NukeAg10 said:
The positive out of all this is that bc of this season, breaking bad is now the number 1 rated tv show of all time on imdb. All hail the king.
NukeAg10 said:
The positive out of all this is that bc of this season, breaking bad is now the number 1 rated tv show of all time on imdb. All hail the king.
Swarely said:NukeAg10 said:
The positive out of all this is that bc of this season, breaking bad is now the number 1 rated tv show of all time on imdb. All hail the king.
Uhhh breaking bad is number 5. Chernobyl is number 1.
I can write a cool ending with nearly anyone 'winning' or anyone 'dying'Zombie Jon Snow said:
BOTH
Those that are ok with it are generally in your camp. Ok with the turns and ok with the end result and agree that it was mostly foreshadowed.
Then there are some very vocal ones that completely hated it and think the whole thing was ruined. They also think it was rushed but don't appreciate the end outcome or how we got there.
Hard to say percentage-wise I still insist the outright haters are a minority like was evident in our poll after E5 showed.
mm98 said:
I don't know. As I stated I'm in S2 right now and Dany is at Quarth. She loses her cool and threatened to "burn the city to the ground" no less than 2-3 times in S2 alone. It's Jorah that calms her down mostly.
She's not this super compassionate person that I gave her credit for. She reminds me of a SJW in today's politics...at least up to this point in S2. Compassion is present but If you're not with her ideology, she will go scorched earth...literally and figuratively.
Agreed. It's also, IMO, because Dany/Emelia are just so damn "wife zone". She's a lot like the AT&T chick in the commercials from a few years back where they hit gold on her. There was actual broad discussion about the AT&T girl and why those commercials with her were so popular. The obvious answer was obvious. For women, she isn't that intimidating. Yes, she is beautiful, but she is not Elle McPherson super model build and OMG I hate you for it. For dude's, she just looks like the hot girl next door and frankly, young and fertile. You get zoned in.Zombie Jon Snow said:mm98 said:
I don't know. As I stated I'm in S2 right now and Dany is at Quarth. She loses her cool and threatened to "burn the city to the ground" no less than 2-3 times in S2 alone. It's Jorah that calms her down mostly.
She's not this super compassionate person that I gave her credit for. She reminds me of a SJW in today's politics...at least up to this point in S2. Compassion is present but If you're not with her ideology, she will go scorched earth...literally and figuratively.
Exactly.
It was always there - they did a poor rushed job of showing the descent but...
from her point of view:
she basically sacrificed a dragon to enlist KL/Cersei and it amounted to nothing
Jorah died
Tyrion kept failing her and betrayed her at least twice
she lost another dragon
Missandei was killed
Varys betrayed her
even Grey Worm became overly hostile bent on revenge
and then Jon betrayed her and rejected her
add in the lack of any appreciation from anyone in Westeros and it was a recipe for disaster.
that's why there are those of us who say she always reacted with fire and blood. then her advisers would check her just enough to keep her from going over the edge. it was easier to judge her actions against other worse people as just but she also repeatedly threatened to do exactly what she did in the end - she always had to be talked into not doing it that way. and then all her advisers were either gone or she did not trust them.
that video comparing her to Cersei was one of the most intriguing. it showed her repeatedly threatening to do that and the way that she was raised and thought of herself as special (even god like) fed that ego.
the ends don't justify the means to a rational person - but she wasn't necessarily rational she had always just been held in check until the end.
nahUrban Ag said:Agreed. It's also, IMO, because Dany/Emelia are just so damn "wife zone". She's a lot like the AT&T chick in the commercials from a few years back where they hit gold on her. There was actual broad discussion about the AT&T girl and why those commercials with her were so popular. The obvious answer was obvious. For women, she isn't that intimidating. Yes, she is beautiful, but she is not Elle McPherson super model build and OMG I hate you for it. For dude's, she just looks like the hot girl next door and frankly, young and fertile. You get zoned in.Zombie Jon Snow said:mm98 said:
I don't know. As I stated I'm in S2 right now and Dany is at Quarth. She loses her cool and threatened to "burn the city to the ground" no less than 2-3 times in S2 alone. It's Jorah that calms her down mostly.
She's not this super compassionate person that I gave her credit for. She reminds me of a SJW in today's politics...at least up to this point in S2. Compassion is present but If you're not with her ideology, she will go scorched earth...literally and figuratively.
Exactly.
It was always there - they did a poor rushed job of showing the descent but...
from her point of view:
she basically sacrificed a dragon to enlist KL/Cersei and it amounted to nothing
Jorah died
Tyrion kept failing her and betrayed her at least twice
she lost another dragon
Missandei was killed
Varys betrayed her
even Grey Worm became overly hostile bent on revenge
and then Jon betrayed her and rejected her
add in the lack of any appreciation from anyone in Westeros and it was a recipe for disaster.
that's why there are those of us who say she always reacted with fire and blood. then her advisers would check her just enough to keep her from going over the edge. it was easier to judge her actions against other worse people as just but she also repeatedly threatened to do exactly what she did in the end - she always had to be talked into not doing it that way. and then all her advisers were either gone or she did not trust them.
that video comparing her to Cersei was one of the most intriguing. it showed her repeatedly threatening to do that and the way that she was raised and thought of herself as special (even god like) fed that ego.
the ends don't justify the means to a rational person - but she wasn't necessarily rational she had always just been held in check until the end.
Dany's character had all the warning signs there all along. But fans were smitten with her. So when she did go all SS/Taliban/Khmer Rouge/Whatever, people freaked out and complained there was no logical build up.
IMO of course.
PatAg said:
Some random person made a series of videos that basically shows every Jon Snow scene and each video covers one season. Pretty good watch. Show was great overall, regardless of how you feel about the last two seasons.
careful dude, the regulars are going to show up any minute and tell you how wrong your take is and the execution of ASOIAF by highly respected D&D directors is brilliant. You should probably delete your post.WelchAg said:
Once the night king and white walker story just ended abruptly, the show lost intrigue for me. That's part of why I still enjoyed season 7. That element of terror, the unknown, fear, etc. was so palpable for 7+ seasons. The fact they didn't make it further south in any form than Winterfell was disappointing.
In 3 episodes, the night king was killed, Cersei died from rocks, and kings landing fell. 3 episodes. 70 episodes of buildup and then someone comes up and kicks your magnificent tower of blocks down in seconds.
