*****Big Brother 20 - Spoilers*****

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gigemJTH12 said:

Haleigh tho. Good lord. That was tape but I'm sure she's getting a boob job. And that mole removed. She's going to make a **** load of money for being hot.


Haleigh, Rachel, and Angela all already have implants. They talked about it constantly. It was brought up numerous times on this thread also.

I think Tyler overall played the better game, but KC is a deserving winner. He had to know that he was never getting Bayleigh or RS's vote.
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In my opinion Tyler's biggest misstep was backdooring Brett. That was just one more player her could've beat in a vote. I know Kaycee wasn't going that week regardless but keeping Brett would've gave him better odds.
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tailgatetimer10 said:

In my opinion Tyler's biggest misstep was backdooring Brett. That was just one more player her could've beat in a vote. I know Kaycee wasn't going that week regardless but keeping Brett would've gave him better odds.


Brett voted for Tyler in the end, though.

I honestly think getting Brett out was Tyler's biggest move, if not also the best. I don't really consider one alliance solely using comp wins to get out another as a "big move", but rather more it's just expected. Getting out a huge threat in your own alliance, though, counts for a lot more, in my opinion.

Tyler's game hinged on how well he would be able to explain his game last night and do it in a way to not piss people off. Unfortunately, he just couldn't explain it in a concise manner. Partially to blame, at least, is CBS. They gave Sw**** more time for his ****ing proposal than they gave either of the final 2 to answer questions in the jury Q&A segment. Horrible. But Tyler could have done much better.

I think Tyler missplayed only a couple ways leading up to the end. 1) He should've told Sam he had to evict her. He could've honestly said that his vote made no difference, as Angela would just break the tie and send her out. He could've followed that up by explaining that if he broke from the other 2, he would've been targeted the next week (probably not true, but he couldve sold it). 2) His GBM to Scottie was cocky and cringe-y. He should be played up his super fan status here to a fellow super fan and saved the info about the power app for later (maybe telling Angela on her way out). It might have been good to reveal Level 6 as well. 3) He really needed to win the final 4 HoH, but didnt. I dont really count not winning a comp as a misplay (unless you throw it), but this was a huge loss for him.

In his speech, he made another mistake of being cold about his relationship with Sam. I don't know if he could've swung her or not, but this definitely sealed her vote off from him.

Regardless of the result, im just really disapppinted with production of this finale. The season was awesome, but this was easily the worst finale ive seen. Way too rushed, too much time spent on unimportant stuff, no time spent o. The pre-jurors despite some of the best personalities being there, and a huge disservice to the final 2 by giving them next to no time to sway the jury. I also dont like that the Jury doesnt have any time to dwell on the answers and speeches given, but thats been going on for years now.

Great season, though. Hopefully they can top it next year!
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As far as meta-game goes, i think this season definitely emphasizes how important it is to use Good Bye messages as a component of your gameplay. These leave tbe largest lasting impression on the jury and play a far larger part in their decision than a 45 second speech right before the final vote.
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so was there a camera shot of Rockstar's discust face when she learned Tyler, Brett and Haleigh (all good looking 'privileged' people) were in the top 3 of America's favorite?
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Yes he got Brett's vote, however I think if he would've been sitting next to Angela or Brett on the last night, he would've won. That was my point. Legit the only person he would've lost to in the final 5 was Kaycee.. and all of those players would've taken him to final 2.


Agreed. Last night felt rushed. Good thing they set aside plenty of time for Sw**** and bayleigh, you know, the 3 week showmance
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Tyler mentioned his power-app that he didnt use like 5 different times in his answers and final speech. I'm not sure why in his mind that is something so impressive?
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tailgatetimer10 said:

Yes he got Brett's vote, however I think if he would've been sitting next to Angela or Brett on the last night, he would've won. That was my point. Legit the only person he would've lost to in the final 5 was Kaycee.. and all of those players would've taken him to final 2.


Agreed. Last night felt rushed. Good thing they set aside plenty of time for Sw**** and bayleigh, you know, the 3 week showmance


For sure he wouldve won against Angela. Maybe Brett too, but Tyler was far more confident (rightfully so) that he would make it to the final 2 with Kaycee and Angela vs with Brett. Brett explicity stated he wanted to take Sam and JC to the final 4 because they could beat them. Why would Tyler then trust that he would make it to the final 2 if Brett had any opportunity to get him out?

Tyler needed to win final 4 HoH and didnt. He wouldve taken Angela, in my opinion, to the final 2 given the chance.
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I think most houseguests miscalculate how the jury will vote based on varied final twos (everyone is the hero of their own story.)

I think it is easier to look remaining houseguests in the eye and know who will take you to the end.

Tyler read it correctly that Kaycee would coast to coast with him so kudos to that. He read the jury incorrectly and didn't realize how much they genuinely connected with Kaycee.
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The Milkman said:

Tyler mentioned his power-app that he didnt use like 5 different times in his answers and final speech. I'm not sure why in his mind that is something so impressive?


Agree. He should have touted all his deals with people and explain that he was able to let someone else get each of those guys out instead of him other than Brett. Emphasize that because that was a lot more impressive down the stretch. And he then could have told Sam & if the comp ended up differently he would have honored his deal with her.

Either way what Scottie said was right (about the early jury voting block) but even so, I felt they'd all vote for Kaycee except maybe Scottie.
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BenFiasco14 said:

Scottie was probably my least favorite outside of the obvious Bayleigh and Rockstar.

He was a pathological liar and sometimes for no reason at all. Allowed himself to be manipulated by any woman who even sniffed in his general direction. And then at the end just bitter AF.


