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There's nothing surprising about it. I would be surprised if it wasn't good.

Agreed. I don't get where a couple of these people are coming from in their "surprise." From the very first trailer, this has looked amazing. I guess there were doubts because of no Villeneuve?

Even the haters are into it...

(Also: there are people who hated Sicario???)

I really really liked the first one.

This one, from the trailers, looks more like a generic action movie....glad to see that's not the case.

I am do psyched for this movie! Even the wife is excited about it.

The first movie that Sheridan wrote was Sicario and he was over the age of 40?

Never give up on your dreams?

He was a working actor in the business for a while before that, though. Basically just made a shift within his profession. But still, yeah, pretty impressive. As someone who's inching closer and closer to 40, it's inspiring for sure.

Friendly PSA: movie drops this Friday.

More reviews coming in...~40 reviews @ RT and hovering around 70%. I cannot wait for this.

keeping expectations in check because i've become a pretty big fan boy. Its amazing at the amount of people I've spoke to that havent seen the majority of sicario/HOHW/WR

Mike Ryan is a rube.


Got tickets for Thursday night. I'm pumped.

Can't wait to see this.

Happy Soldado day. Hope everyone is wearing crocs with their favorite pair of cargo shorts while hanging out with the most lethal assassin buddy you have.

What I imagine everyone will look like leaving the theater.

****ing. Awesome.

Did you see it?

Just got out.

Some of the most intense scenes I've ever seen on screen. The opening scene is so shocking, yet at the end so much has happened that you have to go back and think about it to remember it.

Writing was incredible. Great takes on almost every decision with the story. Only one really convenient plot device but I was completely fine with it.

Man oh man. What a movie. I love how realistic Sheridan is with his writing. No bias. There's 6 different times where anyone else in Hollywood would have written a scene with such sappy bias to "shed light" on a political belief.

And wow is the subject matter ever more appropriate. Smuggling people across the border, cartel wars etc.

It missed Deakins... I think my theater wasnt as high of quality. Cant wait for the 4k.

The story though... was baller. Stole a bit from Logan...whatevs.

I want part 3. Please bring Emily back to tie it back in they could go a million different ways.

Solid SOLID 7.5/10 for me. Sicario was 8.32/10

6 -> midnight

Can't freakinf wait! Thank you

Sicario was a 9/10 for me. This was maybe a 6 but it had a lot of potential to be higher but the third act is really meh. They obviously are looking to do more films and this film really suffers due to that, IMO. Still some great scenes, but this is the first Sheridan script I feel meh about.

Can't wait to see this

Man I just didn't feel that way at all. I thought 3rd act was great. Tied storylines together well. They filmed this thing 2 years ago and while I agree it didn't have maybe the elite level that Villenueve could bring to the director's chair, it still was really good and I actually like a lot of what they did in this.

To be honest it felt a bit too ambitious to me at times but the final act made me feel a ton better about it overall.

I thought the ending was really bad. Kinda ruined the movie for me unfortunately. Doesn't feel like Sheriden's other movies.

Glad most are enjoying it though. I definitely want the movie to succeed for Sheriden's sake.

TajMaballer said:

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I thought the ending was really bad. Kinda ruined the movie for me unfortunately. Doesn't feel like Sheriden's other movies.

Glad most are enjoying it though. I definitely want the movie to succeed for Sheriden's sake.

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Yeah thats how I felt.

The more I think about it, I really like the arcs presented to the main characters in this one. In the first movie, Matt & Alejandro are who they are. Kate is the wide eyed agent who is exposed to the horror and reality of the situation, but Matt & Alejandro stay the same as it's almost just another day for them.

In this one, Sheridan decides to flip all the main characters as the film goes on. Alejandro has the lynch pin that could get him potentially to Reyes for a brutal revenge, but his compassion for the situation and Isabel eventually flips his mindset this time and he in turn would rather risk capture or death to try and give the girl a chance.

Matt tries to stay true to the "dont' give a ****, just tell me where to be and what to do" all the way up to the point that he's now told he must kill the girl and Alejandro to 'clean up' the mess they made in Mexico. In the end, he flips and disobeys orders by bringing Isabel home.

We meet Isabel as the well-understood daughter of a cartel boss beating the **** out of a classmate at a very private school in Mexico City. She's so aware of who she is that she even wields power over the head of the school like a boss. However, when she's thrown into the world her dad operates in, she's mortified, and then ultimately becomes disassociated completely.

