****** Game of Thrones - Season 8 ******

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No one has commented that Jorah met his little sister for the first time ever, and they didn't show it on screen.
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I said this on the last page, but you can see when Bran is warging because the creature's eyes turn white. This happened with Summer, the ravens, Hodor, etc.
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Anyone else feel the White Walkers and their zombie hordes are lame villains? It's just another form of zombies. Nothing unique. Plus they all conveniently die when their "host" gets even slightly clipped by a magic blade, causing them to instantly shatter. The threat lacks originality and dramatic tension, imo.
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Render said:

Anyone else feel the White Walkers and their zombie hordes are lame villains? It's just another form of zombies. Nothing unique. Plus they all conveniently die when their "host" gets even slightly clipped by a magic blade, causing them to instantly shatter. The threat lacks originality and dramatic tension, imo.
Do you feel that any villian that is human lacks originality? After all 99.99% of the time they are human.
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I think they're great, partially because they aren't 'villains'. We don't really know what they want, or if they even want anything. This show has plenty of true villains.
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Render said:

Anyone else feel the White Walkers and their zombie hordes are lame villains? It's just another form of zombies. Nothing unique. Plus they all conveniently die when their "host" gets even slightly clipped by a magic blade, causing them to instantly shatter. The threat lacks originality and dramatic tension, imo.


No.
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from a micro perspective sure they're just zombies.

from a macro perspective that they are a swarming horde that basically takes over whatever town the conquer then the larger horde moves on to the next one and they can only be killed with a very specific weapon....well that's pretty dramatic and tensiony.
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StringerBell said:

from a micro perspective sure they're just zombies.

from a macro perspective that they are a swarming horde that basically takes over whatever town the conquer then the larger horde moves on to the next one and they can only be killed with a very specific weapon....well that's pretty dramatic and tensiony.
Even more terrifying is that they are organized and led like an army.
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OnlyForNow said:

No one has commented that Jorah met his little sister for the first time ever, and they didn't show it on screen.
cause they're cousins, not brother/sister
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Dude, obviously they're villains. They want to kill the living!
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aTmAg said:

Render said:

Anyone else feel the White Walkers and their zombie hordes are lame villains? It's just another form of zombies. Nothing unique. Plus they all conveniently die when their "host" gets even slightly clipped by a magic blade, causing them to instantly shatter. The threat lacks originality and dramatic tension, imo.
Do you feel that any villian that is human lacks originality? After all 99.99% of the time they are human.

Humans can have different motivations. So you have endless possibilities for villains, and some may not even feel like "villains". Meanwhile zombies are practically the same in whatever story they're in - people you care about are resurrected and they kill the living.
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StringerBell said:

from a micro perspective sure they're just zombies.

from a macro perspective that they are a swarming horde that basically takes over whatever town the conquer then the larger horde moves on to the next one and they can only be killed with a very specific weapon....well that's pretty dramatic and tensiony.

It just feels like I've seen it before. First in The Walking Dead, then in the Marvel movies with Thanos' various hive-mind armies. Lately it feels big entertainment all uses the same villain army tropes.

Not trying to hate. I'll just be more invested in the (more than likely) Northern vs Southern rematch war.
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I just want to know if the Night King can talk to living humans or will his communication be telepathic like the big dong blue guy from the Watchmen
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Render said:

aTmAg said:

Render said:

Anyone else feel the White Walkers and their zombie hordes are lame villains? It's just another form of zombies. Nothing unique. Plus they all conveniently die when their "host" gets even slightly clipped by a magic blade, causing them to instantly shatter. The threat lacks originality and dramatic tension, imo.
Do you feel that any villian that is human lacks originality? After all 99.99% of the time they are human.

Humans can have different motivations. So you have endless possibilities for villains, and some may not even feel like "villains". Meanwhile zombies are practically the same in whatever story they're in - people you care about are resurrected and they kill the living.
To me, prior to GoT, the most scary "zombies" by far was those in 28 days later. It's as if the writers tried to think of the worst possible case. Athletic zombies that turn living people into new zombies very quickly. Well in GoT, their "zombies" are as bad as those in 28DL, but they also happen to be organized into a cohesive 100,000+ man army. And since the books were written before 28DL, it can't be said that the books copied 28DL.

(And, BTW, they got giants and a dragon too)
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Render said:

Dude, obviously they're villains. They want to kill the living!
I have a suspicion that "killing the living" isn't really what they want. I also think it's probably worth some debate on if 'they' want anything, or if it's really just a 'him.'