So true. He had no idea what he was doing. A total social moron in all aspects.
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One of the things Kaycee said was that she was honest and didn't make any promises she couldn't keep... a direct shot at Tyler and his final 2 with a lot of them. As soon as she said that, many jurors nodded their head in agreement. Sam and Scottie were burned by Tyler and this could have resonated with them the most.
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If you're straight and single, is there a better situation than the BB house? You get paired with attractive people with absolutely zero outside influences. You're forced to get to know each other the old fashioned way. Three showmances really show how people can find common ground when only left to their own devices.

If I get on the show, I don't know what I'd do with myself, though. The gay quota is one. Hahaha
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AcctAg11 said:

Lt. Joe Bookman said:

Welp. Does she choose Tyler or JC?


She's been way too loyal. I think she chooses Tyler. But honestly, she might lose against JC. FOUTTE all seems to think JC was a mastermind, which I didn't expect.
I did. Fessy was his "big dumb puppet", remember?
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Eso si, Que es said:

CBS has missed a big opportunity.

I think we can agree none of us are interested in celebrity BB. IMO if they are doing a short winter season they could have done a couples big brother. Jeff/Jordan, Rachel/Brendon, Victor/Nicole, Tyler/Angela, Bayleigh/Chris, Haleigh/Fessy.

You can never put a solo couple in because of the immediate target, but if it was entirely known couples then the field is leveled. I could see some amazing potential game play.

(I would much rather see a different couple besides Bayleigh/Chris but you know CBS wouldn't skip that **** show)
I wouldn't watch that if there was a paycheck involved. The only people in BBhistory that I hate worse than Rachel are Bay and Sw------C.
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BallerStaf2003 said:

If you're straight and single, is there a better situation than the BB house? You get paired with attractive people with absolutely zero outside influences. You're forced to get to know each other the old fashioned way. Three Two showmances really show how people can find common ground when only left to their own devices.

If I get on the show, I don't know what I'd do with myself, though. The gay quota is one. Hahaha
FIFY. I think Haleigh/Fessy and Tyler/Angela are genuine like you say. I think Bay/Chris are either manufactured to extend their 15 minutes or a shotgun wedding situation (or both).
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tk for tu juan said:

Does Big Brother have a higher success rate than The Bachelor of couples getting married/having kids?
well yeah.

think about it.

say a couple makes it 50 days.

how long in the real world would it take to spend enough time together to equate to that?


well over a year if both people have full time jobs. kind of crazy to think about

and thats not even factoring in no cell phone or TV which we all do so much in the real world.

I would say Tyler and Angela spent enough time together to equate to 2 years outside the house. maybe more.
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Flashdiaz said:

One of the things Kaycee said was that she was honest and didn't make any promises she couldn't keep... a direct shot at Tyler and his final 2 with a lot of them.


I texted my friend right when that happened and said, "she just won with that statement"
**** THE RANGERS

**** GARCIA

ALTUVE IS GOD
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That jury except haleigh had their mind made up regardless of the responses
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tailgatetimer10 said:

That jury except haleigh had their mind made up regardless of the responses

I agree, but I think it ultimately all came down to that comment and sentiment. It may have not swayed anyone's minds, but that's the reason she won.

Although if Sam was on the fence, that definitely sealed her decision.
**** THE RANGERS

**** GARCIA

ALTUVE IS GOD
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Sex Panther said:

tailgatetimer10 said:

That jury except haleigh had their mind made up regardless of the responses

Although if Sam was on the fence, that definitely sealed her decision.
Agree. She seemed genuinely hurt he had so many other final two's. She still can't grasp they were playing a game.
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except for Haleigh... sounded like she switched it from Kaycee to Tyler. Blindsiding Fessy yet again....
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Flashdiaz said:

except for Haleigh... sounded like she switched it from Kaycee to Tyler. Blindsiding Fessy yet again....


That's why I said except Haleigh
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that's why I thought Tyler needed to get rid of Kaycee at the double eviction. She didn't have near the blood on her hands that Tyler did
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BallerStaf2003 said:

If you're straight and single, is there a better situation than the BB house? You get paired with attractive people with absolutely zero outside influences. You're forced to get to know each other the old fashioned way. Three showmances really show how people can find common ground when only left to their own devices.

If I get on the show, I don't know what I'd do with myself, though. The gay quota is one. Hahaha
They had 2 gay people this season who spent 99 days together and somehow they avoided hooking up
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Finally got to watch it. I gotta admit that Rockstar actually seemed and sounded human, and even a bit intelligent. Sam, otoh, was completely clueless.
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Excellent season! Can't wait for the winter and next season. I do agree the finale was rushed. It normally feels rushed tho. Biggest issue.
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I agree... Until she said JC was the Mastermind lol
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tailgatetimer10 said:

I agree... Until she said JC was the Mastermind lol
Well, yeah, but she was locked in that house with Fessy for a while, so he had time to convince her of that.
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should we turn this into a houseguest picture thread to keep us busy until next summer?

tailgatetimer10
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O/U how many months does her and Fessy make together?


I'll put the bar at 9 months
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gigemJTH12 said:

should we turn this into a houseguest picture thread to keep us busy until next summer?


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I think thats way high. Maybe 2...
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BallerStaf2003 said:

If I get on the show, I don't know what I'd do with myself, though. The gay quota is one. Hahaha
That didn't stop JC.
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as much as I hate to say it...Kaitlyn was looking pretty good in the videos I saw of all the cast.
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