*****Official Seinfeld Thread *****

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Bunk Moreland said:

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GEORGE: Slippery Pete, Kramer tells me you are one hell of a rogue electrician. And shlomo, you're the best truck driver.
SHLOMO: I don't know If I'm the best.
GEORGE: Oh...you're very good.
SHLOMO: Let's say "good."
GEORGE: Ok. Good. And Kramer, you're in charge of taping off the loading zone.
KRAMER: Lock and load.
SLIPPERY PETE: You think you can handle that, numb nuts?
KRAMER: All right, all right, come on, now.
SLIPPERY PETE: That was my mail-order bride.
KRAMER: Hey, you weren't home, so I signed for her.
SLIPPERY PETE: It doesn't give you the right to make out with her.
KRAMER: You weren't even married yet.



The overhead shot of the street with George as the literal Frogger is TV greatness.

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I'm enjoying a sort of rewatch.

My son is now watching the entire series and I occasionally see one with him. I have told him on a few episodes to make sure and watch it with me - some of the best ones of course.

It's been fun he is really enjoying it. He is 26 now.

What's incredible to me now is how much of it you could actually not get away with today. The gay humor seemed completely benign at the time but no way you could make those references today. In fact at least one character would have to be gay today and another one a minority. You could never make this show today as it was. Sad.

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I never found the gay humor to be that bad, at all. I don't remember the show making fun of gays.

The biggest episode focused around that is when the college chick writing the article thinks Jerry and George are gay, "not that there's anything wrong with that."

The only response from the lesbian chick on that video posted earlier in the thread was why was it so bad for someone to think they were gay?

That is such a stupid response. There are many reason I can think of why one wouldn't want an article to be written claiming you are gay if you are not. I would want to correct someone if they thought I was anything I'm not.

Outside of that, any guy who says they have never jackassed around with friends by making gay remarks to try and make them feel uncomfortable for laughs is just lying or doesn't have good friends.
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Zombie Jon Snow said:


I'm enjoying a sort of rewatch.

My son is now watching the entire series and I occasionally see one with him. I have told him on a few episodes to make sure and watch it with me - some of the best ones of course.

It's been fun he is really enjoying it. He is 26 now.

What's incredible to me now is how much of it you could actually not get away with today. The gay humor seemed completely benign at the time but no way you could make those references today. In fact at least one character would have to be gay today and another one a minority. You could never make this show today as it was. Sad.


Imagine the one where Elaine dates the guy she thinks is black and he thinks she's Hispanic. Then they're bummed out when they realize they're "just a couple of white people".

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I contend that nobody can actually be offended about anything they made fun of throughout the series purely based on Judge Vandelay's ruling after the verdict:

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I do not know how, or under what circumstances the four of you found each other, but your callous indifference and utter disregard for everything that is good and decent has rocked the very foundation upon which our society is built. I can think of nothing more fitting than for the four of youto spend a year removed from society so that you can contemplate the manner in which you have conducted yourselves.

In the end, they wrote those 4 characters as the worst and they had to do hard time!
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Bunk Moreland said:

I contend that nobody can actually be offended about anything they made fun of throughout the series purely based on Judge Vandelay's ruling after the verdict:

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I do not know how, or under what circumstances the four of you found each other, but your callous indifference and utter disregard for everything that is good and decent has rocked the very foundation upon which our society is built. I can think of nothing more fitting than for the four of youto spend a year removed from society so that you can contemplate the manner in which you have conducted yourselves.


Exactly. It's the whole point of the show. These are horrible people, granted different levels of horrible.
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Yeah sorry I meant not just the gay humor, most of which was mild, but in general.

Some of it was in the stand up stuff Jerry did in the intro and outro to the shows. Maybe it gets a pass because of that. Just a little off color at times.

But there was also The Beard episode where Elaine tries to turn a gay man straight.

And some were more racist in content like the one where Jerry attempted to date a native American woman and called her an Indian Giver.

Kramer had a traveling asian man sleep in his dresser drawer. He also caused a riot in The Puerto Rican Day by burning their flag (accidentally) and chalked it up like it was another day in Puerto Rico.

In The Wizard Elaine can't figure out the race of the guy she is dating and thinks he is a light skinned black guy. And vice versa he thinks she is Hispanic. They end up being just white people.

Jerry claims he cannot be racist if he likes asian women.

It had its moments for sure. A lot of that would not fly today.

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It flies every week on Sunny and South park
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Zombie Jon Snow said:

Yeah sorry I meant not just the gay humor, most of which was mild, but in general.

Some of it was in the stand up stuff Jerry did in the intro and outro to the shows. Maybe it gets a pass because of that. Just a little off color at times.

But there was also The Beard episode where Elaine tries to turn a gay man straight.

And some were more racist in content like the one where Jerry attempted to date a native American woman andcalled her an Indian Giver.

Kramer had a traveling asian man sleep in his dresser drawer. He also caused a riot in The Puerto Rican Day by burning their flag (accidentally) and chalked it up like it was another day in Puerto Rico.

