The Oscar Isaac character basically dumps the hot Latin chick telling her he can't be around her any more for fear the Cartels will find them and kill them. Then in the end when he gives his share to Afflecks's family he says he is going to go hook up with her.

So she was supposed to be scared the Cartel was going to kill her and her bro and then the broke ass guy shows up wanting a piece of her $3 million like it's all good? WTF she would probably tell him to screw off.

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WTF she would probably tell him to screw off.

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Not if he told her that he was picking up millions after the following spring thaw.

I think he was just trying to emphasize to her that she had to get the hell out of South America and not come back. And I didn't really get the feeling he wanted to spend the rest of his life with her. Yeah they were banging, but he was using her to pull off the mission and she was going along with it because he promised to get her brother out of prison.

Also, I thought the comment at the end was tongue in cheek.

This movie was terrible in almost every way. The best part was Affleck getting his head blown off followed closely by the moment the movie was over. It fell so flat.

Following up on this after finally watching it last weekend.

It wasn't awful, but I kept waiting for the payoff...and then it ended.

Interesting note, apparently the original script had one of the brothers getting killed off and after reading it Affleck suggested the change. Definitely made for a better story.

I watched it last week and was mostly just impressed with the scenery. This was a beautiful looking film. Some of the shots highlighting the landscape were beautiful and I actually didn't want them to cut away. Especially, out of fear of hearing Charlie Hunnam's god awful attempt at an American accent, which wasn't made any better by pairing him with Garret Hudland (who is actually American) as his brother.

As for the movie, it kind of felt backwards: first a couple action scenes, with the actual heist happening relatively early, followed by a laborious trek. I wonder how it would have played out if the druglord's hideout was very difficult to get to, so that the trek was in the middle, the heist towards the end, and a much more contracted getaway.

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Following up on this after finally watching it last weekend.

It wasn't awful, but I kept waiting for the payoff...and then it ended.

Interesting note, apparently the original script had one of the brothers getting killed off and after reading it Affleck suggested the change. Definitely made for a better story.

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That's probably a subliminal look into Affleck's mental state at the time. This film was shot after his marriage collapsed and right before he went into rehab.

I saw him in San Antonio days after he left rehab and when we lined up to take the picture with him he looked absolutely miserable. People were lined up to take the pics after paying $120 or more and he he whined the whole time and bolted before everyone was done. I heard he was paid $250k for 6 hours of posing for pics but he obviously didn't want to be there and he seemed like he was in a major life slump.

fig96 said:

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Following up on this after finally watching it last weekend.

It wasn't awful, but I kept waiting for the payoff...and then it ended.

Interesting note, apparently the original script had one of the brothers getting killed off and after reading it Affleck suggested the change. Definitely made for a better story.

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that's a good way to describe it.

What's frustrating is that I don't think it would've taken much to make it more fun and interesting. Here are a few thoughts on how this could have been better (some of which are admittedly drawn on thoughts on this thread or that I've heard or read elsewhere):

First, replace Garrett Hedlund with Ben Foster and make him a guy that has no real history with any of the other guys, just his brother. He's going to be the loose-cannon, wild card who is always a threat to either do something stupid or turn on the rest of the team.

Second, there were too many instances of different guys on the team doing stupid, uncharacteristic stuff that a well-disciplined team would not have done. Show me more scenes like the recon work and the way they "hunted" the guards and "called their kills". Make us think they're a well-trained, disciplined team.

Third, don't kill the drug cartel leader at the house. Have him escape by shooting and killing Hunman's character. Then, Oscar Isaac's character convinces the team to deviate from the plan in order to track the cartel guy down. That would make it less frustrating if they were deviating from the plan for a noble cause (either revenge or that this guy has to be stopped) and not just for greed.

The delays eventually cause the team to miss the rendezvous with the chopper, as opposed to an experienced pilot crashing because he ignored the same physics he very clearly understood an hour earlier.

So in addition to the survival aspect, you could have some actual internal tension with the Foster character. He's pissed that his brother got killed and blames the other guys.

Ultimately, I just didn't care much about these guys who were in a bad situation because they were greedy.

I watched it all the way through. Id give it a 6 out of 10.

I thought it was ok. It's a good movie to watch if you dont have anything else going on. 6/10 is probably fair...

The story wasnt bad, but it could have been much better. The 'surprise' ending was beyond predictable...almost like 'well no kidding, that's what everyone would do'

I enjoyed this movie for what it was, a middling action flick made so much more enjoyable a superb cast. While its "greed leads to their downfall" trope was poorly developed, it was easy to understand that was where the filmmakers were going with the movie. You saw Affleck wanting to stay longer and load more money, Pascale agreeing to try to make the flight over the Andes, both despite their experience and training, etc.

Like most of the others have said in this thread, Isaac and Pascale are two of the best working right now and Affleck is actually an enjoyable actor. They are the reason this movie is worth watching.