Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory is a Murder House

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I just finished watching the original Willy Wonka with my kids. Now, ever since I was a kid I've always been creeped out by the movie, but I never really knew why until tonight. I always thought it was because of the creepy spray tans on the Oompa Loompas. Tonight, I realized Willy Wonka is a slasher film for kids.

Let's look at the evidence. Each room in the factory is set up as a trap for each kid. From the news interview with Augustus Gloop, it's clear that he can't resist chocolate. Wonka sees this, and sets up a chocolate river that he knows Gloop won't be able to resist, with a drain big enough to suck up a kid and send him straight to the boiler.

Next comes the boat ride. The boat only had enough room for eight people, plus Wonka (who stands). The only way the boat works is if Wonka is planning on taking out one of the kids before they get on the boat. Now, about the boat ride. That boat ride was f'd up. Wonka is showing the kids videos of chickens getting their heads cut off, while singing with delight as the kids scream in horror? That man is twisted.

Next up is the inventing room, where he conveniently shows off his gum. Again, from the news footage, he knows Violet is addicted to gum, so he dangles out his magical gum to plump her up... And then sends her to the frigging juicer.

Now is what should be Charlie's turn. He knows that Charlie is a good, honest kid, and he probably won't be tempted, so he goes after his drunk of a grandfather. Let's talk about Grandpa Joe for a minute. This lazy ass hat has not been out of bed for 20 years, but the second he finds out he's got a free trip to the chocolate factory, he jumps right out and starts dancing around the house. Truth is, Grandpa Joe is a lazy drunk who is letting his daughter and grandson do all the work while he just lays in bed drunk all day. Wonka knows this, so he tempts Grandpa with the bubbly, with the plan of chopping up Grandpa and Charlie in the fan blade. Only though sheer luck of a well timed burp are they able to stay alive.

Wonka knows his next two victims don't actual care all that much about sugar, so he tempts Veruca with a golden egg and then sends her off to the incinerator! And this is supposed to be a kids movie!

After he gets rid of Veruca, getting Mike to shrink himself to be small enough to fit in the taffy machine was easy. He calls one of his Oompa Loompas to take him to be pulled apart. That's so f'd up, the Oompa Loompa objects, but eventually is persuaded to tear the kid apart. Likely, because he's too scared of Wonka after seeing the inner workings of the murder house.

Let's talk about the Oompa Loompas for a second. It's clear Wanka kid napped a whole race of indigenous people and bought them over and forced them to work as slave labor in his factory until they are red on the face.

At the end, Wonka is so upset that Charlie was able to best his murder house, he seeks revenge on not just Charlie, but also his entire family. He tricks Charlie into bringing his whole family to the murder house, where he no doubt has more traps.

Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory is murder house set up to kill children in the most gruesome ways, and Willy Wonka is a homicidle maniac on the level of Freddy Kruger and Jason Voorhees. The only question I have now, is does Wonka make his chocolate from the children? I tend to think this is likely.
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Great post

Funny as hell !!!


It would be fun to see a part 2 with that family at the "fun" house as you pointed out

Good stuff
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Two holes in your theory...

How would Wonka know anything about Grandpa Joe?

If he really wanted to off Charlie and Joe couldn't he have done it in the Wonkavator when they're flying?
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Really?!?
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I heard a theory once that Wonka is a former nazi scientist
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So, what I'm hearing in the OP,
You want another remake, but this time more as a horror flick?
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Ag_07 said:

Two holes in your theory...

How would Wonka know anything about Grandpa Joe?

If he really wanted to off Charlie and Joe couldn't he have done it in the Wonkavator when they're flying?


I'm glad you brought up the elevator. Wonka tried to kill Charlie and Grandpa Joe there, but he failed. This is a direct quote from the script:

GRANDPA JOE: But this roof is made of glass. It'll shatter
into a thousand pieces. We'll be cut to ribbons!

WONKA: Probably.
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Ag_07 said:

Two holes in your theory...

How would Wonka know anything about Grandpa Joe?

If he really wanted to off Charlie and Joe couldn't he have done it in the Wonkavator when they're flying?


Wonka did have his assistant present for every golden ticket found in the world, that shows his ability to keep tabs on a few out of millions of chocolate bars. Maybe the candy man at the store was a paid informant and knew to give it to Charlie after weeks of surveillance.
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AtlAg05 said:

Ag_07 said:

Two holes in your theory...

How would Wonka know anything about Grandpa Joe?

