Carrie Fisher's autopsy results revealed that she had cocaine, methadone, heroine, and ecstasy in her system. She was literally flying high when she died on the plane.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-carrie-fisher-autopsy-report-20170619-story.html

Damn it, Carrie.

Is this a surprise to anyone?

Junkhead said:

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Is this a surprise to anyone?

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No

Shocked? No.

Saddened? Yes.

Moron

Hulla Baller said:

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Moron

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Addict does not mean you're a moron. Hope you don't have a kid who is an addict. The internet does make you sound tough though. I'll give you that.

Hulla Baller said:

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Moron

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As a recovering addict myself, I can assure you it's not about being a "moron". These things get control of you and, if not for my wife, I'd be dead today.

Addiction is a powerful and sad thing.

Presley OBannons Sword said:

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Addiction is a powerful and sad thing.

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So true. Awful what drugs do to people.

Hulla Baller said:

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Moron

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Do you understand addiction?

So basically a slow Tuesday for Carrie Fisher?

RPM said:

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No one would give two craps if she had never been in Star Wars.

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And nobody, outside of family and friends, would "give two craps" about John F. Kennedy being shot if he weren't president. Famous people dying will always garner more attention than some regular person on the street. It doesn't make their death any less tragic though.

Her family and friends would.

Regardless, what's your point?

Are we not supposed to feel a connection to actors we love? Should we not care about people we otherwise wouldn't know? What are you hoping to accomplish with that post?

I liked her in that role.

I knew she had substance issues but really no idea the extent.

And yet, here you are.

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Her cause of death was listed as sleep apnea with other factors.

Drug use can exacerbate sleep apnea with potentially fatal results

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Was in a galaxy far far away all along

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RetiredAg said:

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RPM said:

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No one would give two craps if she had never been in Star Wars.

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And nobody, outside of family and friends, would "give two craps" about John F. Kennedy being shot if he weren't president. Famous people dying will always garner more attention than some regular person on the street. It doesn't make their death any less tragic though.

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allow me to laugh my ass off at your straw man argument.

If you can't see the absurdity of comparing a president getting assassinated to the death of a habitual drug using acctress, I won't be wasting time arguing.

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The point is that people "care" when famous people die. Why? Because they're famous. Whether they're famous for acting in a movie or being president, the point is people "care" because they've actually heard of them. Your original statement is silly because it applies to anyone that is famous, regardless of why they're famous.

People make these kind of painfully obvious statements as if they're offering some deep insight. Of course people wouldn't talk about this or "care", outside her friends/family, if she weren't famous. We would have no clue who she was. That was my point with JFK. Had he died in WW2, his family would have cared, but to everyone else, he'd have never even really individually registered with them. But, he did when he was famous.

So congrats on your "insight". The real point, though, is that famous or not, her death is sad. Drug addiction is horrible, and even if she weren't famous, she left behind people that suffer. Her celebrity status doesn't make it any more of less tragic.

Junkhead said:

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Is this a surprise to anyone?

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To me, kind of.

She still had so much to live for. Her daughter. Friends and family. An adoring fan base. And after 30 years she had to incredible opportunity to truly be on the world's stage again as Princess Leia, truly one of the most beloved cinematic characters in history.

When I was younger I might have gone along with some of the "well, don't do drugs dummy" comments but time has certainly changed me. 20 years ago I'd have probably held some level of disdain. But at 43, it just makes me sad. I don't look at her as any less of a person because of how she died. She had a wonderful and yet very painful life at the same time. She clearly could never find peace. Sad.

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Junkhead said:

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Is this a surprise to anyone?

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To me, kind of.

She still had so much to live for. Her daughter. Friends and family. An adoring fan base. And after 30 years she had to incredible opportunity to truly be on the world's stage again as Princess Leia, truly one of the most beloved cinematic characters in history.

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Not far off from chris Cornell. Kids/Family, revered by his industry peers, love by millions of fans, successful across multiple avenues in music, soundgarden fired up and successful again after 15 yearhiatus.

Boom, suicide.

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Hulla Baller said:

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Moron

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Addict does not mean you're a moron. Hope you don't have a kid who is an addict. The internet does make you sound tough though. I'll give you that.

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I would counter that trying cocaine once would make you a moron. Getting addicted to pain killers is something else, but getting hooked on hard drugs began with a conscience stupid decision.

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Hulla Baller said:

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Moron

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As a recovering addict myself, I can assure you it's not about being a "moron". These things get control of you and, if not for my wife, I'd be dead today.

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My wife is in a 3 month treatment program in North Carolina right now for opiate addiction. She was an A-student neurobiology major at t.u. and got her doctorate and has had a job since she was 14 or 15 and I envy her work ethic. She is certainly not a moron but she has been through certain things in her life that left her battling depression on and off and I guess over time she chose to self medicate. Toughest thing I've ever had to deal with and has been beyond eye opening. Would not wish it on anyone.

To be fair to the person who called her a "moron". I used to think this way and I think a lot of people do, until they have to deal with a loved one struggling with chemical dependency.

All that being said...that's a pretty crazy combination of drugs Carrie was on...I can't imagine.

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wesag said:

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Hulla Baller said:

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Moron

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Addict does not mean you're a moron. Hope you don't have a kid who is an addict. The internet does make you sound tough though. I'll give you that.

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I would counter that trying cocaine once would make you a moron. Getting addicted to pain less is something else, but getting hooked on hard drugs began with a conscience stupid decision.

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You know how many high-IQ Fortune 500 execs have tried cocaine or other drugs at some point in their lives? Most people don't get addicted to substances even after using them socially. I get that doing cocaine is illegal and not smart (guess you could say "moronic")...but I don't think someone who tries it is a moron for the rest of their lives.

JFF thinks Carrie Fisher had a problem

I know that heroin and opiates are highly addictive. Therefore, I would never touch them. I also benefited from the 1980s anti drug campaign and I wouldn't do coke.

This woman was deeply troubled.

Philip J Fry said:

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wesag said:

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Hulla Baller said:

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Moron

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Addict does not mean you're a moron. Hope you don't have a kid who is an addict. The internet does make you sound tough though. I'll give you that.

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I would counter that trying cocaine once would make you a moron. Getting addicted to pain less is something else, but getting hooked on hard drugs began with a conscience stupid decision.

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Getting addicted to pain meds and staying on them is more difficult than obtaining heroin or coke now.

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RetiredAg said:

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RPM said:

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No one would give two craps if she had never been in Star Wars.

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And nobody, outside of family and friends, would "give two craps" about John F. Kennedy being shot if he weren't president. Famous people dying will always garner more attention than some regular person on the street. It doesn't make their death any less tragic though.

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allow me to laugh my ass off at your straw man argument.

If you can't see the absurdity of comparing a president getting assassinated to the death of a habitual drug using acctress, I won't be wasting time arguing.

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Fine. No great loss to this thread to have an a-hole not show up again.

I was given morphine after surgery and, man, I get it now. That stuff was great. Scarily so. Probably will deny it if prescribed again.

I'll add that I don't think ecstasy is addictive. So, there was a lot more going on here than just addiction. She had a major dark side. /no pun

I feel for her family. there was really no need to publicize this now.

That level of drug mixing says to me "I took everything in my possession"

...not looking for a a high or to satiate, looking to get knocked out even if it meant for good.

Why are these things always made public?

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Why are these things always made public?

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I always wondered the same. You'd think HIPAA would prevent that.. it's medical information after all.

Sadly, it took me becoming an addict to understand addiction. It really put me in my place and I wouldn't wish that on anyone.