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Definitely Not A Cop
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I wonder if it will be accelerating one of the main 5's story, or if they plan to start off including more worldly stuff?
The Dog Lord
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Looks he has a good track record, especially working extensively with Hans Zimmer.
Chipotlemonger
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Champ Bailey said:

I wonder if it will be accelerating one of the main 5's story, or if they plan to start off including more worldly stuff?


I'm guessing that it's more of bringing in other stuff in the world. Might just be a little bit here and there though in the latter half of this season 1. Guess we shall see!

Could it be Aiel and Aviendha stuff? I'm not remembering when they are introduced in the flesh.
bluefire579
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Chipotlemonger said:

Champ Bailey said:

I wonder if it will be accelerating one of the main 5's story, or if they plan to start off including more worldly stuff?


I'm guessing that it's more of bringing in other stuff in the world. Might just be a little bit here and there though in the latter half of this season 1. Guess we shall see!

Could it be Aiel and Aviendha stuff? I'm not remembering when they are introduced in the flesh.
Book 3, I believe. I don't recall any of them being cast.
heddleston
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Could mean we get to see Tear.
zip90
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First Aiel sighting was in Book 2 after the trip through the ways.

But that is just a single Aielman so could be cut until Perrin rescues the Aielman in book 3
The Dog Lord
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I believe he said that season 1 would include material from books 1, 2, and 3. They're moving around certain parts of the timeline so material from book 1 will be in season 2 as well.
Definitely Not A Cop
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bluefire579 said:

Chipotlemonger said:

Champ Bailey said:

I wonder if it will be accelerating one of the main 5's story, or if they plan to start off including more worldly stuff?


I'm guessing that it's more of bringing in other stuff in the world. Might just be a little bit here and there though in the latter half of this season 1. Guess we shall see!

Could it be Aiel and Aviendha stuff? I'm not remembering when they are introduced in the flesh.
Book 3, I believe. I don't recall any of them being cast.


I'm betting if its other nations, we start seeing the Seanchan introduced much earlier
Chipotlemonger
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Yea thanks for the spoiler tags. I don't want this show to be ruined for newcomers to WoT!
I'm not the greatest at remembering them.
boboguitar
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I'm about to finish book 6 and enter the slug. I assume I should be able to stay ahead of the show pretty easily.
USAF Ag 99
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You should have no problem. My second-read through took 6 months total, but I was reading quite a bit. As others have mentioned, there are times it bogs down, but overall it all helps build to some massively entertaining and well-written moments. I don't recommend skipping any of the books...I was happy the series took so long because I loved it!
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Also, I recently read the prequel New Spring, which was pretty well done. Great starting point before the show for folks who have never read the books. You get to glimpse the origins behind several key characters and it does a good job at defining some of the main concepts of the world (i.e., the one power, Aes Sedai, warders, Ajahs, the prophesy of the Dragon, etc). It's also a pretty quick read.
Chipotlemonger
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I recommend New Spring after the first novel. I think Eye of the World is just too good on its own and needs to be read fresh. New Spring might diminish some of the feelings you get reading Eye of the World.

Now whether to read it right after 1 and before 2, I am not sure.
Micah97
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Lews Therin Telamon has been cast:

https://www.wotseries.com/2021/09/05/new-cast-alexander-karim-other-cast-updates/
Whirligigs
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Always enjoyed the books - I hope this doesn't suck.
Quad Dog
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I read the first one a few years ago and wasn't a fan. I remember there being like three different Deus ex machinas that disappointed me. Then the kid masters his giant powers at the end with no effort or work to instantly solve all the problems.
That never motivated me to read more. Should I try again?
boboguitar
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Quad Dog said:

I read the first one a few years ago and wasn't a fan. I remember there being like three different Deus ex machinas that disappointed me. Then the kid masters his giant powers at the end with no effort or work to instantly solve all the problems.
That never motivated me to read more. Should I try again?
I'm only 6 books in and it does seem like Deus ex machina comes up at least once per book but I've been told that there is logic to why they happen.
AtlAg05
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What were the events that you are speaking about?
boboguitar
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AtlAg05 said:

What were the events that you are speaking about?
Pretty much every time Rand learns a new spell/use of power that all of a sudden solves the issue at hand.