If he really wanted to off Charlie and Joe couldn't he have done it in the Wonkavator when they're flying?


Wonka did have his assistant present for every golden ticket found in the world, that shows his ability to keep tabs on a few out of millions of chocolate bars. Maybe the candy man at the store was a paid informant and knew to give it to Charlie after weeks of surveillance.


Exactly. Also, we learn in the remake (which my kids also watched this weekend) that Grandpa Joe used to work in the factory, so it's likely Wonka already knew all about Grandpa Joe.
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tx1c said:

So, what I'm hearing in the OP,
You want another remake, but this time more as a horror flick?
That would be awesome!

And my candidate to play Wonka: Kevin Spacey
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rhutton125 said:

I heard a theory once that Wonka is a former nazi scientist


I like your theory. At one point Wonka even speaks in German.
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AustinAg2K said:

rhutton125 said:

I heard a theory once that Wonka is a former nazi scientist


I like your theory. At one point Wonka even speaks in German.


He did disproportionately target US kids, considering it was a world-wide competition. Hoping for revenge?
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After reading your analysis, this movie should be added to the "Horror Movie October" thread.

I've always thought it was a sadistic movie. Would love to see the making of the making of this movie.
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Willy Wonka would make H.H. Holmes blush with envy.
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There's an entire subreddit devoted to how no one likes Grandpa Joe. It has over 100k members

r/grandpajoehate

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Mulaney on joe, minute 4:00

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AtlAg05 said:

AustinAg2K said:

rhutton125 said:

I heard a theory once that Wonka is a former nazi scientist


I like your theory. At one point Wonka even speaks in German.


He did disproportionately target US kids, considering it was a world-wide competition. Hoping for revenge?


Yes, I have it on good authority he was a lead Nazi scientist in the "Hansel and Gretel" division which explored psy-ops into using candy to lure enemy children to their demise.
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Not to derail the thread, but if you haven't seen "The 5,000 Fingers of Dr. Terwillker" yet, it's a must watch for the whole family. It's got a strangeness along the lines of Willy Wonka.




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One of my favorite YouTube channels had the same thought, pretty good stuff.

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AustinAg2K said:

rhutton125 said:

I heard a theory once that Wonka is a former nazi scientist


I like your theory. At one point Wonka even speaks in German.


Also interesting that blonde headed, blue eyed Charlie is the winner
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That movie always came on TBS when I was a kid. I always thought it was creepy, too. Now I know why.

Not to derail the thread, but The Boxtrolls is another kids/family film that will give you nightmares. The villain is a murderous, cross-dressing lech with a fetish for cheese.
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He's not gonna kill his family, he's framing Charlie for all the other murders
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tx1c said:

So, what I'm hearing in the OP,
You want another remake, but this time more as a horror flick?

I would watch the **** out of Blumhouse "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory"
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javajaws said:

tx1c said:

So, what I'm hearing in the OP,
You want another remake, but this time more as a horror flick?
That would be awesome!

And my candidate to play Wonka: Kevin Spacey
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I would watch the **** out of Blumhouse "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory"
I think most of us would watch it.

Time to bring in TCTTS to bring this home and get it made.
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The OP's synopsis of the movie sounds like the plot of every SAW movie.
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Quote:

Also interesting that blonde headed, blue eyed Charlie is the winner
The Bucket family were clearly Nazi sympathizers, as were some of the English royalty of the early 20th Century. Wilhelm Wonka clearly was rewarding them.
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Up until it was changed to "Windsor" during World War I, the British royal family's name of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha made clear their strong German origins. The future King Edward VIII, known as David to his friends and family, was particularly close to his German cousins, and strongly embraced German culture.
https://www.biography.com/news/edward-viii-wallis-simpson-nazi-sympathizers-hitler
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Watch this clip and try to tell me Wonka isn't an insane murder, psychologically torturing his victims.


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One of my favorite movies as a kid. I loved that Wonka was so delightfully evil.

The honest trailers for this movie is pretty good.



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I absolutely love the movie and love the books.

What is this Wonka, some kind of funhouse?
Why, Having fun?
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Grandpa Joe needs to die a slow and painful death. He and Jenny from Forrest Gump are the two most despicable characters in cinema history. At least Jenny caught the AIDS so Gump could have a happy ending knowing she was gonna die miserably.

I like your theory OP and hopefully Wonka is planning a special death for Grandpa Joes free-riding ass.
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And....your point?
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