*** BLACK PANTHER ***

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I haven't seen all the MCU movies and absolutely loved Black Panther. The action sequence in Korea was great. For me, what really resonates was the amazing ensemble of strong female characters; they were smart and strong and crucial to the story. I suspect a lot of women will enjoy this movie as much as Wonder Woman for this reason
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Clarke95 said:

I haven't seen all the MCU movies and absolutely loved Black Panther. The action sequence in Korea was great. For me, what really resonates was the amazing ensemble of strong female characters; they were smart and strong and crucial to the story. I suspect a lot of women will enjoy this movie as much as Wonder Woman for this reason


Does it pass the Bechdel test? Do two named female characters have a conversation that wasn't about a man?
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Easily.
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fig96 said:

Easily.
I was thinking about it and I'm not 100% sure.

You'd think it would. Conversations between the Queen Mother and Princess seem to always involve T'Challa or Killmonger. Do Nakia and Okoye ever talk about things that are operational in nature that don't involve T'Challa? The conversations about what to do after T'Challa "dies" always had Agent Ross play a part, I think.
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I vote yes because while they were often concerned about the King or discussing him, they felt like critical members of the team. Nakia, Okoye and t'challa all went to the casino together, the women worked together to chase down Klaue, the sister operated the tech behind the scenes, etc. They all had agency.
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I enjoyed it. 7/10 for me. I thought the sister stole the show. It may need to sit for a bit before I can rank it in the universe.
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I really didn't care for the movie.

SPOILER

Thought Michael B Jordan won the fight fair and square. Tchalla and his family cheated.

END SPOILER
More *****cat than panther.
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Nice
Laser Wolf
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Haven't seen it, not really excited about it, and may not see it until it is free to watch.
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Laser Wolf said:

Haven't seen it, not really excited about it, and may not see it until it is free to watch.


Cool
Laser Wolf
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TajMaballer said:

Laser Wolf said:

Haven't seen it, not really excited about it, and may not see it until it is free to watch.


Cool


I know
fig96
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I get if people didn't love it, but 5/10 type ratings are pretty ridiculous IMO.

Personally, I loved it, goes near the top of the MCU films for me. The world design was incredible as was the costuming and technology, performances were solid, action sequences were a lot of fun, and it was funnier than I expected.

I thought the overall message was really well done, it didn't hide but it wasn't too in your face either. Some of the dialogue was a bit clunky and there were a few moments where the CG was noticeable, but overall I really enjoyed it.

Will be going back for another viewing sometime in the next week or two.
fig96
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What part of "no spoilers" do you not grasp?
PooDoo
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fig96 said:

What part of "no spoilers" do you not grasp?
this isn't a series is it? Why would you discuss a movie without seeing it?

I'll fix it
M.C. Swag
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well i think your opinion of my opinion is ridiculous. so there.
fig96
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PooDoo said:

fig96 said:

What part of "no spoilers" do you not grasp?
this isn't a series is it? Why would you discuss a movie without seeing it?

I'll fix it
There's a reason everyone is clearly labeling their spoilers as such. I was skimming before I saw it to see people's general opinions, assuming they wouldn't be posting plot points till Monday as we all decided a few pages back.
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M.C. Swag said:

well i think your opinion of my opinion is ridiculous. so there.
Um, ok.

5/10 is an objectively bad movie where things don't make sense, plot points are illogical, acting is bad, etc. Even if BP wasn't your cup of tea, saying it's a genuinely bad movie is totally off base IMO.
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Here we go again with telling someone their dislike for a movie is wrong.
redline248
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Defining 5/10 is as subjective as rating a movie 5/10 for whatever reason
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Philip J Fry said:

Here we go again with telling someone their dislike for a movie is wrong.
Reread my post and tell me where I said that.

Everyone is free to like or dislike whatever they want, but there's a difference between not liking something and it being genuinely bad. Also clearly stated that was my opinion and that I thought a rating like that was silly vs telling a person their opinion is wrong.
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redline248 said:

Defining 5/10 is as subjective as rating a movie 5/10 for whatever reason
Now that's a reasonable argument

To me a score like that would seem to indicate major flaws, but to each their own I suppose.
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fig96 said:

M.C. Swag said:

well i think your opinion of my opinion is ridiculous. so there.
Um, ok.

5/10 is an objectively bad movie where things don't make sense, plot points are illogical, acting is bad, etc. Even if BP wasn't your cup of tea, saying it's a genuinely bad movie is totally off base IMO.


1) I was trying to make a joke.

2) And I nver said it was a "genuinely bad movie." I said it was "meh."

3) Lighten up, Francis
fig96
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Sorry, that was an overreaction. I think I'm worn down from folks who tried to repeatedly beat their TLJ opinion into everyone.
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I'm not a mathematician, but wouldn't 5/10 be about average?
Bruce Almighty
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Ulrich said:

I'm not a mathematician, but wouldn't 5/10 be about average?


Is that what you told your teachers when you got a 50% on your math test?
Ulrich
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Bruce Almighty said:

Ulrich said:

I'm not a mathematician, but wouldn't 5/10 be about average?


Is that what you told your teachers when you got a 50% on your math test?

50% was above average in MATH 152.
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Ulrich said:

Bruce Almighty said:

Ulrich said:

I'm not a mathematician, but wouldn't 5/10 be about average?


Is that what you told your teachers when you got a 50% on your math test?

50% was above average in MATH 152.


QFT
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Maaaaan, **** MATH 152.
Bruce Almighty
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Ulrich said:

Bruce Almighty said:

Ulrich said:

I'm not a mathematician, but wouldn't 5/10 be about average?


Is that what you told your teachers when you got a 50% on your math test?

50% was above average in MATH 152.


Is that engineering math II? I got a C in that class and was very happy. Engineering math III was easier.
Ulrich
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Bruce Almighty said:

Ulrich said:

Bruce Almighty said:

Ulrich said:

I'm not a mathematician, but wouldn't 5/10 be about average?


Is that what you told your teachers when you got a 50% on your math test?

50% was above average in MATH 152.


Is that engineering math II? I got a C in that class and was very happy. Engineering math III was easier.

Yes, me too, and I agree.
fig96
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Well now I see the issue. I'm in here with a bunch of engineering majors.
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This thread is turning around.
The Debt
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Ulrich said:

Bruce Almighty said:

Ulrich said:

I'm not a mathematician, but wouldn't 5/10 be about average?


Is that what you told your teachers when you got a 50% on your math test?

50% was above average in MATH 152.

Is the lower limit 1of10 like imdb?

If so then 5.5 would be the middle and 5/10 would be slightly less than average.


If the scale is 0/10 - 10/10 it is an 11 point scale.
c-jags
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6-7/10

Hoopla was a bit much. I get the importance but it's a bit obvious that the reviews were a little slanted. A movie that has bad cgi rhinos in armor deserves a bit more criticism.

As a whole it ranks around Spider-Man: Homecoming, Antman, and Dr. Strange territory. A good movie that deserves praise for being a good self contained story in a massive universe. Cast was fine, story was mostly fine, plot had his holes, and the villain, while I empathized with him greatly, was mostly forgettable.

That being said, I'm a redneck conservative and I think that the political message was a good one. I understood Killmonger's pain and his reasoning, but revenge isn't the answer, forgiveness and moving forward is. I think they made a good point there without beating people over the head. The tweet about past vs future was spot on.
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c-jags said:

6-7/10

Hoopla was a bit much. I get the importance but it's a bit obvious that the reviews were a little slanted.
Double racist!

Low score - check
Asian joke - check
 
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