Ah yes Thank You!

ChipFTAC01 said:

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Pretty sure HBO has come straight out and said the spinoff won't be directly related to the characters in the show. So no Robert's Rebellion. More world building, historical record.

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I'd love them to do the Long Night

I disagree. I think too big of a deal has been made about the sword "Dawn" and I think that sword has a role to play. I suspect somehow Jon gets this sword and returns his current sword to house Mormont. Book wise, dawn is back with the Daynes. Additionally, it was forged from a meteorite and it always glows a pale white I believe.

I wonder if in the TV version it is down in the cyrpts to help link Jon's parentage. I also like to think that when Jon unsheaths it it will glow like fire, aka Lightbringer.

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another angry ag said:

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I'm curious as to why Tyrion didn't verify who was running the show in the North before planning two separate attacks on opposite coasts of Westeros. Was there something I missed? Feel like you'd want to pin down who the North was loyal to before launching an assault on Casterly Rock and laying siege on King's Landing.

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I'd imagine because the North had been a mess for years. The Boltons only started to get the overt support of the largest Northern houses in season 6, and fighting with Robb had drained their manpower. That and they'd have to get to the Riverlands on foot before they could reach Casterly Rock or King's Landing.

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That makes sense to me. I guess it would be easy for Dany's squad to track any movements from the North towards King's Landing and/or Casterly Rock since it bottlenecks before any formidable force from the North could go undetected on the King's Road. I guess we can assume they weren't planning on too long of a siege against King's Landing. Appreciate the reply, seems like Tyrion knew the North would be a non-factor in the immediate plans regardless of who was in charge.

I'm curious to see who was ruling Dorne in the Sandsnake Co.'s absense. Doesn't seem realistic that they would be out of the fight unless there was a civil war of sorts.

From one of the links earlier in this thread, GRRM stated no D & E on HBO, as he wasn't finished with the stories from that line, and wanted to tell them without the pressure of meeting television schedules. I enjoyed those stories and would love to see them produced on TV.

lurker76 said:

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From one of the links earlier in this thread, GRRM stated no D & E on HBO, as he wasn't finished with the stories from that line, and wanted to tell them without the pressure of meeting television schedules. I enjoyed those stories and would love to see them produced on TV.

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According to James Hibberd on the EW GOT podcast, multiple proposals are being prepared. But definitely not Robert's Rebellion and not D&E. The reasoning for not doing the Rebellion is that it is the backstory for GOT and it has already been covered. The characters refer to events in the Rebellion frequently. So HBO wants to tell new stories that haven't been written yet. That includes D&E, unfortunately.

No mention of "Dawn", true. However a lot of "product placement" that seems totally unnecessary if it didn't matter. An effort was made to show the hilt before the fight at the ToJ when Dayne sticks it into the ground and again when Ned placed the sword against the bed inside.

What is D & E? I don't know what this refers to.....

Dunk and Egg. The characters covered in the Knight of the seven kingdoms short stories.

benchmark said:

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What is D & E? I don't know what this refers to.....

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The three stories have been combined in the book A Knight of the Seven kingdoms... The third story combined with book 5 of the main story tell you who the three eyed crow is

Dawn is not valaryian steel right? Isn't it made from a meteorite or something? Don't think it will be helpful against WW

Malcolm52 said:

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Dawn is not valaryian steel right? Isn't it made from a meteorite or something? Don't think it will be helpful against WW

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the others bring the Long Night; I think it's safe to hypothesize that a sword named Dawn may have some part to play in that battle.

I want to see the two swords melted down from the Starks family sword reforged and returned to the starks.

RDV-1992 said:

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I want to see the two swords melted down from the Starks family sword reforged and returned to the starks.

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Who has those? Brienne has one. Is the other still in King's Landing?

Last we saw of it was Tywin giving it to Joffrey, afaik.

Brienne has oathkeeper and cersi has widows wail (Joffrey's sword that was passed to Tommen). I'd bet that the mountain ends up with it though before he dies.

It'd be like needle I guess, since it was made for a kid. But it's still valierian steel.

And like Tywin, no way Cersei would waste it on an animal like the mountain. Living or dead.

Pretty sure Jaime was carrying it in episode 1.

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ChipFTAC01 said:

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Pretty sure HBO has come straight out and said the spinoff won't be directly related to the characters in the show. So no Robert's Rebellion. More world building, historical record.

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D&E.

book it.

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I think they have already said it won't be Dunk and Egg.

I thought all of this was discussed when Jaime and Bronn started training together, Jaime had WW and wanted to train with it, Bronn told him "if you use an edged sword, I'll have to use an edged sword, and I'll be out of a job. Although that valerian sword is lighter...blahblahblah."

That was Oathkeeper.

Ok so I re-watched. Who the hell is dickon tarly. Sam doesn't have a brother....

OnlyForNow said:

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Ok so I re-watched. Who the hell is dickon tarly. Sam doesn't have a brother....

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I thought he did? Wasn't he at the dinner and had been hunting that day...I assume he's the younger brother and that's the reason that Sam got sent off to the nights watch so that his brother could get the castle

Maybe that's what's wrong with it.

But I could have sworn that he doesn't have a brother in the books and the dad was just fine with sending him off to NW anyways and letting his sisters husband take over hornhill.

It's really annoying when they can't keep actors for even minor characters like Dickon Tarly.