In The Wizard Elaine can't figure out the race of the guy she is dating and thinks he is a light skinned black guy. And vice versa he thinks she is Hispanic. They end up being just white people.

Jerry claims he cannot be racist if he likes asian women.

It had its moments for sure. A lot of that would not fly today.




I'm sorry but I'm not familiar with that term.
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Zombie Jon Snow said:

Yeah sorry I meant not just the gay humor, most of which was mild, but in general.

Some of it was in the stand up stuff Jerry did in the intro and outro to the shows. Maybe it gets a pass because of that. Just a little off color at times.

But there was also The Beard episode where Elaine tries to turn a gay man straight.

And some were more racist in content like the one where Jerry attempted to date a native American woman and called her an Indian Giver.

Kramer had a traveling asian man sleep in his dresser drawer. He also caused a riot in The Puerto Rican Day by burning their flag (accidentally) and chalked it up like it was another day in Puerto Rico.

In The Wizard Elaine can't figure out the race of the guy she is dating and thinks he is a light skinned black guy. And vice versa he thinks she is Hispanic. They end up being just white people.

Jerry claims he cannot be racist if he likes asian women.

It had its moments for sure. A lot of that would not fly today.




The Puerto Rican day episode immediately got a lot of hate and was pulled from reruns and syndication. I think they are showing it again now, but I haven't seen it since it originally aired, and I remember it being one of the worst episodes of the whole series.
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TXAG 05 said:

Zombie Jon Snow said:

Yeah sorry I meant not just the gay humor, most of which was mild, but in general.

Some of it was in the stand up stuff Jerry did in the intro and outro to the shows. Maybe it gets a pass because of that. Just a little off color at times.

But there was also The Beard episode where Elaine tries to turn a gay man straight.

And some were more racist in content like the one where Jerry attempted to date a native American woman and called her an Indian Giver.

Kramer had a traveling asian man sleep in his dresser drawer. He also caused a riot in The Puerto Rican Day by burning their flag (accidentally) and chalked it up like it was another day in Puerto Rico.

In The Wizard Elaine can't figure out the race of the guy she is dating and thinks he is a light skinned black guy. And vice versa he thinks she is Hispanic. They end up being just white people.

Jerry claims he cannot be racist if he likes asian women.

It had its moments for sure. A lot of that would not fly today.




The Puerto Rican day episode immediately got a lot of hate and was pulled from reruns and syndication. I think they are showing it again now, but I haven't seen it since it originally aired, and I remember it being one of the best episodes of the whole series.


You mistyped.

I fixed it for you.
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Not even close, but whatever works for you. The entire last season had its moments but was a big step down. You are the first person I've ever seen say they actually liked that episode, let alone consider it one of the greats.

But I guess that's the good thing about Seinfeld, there is something for everyone.
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I love the Puerto Rican Day Parade episode, as do most of my seinfeld friends. It does a fantastic job of bringing a lot of pieces of the entire series full circle with all their alter egos and whatnot
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TXAG 05 said:

Not even close, but whatever works for you. The entire last season had its moments but was a big step down. You are the first person I've ever seen say they actually liked that episode, let alone consider it one of the greats.

But I guess that's the good thing about Seinfeld, there is something for everyone.


The whole issue with Jerry and Lamar and the traffic disagreement

Elaine with the cab driver

Kramer becoming Pennypacker again so he can use a bathroom and the way he describes himself to the realtor

George being Vandelay to get to the bathroom

Jerry being Varnsen to watch the Mets game

Cedric and Bob showing up out of nowhere

Lamar yelling "hey jackass, get me a Diet Dr Pepper!" and Jerry yelling "Allllright". They are mad at each other but he's going to get him a drink anyway because they are all in this jam together

Kramer crawling into the Saab with the Puerto Rican family

The George/laser pointer guy bit isn't that strong but it does highlight how much of a moron George is to hang on to one zinger that isn't that funny. Kinda like "jerk store".
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Understated is that Elaine unwinds by watching 60 Minutes like some kind of octogenarian
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Only 5 people voted on best episode today so I'm going to lock it down at midnight and start the next round.
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How you blew that McConnell deal, I'll never know ….
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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Round 2 results from Best Episode

#1 The Contest vs. #9 The Maid 90%-10%
#7 The Junior Mint vs. #15 The Summer of George 31%-69%
#3 The Rye vs. #6 The Outing 59%-41%
#4 The Strike vs. #5 The Pothole 71%-29%

#1 The Marine Biologist vs. #9 The Puffy Shirt 86%-14%
#2 The Chicken Roaster vs. #10 The Bubble Boy 68%-32%
#3 The Fix Up vs. #6 The Opposite 17%-83%
#5 The Fatigues vs. #13 The Yada Yada 29%-71%

#1 The Bizarro Jerry vs. #9 The Comeback 57%-43%
#10 The Shower Head vs. #15 The Hot Tub 62%-38%
#3 The Boyfriend vs. #6 The Muffin Tops 46%-54%
#4 The Little Kicks vs. #5 The Jimmy 52%-48%

#1 The Soup Nazi vs. #9 The Calzone 86%-14%
#2 The Package vs. #10 The Merv Griffin Show 29%-71%
#3 The Cheever Letters vs. #6 The Cadillac 46%-54%

#4 The Hamptons vs. #5 The Fusili Jerry 66%-34%

I'm going to pull some YouTube clips and open the next round in a bit. Thanks for voting.



























