May need to start a separate thread about this episode. I need someone to discuss with
Game of Thrones - Season 7
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Interesting how people can watch and read the same things and come to such different conclusions. I don't think it's obvious at all and would be stunned if he turns out to be one. Not saying it couldn't happen - this is a show with a lot of moving parts - but I would consider it totally out of left field, especially on the show (the books have just a few more clues, none of which in my opinion are very convincing).BallerStaf2003 said:Carl Underguard said:
I've never gotten the Tyrion Targaryen stuff. That scene with the dragons happens to a different character in the books. And honestly, I don't want him to be one. First Jon now Tyrion? That's too cute.
I think It's pretty obvious that he is a Targaryen
Thematically, I'm with the posters above that it cheapens the characters, so to speak, if all that's required to be a "hero of the story" is a single drop of Targaryan blood. Dany is the actual Targaryian heir and legal, rightful heir to the throne if she can take it. Jon's parentage of being half Ice and half Fire will probably come into play during the Long Night but I don't think his being Rhaegar's son will make any difference to the throne and I seriously doubt that his parentage will become common knowledge except up North/as part of the battle with the Walkers. But Tyrion being a Targaryion ******* doesn't do much at all, except maybe get him on the back of a dragon more easily? I don't see it and don't see how it adds any value to his story arc or character.
Me too!
I agree that a drop of Targaryen blood making you a hero is a little lame. Although Viserys definitely wouldn't fit the bill there.
Two things confirmed it for me that he will be revealed as a Targaryen on the show:
1) Tywin saying "since I cannot prove you are not mine" to Tyrion when putting him on the front lines.
2) The random scene of him going into the crypt to see the dragons and not being devoured despite them never having seen him.
Couple that with his obsession (in the books) with fire and dragons as a kid, white streaks of hair and one purple eye and it's painfully obvious.
Two things confirmed it for me that he will be revealed as a Targaryen on the show:
1) Tywin saying "since I cannot prove you are not mine" to Tyrion when putting him on the front lines.
2) The random scene of him going into the crypt to see the dragons and not being devoured despite them never having seen him.
Couple that with his obsession (in the books) with fire and dragons as a kid, white streaks of hair and one purple eye and it's painfully obvious.
Did you get t via torrent?
If you follow the reddit rabbit hole (freefolk) it's available via viemo
Onlyfornow knows what's up
I'm sorry and promise to be good from now onSasappis said:plowboy1065 said:
May need to start a separate thread about this episode. I need someone to discuss with
You go sit in the corner by yourself and think about what you have done.
So he likes fire, dragons, dragons liked him, his mom was probably getting boinked by the mad king, physical descriptions, cryptic statements, etc, then there is the other painfully obvious factors.BallerStaf2003 said:
I agree that a drop of Targaryen blood making you a hero is a little lame. Although Viserys definitely wouldn't fit the bill there.
Two things confirmed it for me that he will be revealed as a Targaryen on the show:
1) Tywin saying "since I cannot prove you are not mine" to Tyrion when putting him on the front lines.
2) The random scene of him going into the crypt to see the dragons and not being devoured despite them never having seen him.
Couple that with his obsession (in the books) with fire and dragons as a kid, white streaks of hair and one purple eye and it's painfully obvious.
Tyrion's mom died in childbirth. So did Jon's. So did Dany's.
The Targaryen sigil is a dragon with three heads - Dany, Jon, Tyrion
Three dragons were hatched
I'm not sold on it. Just seems too painfully obvious that it's a mis-direction. But then again, R+L+J seemed to become painfully obvious as well and it turned out to be the case.
Not a big deal to me. As someone else noted, it doesn't really change or add much here. IMO
holy crap that ending...
Damn and I have 3 hours to kill at the office.BurnetAggie99 said:
Leaked Video Working Link - Stay Away if you don't want to know yet
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You stop with that!!!! Mommmmmmm!!!!!!dromo07 said:
holy crap that ending...
Was legit
BurnetAggie99 said:
Leaked Video Working Link - Stay Away if you don't want to know yet
https://vimeo.com/228359963
and... its gone
Goes without saying but, no spoilers till after actual air date please.
Justice will be swift those who cross the line
I couldn't not watch...
I believe Tyrion's eyes are green and black, not violet.
Anyway, I don't like it but can see it being the eventual outcome. I am much more ambivalent about the Game of Thrones universe (tv series and books) than most on this board (and elsewhere as far as I can tell). If it is the outcome, I'll live with it.
Anyway, I don't like it but can see it being the eventual outcome. I am much more ambivalent about the Game of Thrones universe (tv series and books) than most on this board (and elsewhere as far as I can tell). If it is the outcome, I'll live with it.
Thanks for the link
Nor could I.
I feel like I committed a terrible crime watching that it in such low quality.
So ready for Sunday
I feel like I committed a terrible crime watching that it in such low quality.
So ready for Sunday
Nevermind. I figured out how to get to the episode. I initially only saw the test pattern on the video with an awful sound. I just had to go forward further.
The real logistical issue with Tyrion being a Targ is that there isn't any way to reveal it, outside of Bran going back in time and watching King Arys bang Tyrion's mom. I mean, there was significance to the TER taking Bran to the Tower of Joy scene, both in explaining to Bran how his time travel works and exploring the interesting family secrets related to Jon. It works because the reveal is who the mother is.
But the old TER knew exactly where to take Bran. Without him, Bran isn't going to just "stumble" upon a secret hookup 9 months before Tyrion was born and be able to prove who the father was.
But the old TER knew exactly where to take Bran. Without him, Bran isn't going to just "stumble" upon a secret hookup 9 months before Tyrion was born and be able to prove who the father was.
It would be exceptionally uncool to post spoilers here.wangus12 said:
Justice will be swift those who cross the line
And I have no intentions of posting any. Just because I have no self-control doesn't mean I'll spoil anything nor pass anything off as an "estimation."
Basically, I'm not a dick....regardless of my username
Basically, I'm not a dick....regardless of my username
I couldn't help myself either. I watched it. It was awesome can't wait to watch again Sunday in HD on my big screen.
Man..........this episode is amazing. So much to discuss. Might as well get started......
Drogon......can breathe fire
Emilia Clark is so freakin hot with long white blonde hair
Varys doesn't have a unit. WTF?
Jamie only has one hand
That Bronn, man, what a smartass
Pod is a darn good squire, so loyal
I post more later as time permits. Wow. Amazing episode so glad I got to see it early.
Man..........this episode is amazing. So much to discuss. Might as well get started......
Drogon......can breathe fire
Emilia Clark is so freakin hot with long white blonde hair
Varys doesn't have a unit. WTF?
Jamie only has one hand
That Bronn, man, what a smartass
Pod is a darn good squire, so loyal
I post more later as time permits. Wow. Amazing episode so glad I got to see it early.
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Emilia Clark is so freakin hot with long white blonde hair
Oh wait, I forgot two other really, really key points I missed. Major plot points.
Bran can't walk
I really, really think Littlefinger is up to something. Can't trust that guy!
Bran can't walk
I really, really think Littlefinger is up to something. Can't trust that guy!
That's my main issue with it, too. To introduce that out of nowhere would be ridiculous. And it would spoil a big reveal from the books that may actually be done better, if it is done.
I watched. I feel great.