We meet Miguel looking like the compassionate older brother ensuring his little siblings get to school in what is clearly a poverish area of McAllen. He's then picked up by his cousin and eased into the idea of making money as a human smuggler across the border. He's hesitant at first, still clean cut...then he gets a taste of the money, and ultimately is the guy who shoots Alejandro after another young boy couldn't. It made him uncomfortable, and then we meet him a year later tatted up, fully into his new role with whatever respect comes with it, but the show ends as he walks into who knows what seeing the dead come back to life in Alejandro.

I really loved how well they did that with each character. What I hope going forward is that they don't have it set up to where Alejandro is training Miguel to be some assassin like him or anything. Because the way it ended, there's enough loose ends that they don't have to continue that storyline. We don't know what Matt's standing is with the gov't for breaking the order (assume they're still having him do their dirty work though). We don't know if Alejandro is in good standing with the US since he wasn't taken out.

We don't know if Isabel would be the connection to the 3rd film or if she's standalone for this movie.

I'd love something that ties it back together, but somehow Kate during all this time has worked the straight and narrow up through the ranks, so that in the 3rd, she's actually got a power position over Matt/Alejandro. Play the storyline out however, but make the climax be that she is keeping them contained as much as she can until it gets to a point of no return and she has make the call to let them "get dirty" but knowing that she is doing it because she knows that they'll get it done, and whatever feeling that comes with her ultimately accepting that this time it was her decision to have em do it.

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Sicario was a 9/10 for me. This was maybe a 6 but it had a lot of potential to be higher but the third act is really meh. They obviously are looking to do more films and this film really suffers due to that, IMO. Still some great scenes, but this is the first Sheridan script I feel meh about.

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This is exactly how I felt. The first two acts are some of the best filmmaking I've ever seen. It's 100% pure octane pedal-to-the-metal with incredibly tight shots and acting. Then it lets up and takes the easy way out with an obvious attempt to set up a sequel.

The shot of him walking up and assassinating the lawyer (shown in the trailers so not a spoiler) is epic in every manner. His walk, his shoes, the angle. Just perfection.

7/10 but it had a chance to be 10/10

CANNOT WAIT FOR THIS

I'm pretty easy to please with these types of movies

I just saw a comment on Reddit that only the first half of theovie was a Sheridan script. If that's true, then it explains a lot.

MBAR said:

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Sicario was a 9/10 for me. This was maybe a 6 but it had a lot of potential to be higher but the third act is really meh. They obviously are looking to do more films and this film really suffers due to that, IMO. Still some great scenes, but this is the first Sheridan script I feel meh about.

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This is pretty much how I felt. The first two acts are technically sound, procedural filmmaking that almost eclipses the near classic feel of the original. There's so much great stuff character and filmmaking-wise that it's kind of jarring to not have any kind of closure or resolution that they are obviously setting up for a sequel. Still, there's enough great stuff here to overcome the ending. 7/10

MBAR said:

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I just saw a comment on Reddit that only the first half of theovie was a Sheridan script. If that's true, then it explains a lot.

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Makes sense. Felt a huge drop off halfway through.

First half of the movie was awesome then it completely lost me. The first film is one of my all time faves. I still love the characters but the plot was a huge let down.

Why could Alejandro kill the Cartel leaders kid but suddenly refuses in this movie? Bc of his daughter? Not buying it.

Why did they EVER trust the Mexican police?? Seriously CIA goes from complete bad asses in the kid napping then lose all semblance of common sense.

The part when they're in the chopper "2 minutes" away in the pitch black but get to the objective and it's mid day??? How do the editors not catch that?

Despite the holes still enjoyed it.

Pilot said 15 minutes away and Brolin said "better make it 10"

I need to watch that scene again because I thought the exact same thing. Only way it "works" is if sun was coming up at that literal moment

Bunk Moreland said:

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Pilot said 15 minutes away and Brolin said "better make it 10"

I need to watch that scene again because I thought the exact same thing. Only way it "works" is if sun was coming up at that literal moment

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I think He says "2 minutes" shortly after that. It goes from 25 to 15/10 to 2 and the sun is up out of nowhere. I could be mistaken.

Not as good as the first but I liked it.

From a political standpoint it's amazing how close to home this movie hit. A movie with a plot that centers around illegals crossing the border. Wow, ironic.

At one point they directly discussed how cocaine is no longer the most lucrative product the cartel was pushing across the border, it's now people.


I too was a little disappointed with the characters showing a bit of their compassionate side. Was redeemed a bit when Brolin made the entire truck bed of guys stand up before wasting them all. I also love the realistic brutality of the movie... Main character bad guys don't even get special deaths. Pop pop he dead. Wow.