I imagine if they can get over wildlings they can get over a mixed blood kid they've already sworn fealty to.
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quote:Too little too late at this point, I think they would rally behind him in order to usurp Cersei. He's a Northerner, they'd like a Northerner on the throne.
So Jon is a Targ. Ned's father and brother were killed by a Targ and the North fought against the Targs during Robert's rebellion, right? So what happens if/when the North finds out about Jon being a Targ?
They hid his identity to protect him during the immediate aftermaths of the war and from Robert Baratheon.
My guess is Melissandre will also meet up again with the Brotherhood in some round about way. And don't forget she is on Ayra's list.
Speaking of which, anyone have a guess for the future of the Hound? He was the only major character we didn't see tonight. A little odd that they gave him an episode this season when we still don't really know what his story holds. I guess we can still get Clegane bowl in some round about way, just not in the style of the popular internet theory.
I think the Cersei/Jamie storyline will be an exact retelling of his slaying of the mad King. That's the kind of symmetry this show loves. Dany and her forces are at the gates of King's Landing, Cersei is already insane at this point (maybe wanting to burn them all as well -- Brann's dragon vision had KL's on fire. Still more to come), and Jamie stabs her in the back, literally. That fulfills the prophecy, seems to fit Jamie's character and cruel nature of the show, and maybe Tyrion and Jamie get to fight on the same side after all
Speaking of which, anyone have a guess for the future of the Hound? He was the only major character we didn't see tonight. A little odd that they gave him an episode this season when we still don't really know what his story holds. I guess we can still get Clegane bowl in some round about way, just not in the style of the popular internet theory.
I think the Cersei/Jamie storyline will be an exact retelling of his slaying of the mad King. That's the kind of symmetry this show loves. Dany and her forces are at the gates of King's Landing, Cersei is already insane at this point (maybe wanting to burn them all as well -- Brann's dragon vision had KL's on fire. Still more to come), and Jamie stabs her in the back, literally. That fulfills the prophecy, seems to fit Jamie's character and cruel nature of the show, and maybe Tyrion and Jamie get to fight on the same side after all
This is pretty random, but about a million years ago GRRM was planning to call the final book in the series A Time for Wolves. Which gives me hope that the Starks will manage to hang together despite Littlefingers machinations.
Also, I hope all this nonsense about Jon marrying Dany will stop. Because in about 8 years he better marry Lyanna Mormont or he's an idiot.
Also, I hope all this nonsense about Jon marrying Dany will stop. Because in about 8 years he better marry Lyanna Mormont or he's an idiot.
quote:We now have our absolute hero to rally behind.quote:
So Jon is a Targ. Ned's father and brother were killed by a Targ and the North fought against the Targs during Robert's rebellion, right? So what happens if/when the North finds out about Jon being a Targ?
Jon is a son of the north who is true to his heritage. His parentage will have no negative impact in the north.
In fact he now is the clear white knight to the evil in cerci.
"Well where are they then? Trimming their cvnt hairs?"
Hahahaha.
Hahahaha.
And Bran needs some damn ravens. Can't Meera warg into some to bring them hither and send word to Jon and Sansa.
He's ALIVE.
He's ALIVE.
Lyanna def said his name was Aegon. Read her lips.
quote:I'll have to watch it again tomorrow.
Lyanna def said his name was Aegon. Read her lips.
Aegon Targaryen is a cool ****in name.
Why would Lyanna name her child Aegon when Rhaegar's existing son was already named Aegon? That seems confusing. Granted, Baby Aegon was dead by then but it still seems confusing.
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This got cheers/applause.
Maybe it's like the Greeks...."...these are my sons Nick, Nicholas, Nickey, and Nikki."
Unless she whispered "He is Rhaegar's..." There is definitely a word with a g.
Rewound. I swear she mouths "his name is" and then the word with a g. It was 2 syllables. Couldn't have been Targaryian. Then you audibly hear, "Robert will kill him..."
Unless she whispered "He is Rhaegar's..." There is definitely a word with a g.
Rewound. I swear she mouths "his name is" and then the word with a g. It was 2 syllables. Couldn't have been Targaryian. Then you audibly hear, "Robert will kill him..."
Soooo Danaerys is Jon Snow's aunt?
quote:Did Rhaegar and Ellia have a child named Aegon in the show? If not, Aegon and Jon's stories could be merging in the show kinda-sorta.
Why would Lyanna name her child Aegon when Rhaegar's existing son was already named Aegon? That seems confusing. Granted, Baby Aegon was dead by then but it still seems confusing.
I felt bad for Tommen. Still innocent, in a way, and trying his best after Joffrey's ****ed up ****-show of a performance. Got swept up in the "Great Game". Can't imagine Tyrion will be happy when he hears about his nephews fate and who, semi, caused it.
quote:Yes.
Soooo Danaerys is Jon Snow's aunt?
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Best episode ever.
I'll go one further - best episode in the history of television.
If you're "nitpicking" this, then somebody should kick you in the nutts. And yes, that includes Varys on the Dany's ship. That was obviously the director/producers reminding everyone that the timelines do NOT sync up.