Like, I get that he is probably drawing from unconscious knowledge of Lews Therin Telamon but it's annoying every time it happens.
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boboguitar said:

Quad Dog said:

I read the first one a few years ago and wasn't a fan. I remember there being like three different Deus ex machinas that disappointed me. Then the kid masters his giant powers at the end with no effort or work to instantly solve all the problems.
That never motivated me to read more. Should I try again?
I'm only 6 books in and it does seem like Deus ex machina comes up at least once per book but I've been told that there is logic to why they happen.


Rand is the embodiment of Deus ex machina
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Baron Von Flag Smasher said:

boboguitar said:

Quad Dog said:

I read the first one a few years ago and wasn't a fan. I remember there being like three different Deus ex machinas that disappointed me. Then the kid masters his giant powers at the end with no effort or work to instantly solve all the problems.
That never motivated me to read more. Should I try again?
I'm only 6 books in and it does seem like Deus ex machina comes up at least once per book but I've been told that there is logic to why they happen.


Rand is the embodiment of Deus ex machina


I would argue that Matrim is even more. He literally gets out of everything with blind luck.

I thought Jordan did a good job of explaining it with Ta'veren and the pattern and such and how it doesn't always work for good just causes the improbable to become suddenly probable.
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KidDoc said:

Baron Von Flag Smasher said:

boboguitar said:

Quad Dog said:

I read the first one a few years ago and wasn't a fan. I remember there being like three different Deus ex machinas that disappointed me. Then the kid masters his giant powers at the end with no effort or work to instantly solve all the problems.
That never motivated me to read more. Should I try again?
I'm only 6 books in and it does seem like Deus ex machina comes up at least once per book but I've been told that there is logic to why they happen.


Rand is the embodiment of Deus ex machina


I would argue that Matrim is even more. He literally gets out of everything with blind luck.

I thought Jordan did a good job of explaining it with Ta'veren and the pattern and such and how it doesn't always work for good just causes the improbable to become suddenly probable.


His luck and curse are having Rand as his friend. And Matt is my favorite character by the end. Rand was at the beginning.
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Chipotlemonger
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I'll star this. But it's Mat, not Matt.
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Chipotlemonger said:

I'll star this. But it's Mat, not Matt.


I never read the books, I listened to them all on tape.
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Quad Dog
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Thanks for the responses. I don't think I'd enjoy reading more about characters with a bunch of blind luck. Especially if that luck is just the way things are. For me that luck would have to be earned to be more interesting. Or entertaining luck like Domino from Deadpool.

I wonder if the show will have the same mechanic, or try to make it seem more earned.
Chipotlemonger
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It's just an opinion of some. I don't have as many qualms with the character and story development aspects at all. Jordan does have mechanisms in the world that help to explain it.
Claude!
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Quad Dog said:

Thanks for the responses. I don't think I'd enjoy reading more about characters with a bunch of blind luck. Especially if that luck is just the way things are. For me that luck would have to be earned to be more interesting. Or entertaining luck like Domino from Deadpool.

I wonder if the show will have the same mechanic, or try to make it seem more earned.
It's not really presented as such. Weird, unlikely scenarios happen around ta'veren. Not really a plot spoiler, but as an example one of them walks through a town and all of the eligible men and women spontaneously decide to get married or a roof tile get loose and the wind flies it through a window, striking a woman in the head and killing her.

The characters are active participants in events, and all of the boys have some specific reasons for why and how they do what they do, apart from the ta'veren probability (more accurate than calling it luck) stuff that happens around them.
bearamedic99
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Just in case,

It's O'Neil with one "L", not two
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bearamedic99 said:

Just in case,

It's O'Neil with one "L", not two


It two L's. And he says that in the show
Does " Mat" spell his name in a game of foxes and snakes?
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bearamedic99
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D'oh. My bad memory

And I cannot remember
MaroonStain
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Matrim Cauthon...Mat...for short.

Rand Al'Thor is the fing Dragon Reborn FFS.
KidDoc
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I'm nearly done with New Spring on this 3rd re-read and it is a nice addition. I read it after book 8 can probably read it around book 4 and it would fit in well.
redbaron788
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So apparently this happened
bluefire579
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redbaron788 said:

So apparently this happened

Interesting. Can't imagine casting directors are knocking down the original guy's door for parts, so guessing either he got burned out on the back to back shooting schedule or had a conflict that couldn't be resolved.
Chipotlemonger
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Interesting.

Reminds me a little of the Daario recast in GoT, except that was a more minor show role.
 
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