo.

Imagine Ben Affleck, Matt Damon, or Brad Pitt getting angry and doing exactly the same.

In other words

I'm not even sure the conversation was even had between everyone necessary. You'd need people from the Academy, the show producers, and probably ABC to all come to a decision on how to proceed, and somewhere in there I think all of those people have to assess and process exactly what just happened. I'm sure there was a sense of shock and confusion.

That said, whether they thought it was a good idea to let him go up or they just couldn't react in time, I agree his acceptance speech definitely made everything worse. That was his opportunity to apologize and express contrition, but he doubled down and the standing ovation was just fuel on the fire. ETA He shouldn't have been in the building at that point, yes. Someone should have just made the executive decision to toss him, regardless of whether he was nominated for an award or not.

I think at this point the Academy needs to take some drastic action to save face. Otherwise they look impotent and hypocritical.