Know Your Enemy said:

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Complete Idiot said:

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The district attorneys office knows DeGuzman is Lalo. They know Saul slipped and called his client Lalo. Represented Tuco and other known associates. They are tailing him. Might not work for show but it seems they could discover Kim visited Lalo in jail as well.

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The DA wasn't one of the two people Saul was talking to when he accidentally said Lalo, was she?

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No, but same office - coworkers I think

Needed to be lily of the valley

Sports-Ag said:

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oragator said:

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By the way, the set up of the rain and flower where he died?
Next level.

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Indeed. Also with the blue flower, maybe a nod to the blue meth in BB.

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That's what I took it for, but probably not.

It could have been.
But I took it as the farthest color from the surrounding brush as they could get, to really make it stand out. Red or yellow are closer to brown . So really green or blue were the choices, and green is typical for plants, so a bright blue made sense. Just more of their amazing attention to detail.

How does tonight fit in with saul on his knees in the desert with Walt and Jesse? Saul doesn't know what nacho did to Lalo. And that also means he knows what he was told about Lalo tonight wasn't true.

I'm going in,

I was thinking about that at the end of the show as well. I think the writers will find a way.

Not sure how they'll land it, but Saul works for Team Salamanca so given Nacho's betrayal of the team (which I assume he'll find out more details), gonna guess that ties in.

Definitely having Ned Stark vibes after tonight. Dang.

This show is so damn good.

RIP Nacho.

The opening shot.

So jumping ahead four years to Saul's line, "It wasn't me, it was Ignacio."

Is he gonna rat?

One down (Nacho), one to go (Lalo)

Btw, such a great use of storytelling playing the long game on Gus saving Hector's life. That confession about the pills was so huge in selling that Gus had no part in Nacho's betrayal

Nice. And don't be so sure it drops from 9.9. Ozymandias still has a 10. I believe the only episode of tv to have a perfect score.

And like someone said, it's crazy we still have 10 episodes to go.

Kind of crazy that there was no Lalo and we have zero indication of what he's up to. I'm guessing whatever it is, it's about to become the major plotline of the season now that Nacho is gone.

But given the fact that every major character is still alive in BB (Hector, Gus, Mike, Bolsa), Lalo pretty much has to die, right? My guess is he somehow has Gus dead to rights, confronts him, and is somehow outsmarted and killed.

But somehow this has to happen without Saul ever finding out. (Well he currently thinks he's dead, but he has to find out he's alive and then keep thinking he's alive in BB time.)

torrid said:

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Teddy Perkins said:

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torrid said:

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Complete Idiot said:

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aTmAg said:

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Nacho might have overdone it. The Salamancas may go after his dad in spite. Mike can't protect him 24/7. And it can't be known that Mike is protecting him at all.

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I'm 98% sure the Nacho/Nacho's Dad storyline is done. Moving on.

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I'm not sure. When Mike found the false ID for Nacho's dad in the safe, he deliberately put it away in his pocket like he thought he might need it later.

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I think the more obvious inference here is that Mike kept the ID so the Salamancas wouldn't find it when they broke into the safe, in the hopes it would keep him safe.

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I still think there's more to it. He didn't just remove it, but squirreled it away in his pocket like he though he might need it later. I can't say why, but it seems like an open plot point which will come into play.

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Well, it was a Canadian ID just like Nachos was, I assume the implication it was part of his getaway plan.
So Mike takes the ID, and now Nacho's dad still has that as an option in theory.

oragator said:

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It could have been.
But I took it as the farthest color from the surrounding brush as they could get, to really make it stand out. Red or yellow are closer to brown . So really green or blue were the choices, and green is typical for plants, so a bright blue made sense. Just more of their amazing attention to detail.

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I'm not a horticulturalist by trade, but there are varieties of blue wild flowers that only bloom for a day or two, and can be found by themselves like that. I had one show up randomly in the backyard the other day before the dog decided it was edible. It was standing all by itself in a patch of grass. I never like to read or speculate too much into the thoughts that might have gone into the final imagery presented, but if one were to think of a wild flower that naturally dies young and by itself, one might imagine some comparisons w/ Nacho. It would be hard to say he died free, but he certainly wasn't like the people surrounding him at the end. He wasn't one of them and he found a way to let them know it.

Sports-Ag said:

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oragator said:

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By the way, the set up of the rain and flower where he died?
Next level.

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Indeed. Also with the blue flower, maybe a nod to the blue meth in BB.

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That was my thought, the combination of the color blue and a piece of glass seems like a nod to me.

Complete Idiot said:

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aTmAg said:

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Nacho might have overdone it. The Salamancas may go after his dad in spite. Mike can't protect him 24/7. And it can't be known that Mike is protecting him at all.

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I'm 98% sure the Nacho/Nacho's Dad storyline is done. Moving on.

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I agree. The twins and hector are still live in BB, and Mike would have killed some/all of them. But the real life cartel is known to go after family. And they probably would in this case.