Like, every army has someone leading it, but there sure doesn't seem to be the ability for mutiny in the army of the dead.
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i think in this case the zombies are no different than the dothraki or the unsullied. they're an army that's being used by a main player in the story.

so sure the zombies arent really interesting...but what's interesting is how and why the night king is using them to accomplish whatever his goal might be.
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They are cousins, not siblings.
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The children of the Forrest made the WW fo fight against men. So it appears they are just doing what they were originally made to do.
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StringerBell said:

i think in this case the zombies are no different than the dothraki or the unsullied. they're an army that's being used by a main player in the story.

so sure the zombies arent really interesting...but what's interesting is how and why the night king is using them to accomplish whatever his goal might be.

Nm. Jebber answered my questions.
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So the really big question is how does Jon/Sam/Bran break the news to the rest of the world that he is actually a Targ?
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Quote:

Samwell: My dog, Pongo?
Daenerys: Run over by a carriage.
Samwell: My goldfish, Goldie?
Daenerys: Eaten by the cat.
Samwell: My cat?
Daenerys: Choked on the goldfish.
I'm not gonna lie, I haven't laughed this hard in a while.
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https://gameofthrones.fandom.com/wiki/Night_King
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So is John Snow actually a cousin of Daenerys?
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wangus12 said:

So the really big question is how does Jon/Sam/Bran break the news to the rest of the world that he is actually a Targ?


Probably wait until during the Jamie Lannister trial and news dump it
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She's his aunt
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agrams said:

They are cousins, not siblings.

Ignore, I'm wrong. Can't keep up with all of these families
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wangus12 said:

So the really big question is how does Jon/Sam/Bran break the news to the rest of the world that he is actually a Targ?
Sam: "Whew, what a battle, eh Aegon?"
Jon: *sideways glance at Sam
Dany: "What now?"
Sam: "uh, hmm? Nothing?"
Dany: "Why did he just call you Aegon?"
Jon: "Sam get's a little carried away. He hasn't slept much."
Sam: "The Old maester at castle black was called Aegon. I am a bit tired."
Bran: "We don't have time for this. Jon is really Aegon Targaryen, son of Lyanna Stark and your brother Rhaegar. He's the rightful king."
Jon: "Bran!"
Dany: *retches..."your my nephew...we had..." *retching continues
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Chalupa Batman said:

agrams said:

They are cousins, not siblings.

She's his niece
daughter
Granddaughter
Mom
Grandma
Have we covered them all now???
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Jorah's dad (Joer) was the brother of Lyanna's Mother (Maege)... hence cousins

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Chalupa Batman said:

agrams said:

They are cousins, not siblings.

She's his niece

Lyanna Mormont is Jorah's first cousin. She's Jeor Mormont's niece.
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Marcus Aurelius said:

So is John Snow actually a cousin of Daenerys?

She's his aunt.

His father is her brother - Rhaegar.

Daenerys was MUCH younger than her brother Rhaegar. In fact he was actually dead before she was born.

So Jon/Aegon and Dany are very close in age - using show years he is slightly older.

Her brother Rhaegar died at the age of 22 something in the battle of the Trident in 281 during part of Roberts Rebellion.

Lyanna gave birth to Jon/Aegon shortly after that at the Tower of Joy either late 281 or early 282.

And Rhaegar's mother Rhaella gave birth to Dany in 282 - her mother died in childbirth and she as a baby and her older brother Viserys (age 6) went into exile escaping from Dragonstone to Essos.

Robert and House Lannister murdered Rhaegar's wife Ellia Martell and their two children Rhaenys and Aegon when they sacked King's Landing. So it was assumed they would kill the Targ children too - that is why they fled.

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I guess you would know thanks. Aunt and nephew. Wow. GOT.
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wangus12 said:

So the really big question is how does Jon/Sam/Bran break the news to the rest of the world that he is actually a Targ?
My guess is Jon tells Dany but they decide keep it under wraps until after the war. Jon asks Sam to please not tell anyone, and Sam reluctantly agrees.

Either that or Jon doesn't tell anyone, but still asks Sam not to say anything.
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Thanks to all on clearing up the Mormont stuff. I thought that Lyanna was Joer's last kid before taking the black.

Anyways, back to rest of the story.

Potential spoiler below, like legit read it on a website...

You've beeen warned.

anyone think or read that Cersi is going through menopause and that's why she hasn't bled on a while? I think this has some legs.
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https://www.instagram.com/oystersclamscockles/p/BwSZkr-HuIh/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=u6d9nzp9s0yt

Can't get it to embed for some reason
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