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#1 The Bizarro Jerry vs. #9 The Comeback 57%-43%
You guys didn't like The Comeback? Probably because they didn't dumb it down for some bonehead mass audience!
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helloimustbegoing said:

#3 The Cheever Letters vs. #6 The Cadillac 46%-54%

you guys suck.
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double aught said:

You guys didn't like The Comeback? Probably because they didn't dumb it down for some bonehead mass audience!


Me right now.
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Can't believe the Bubble Boy didn't get more love.
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Here is the Sweet 16. Not gonna lie, there are a couple of matchups that I feel could be final 4 stuff.
I just went way down the rabbit hole on clips when I was supposed to be working. I suspect you might be about to do the same.

Link to vote for Sweet 16


#1 The Contest vs. 5 The Pothole



#3 The Rye vs. #15 The Summer of George



#1 The Marine Biologist vs. #13 The Yada Yada



#2 The Chicken Roaster vs. #6 The Opposite



#1 The Bizarro Jerry vs. #4 The Little Kicks



#6 The Muffin Tops vs. #10 The Shower Head



#1 The Soup Nazi vs. #4 The Hamptons



#6 The Cadillac vs. #10 The Merv Griffin Show




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We've got a very solid sweet 16. But I think some clear winners in these matchups
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Can you add the Season and Episode for each?

SxEx
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The Cadillac vs. The Merv Griffin Show, that was tough. Went with the latter though, for the sheer wit and scenes surrounding the Merv Griffin setup in Kramer's apartment.
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Zombie Jon Snow said:


Can you add the Season and Episode for each?

SxEx


No
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helloimustbegoing said:

Zombie Jon Snow said:


Can you add the Season and Episode for each?

SxEx


No
Can you also add the original air date, writer, director, budget, and guest stars?
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#1 The Marine Biologist vs. #9 The Puffy Shirt 86%-14%

These are both FANTASTIC episodes. Not really fair to put the Low Talker up against the iconic Marine Biologist in these early rounds.

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helloimustbegoing said:

Zombie Jon Snow said:


Can you add the Season and Episode for each?

SxEx


No




#1 The Contest S4E11
vs
#5 The Pothole S8E16


#3 The Rye S7E11
vs
#15 The Summer of George S8E22


#1 The Marine Biologist S5E14
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#13 The Yada Yada S8E19


#2 The Chicken Roaster S8E8
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#6 The Opposite S5E22


#1 The Bizarro Jerry S8E3
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#4 The Little Kicks S8E4


#6 The Muffin Tops S8E21
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#10 The Shower Head S7E16


#1 The Soup Nazi S7E6
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#4 The Hamptons S5E20


#6 The Cadillac S7E14
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#10 The Merv Griffin Show S9E6

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As a matter of fact in my own person ongoing complete ranking google doc (currently through S6E6) my #1 and #2 are Marine Biologist.
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The Milkman said:

As a matter of fact in my own person ongoing complete ranking google doc (currently through S6E6) my #1 and #2 are Marine Biologist.
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helloimustbegoing said:

Round 2 results from Best Episode

#1 The Contest vs. #9 The Maid 90%-10%
#7 The Junior Mint vs. #15 The Summer of George 31%-69%
#3 The Rye vs. #6 The Outing 59%-41%
#4 The Strike vs. #5 The Pothole 71%-29%

#1 The Marine Biologist vs. #9 The Puffy Shirt 86%-14%
#2 The Chicken Roaster vs. #10 The Bubble Boy 68%-32%
#3 The Fix Up vs. #6 The Opposite 17%-83%
#5 The Fatigues vs. #13 The Yada Yada 29%-71%

#1 The Bizarro Jerry vs. #9 The Comeback 57%-43%
#10 The Shower Head vs. #15 The Hot Tub 62%-38%
#3 The Boyfriend vs. #6 The Muffin Tops 46%-54%
#4 The Little Kicks vs. #5 The Jimmy 52%-48%

#1 The Soup Nazi vs. #9 The Calzone 86%-14%
#2 The Package vs. #10 The Merv Griffin Show 29%-71%
#3 The Cheever Letters vs. #6 The Cadillac 46%-54%

#4 The Hamptons vs. #5 The Fusili Jerry 66%-34%

I'm going to pull some YouTube clips and open the next round in a bit. Thanks for voting.





























I think I picked all of the underdogs that won except for The Comeback. That is one of my top 5 episodes
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maroon barchetta said:

The Milkman said:

As a matter of fact in my own person ongoing complete ranking google doc (currently through S6E6) my #1 and #2 are Marine Biologist.

As I'm doing a rewatch after each episode I slot it in where I think it goes for an overall ranking. Currently I'm rewatched through S6E6. And those are 1 and 2 up to this point.

I'm not putting others on the list until I rewatch so all the storylines and jokes are fresh in my mind
 
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