I honestly don't know why that is o hard to understand or get over.
Sooo glad to see Jon finally get his moment. Dude deserves it of anybody on the show does.
I'll go one further - best episode in the history of television.
If you're "nitpicking" this, then somebody should kick you in the nutts. And yes, that includes Varys on the Dany's ship. That was obviously the director/producers reminding everyone that the timelines do NOT sync up.
I honestly don't know why that is o hard to understand or get over.
Sooo glad to see Jon finally get his moment. Dude deserves it of anybody on the show does.
Someone on Reddit commented:
The lamp/light in the Library in Oldtown was the thingie at the end of the opening credits.
The lamp/light in the Library in Oldtown was the thingie at the end of the opening credits.
stupid YouTube.
click on the damn YouTube shield in bottom right to get it to play....
Was watching the King in the North scene again and it looked like the Knights of the Vale joined the chant like the Riverlords did for Robb in Season 1. Did someone tell that epileptic imbecile Robert Arryn?
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"A man without a belly is like a house without a balcony"
- Old Turkish saying
"A man without a belly is like a house without a balcony"
- Old Turkish saying
quote:it better be.
So the whole Prince that was Promised has to be Jon right? "Born beneath a bleeding star." Ned lays Dawn, made from the heart of a fallen star, against the bed of Lyanna. And Lyanna repeats promise me Ned over and over.
The whole thing of Dany being it instead just pisses me off.
So does this mean Jon can be unburnt? Maybe an episode where he accidentally falls in fire and comes out ok...
#mindblown
#mindblown
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There were three ways the guests of the Red Wedding were killed: by crossbow fire, by being stabbed in the gut, and by having their throats slit.
Tywin Lannister was killed by crossbow fire. Roose Bolton was stabbed in the gut. Walder Frey had his throat slit.
You're absolutely right. You reap what you sow.
Stolen from reddit.
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stupid YouTube.
click on the damn YouTube shield in bottom right to get it to play....
-_-
Take it to the humor thread.
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So the whole Prince that was Promised has to be Jon right? "Born beneath a bleeding star." Ned lays Dawn, made from the heart of a fallen star, against the bed of Lyanna. And Lyanna repeats promise me Ned over and over.
what of the salt and smoke mentioned in the prophecy? iirc the prince that was promised does not necessarily mean azor ahai. I can't remember how the show has treated it, but my feeling in the books is dany = PTWP and jon = AA
quote:Yep. It will take Littlefinger about 10 minutes of manipulation to have the North and the KotV turn on Jon. Littlefinger can't be trusted but he's a winner - he's undefeated in the show. Jon Snow/Blackfyre is a 3 time loser (bailed out by Stannis, Melisandre, KotV).
Hot take: this is going to come down to Varys vs Littlefinger in the end. Everyone else is just pawns in their game. They've been at the center of everything so far, beginning in King's Landing on the council, and now they have control of Dany and the South (Varys) vs the North and the Vale (Littlefinger). They are the only ones that can tie all the houses together -- Varys now has Dany, Dorne and Highgarden. Littlefinger after tonight can manipulate all of the houses in the North with the King of the North via Sansa (my thought is he can and will still unknowingly manipulate her) as well as the Vale.
And Littlefinger is on the record now saying what he really wants - the iron throne with Sansa at his side
quote:No, he burned his hands in season 1 when throwing that lantern at the wight
So does this mean Jon can be unburnt? Maybe an episode where he accidentally falls in fire and comes out ok...
#mindblown
This episode proves it doesn't matter if he is a *******, he is a Targ and they will follow him.
My prediction:
Bran comes in and tells the story. People are suspicious, but John will Lead a battle against Dany. She will land Drogon right in front of him, blast him with fire. All that will be there is a naked alive John and a flaming valirian sword. Battle ends and John and Dany are united.
My prediction:
Bran comes in and tells the story. People are suspicious, but John will Lead a battle against Dany. She will land Drogon right in front of him, blast him with fire. All that will be there is a naked alive John and a flaming valirian sword. Battle ends and John and Dany are united.
quote:Sansa is clearly behind Jon and doesn't trust Littlefinger. She is concerned about what LF will do to cause Jon's downfall, so I think she will reverse course and choose to be with LF in order to protect Jon. She's certainly not innocent anymore, so she will probably go as far as seducing LF and maybe even helping him do some bad stuff (please make Sweetrobin fly!), all so she can gain his trust and ultimately turn the tables on him. The student will become the master. LF will die, Jon will rule the north, and Sansa will end up running the Vale.quote:Yep. It will take Littlefinger about 10 minutes of manipulation to have the North and the KotV turn on Jon. Littlefinger can't be trusted but he's a winner - he's undefeated in the show. Jon Snow/Blackfyre is a 3 time loser (bailed out by Stannis, Melisandre, KotV).
Hot take: this is going to come down to Varys vs Littlefinger in the end. Everyone else is just pawns in their game. They've been at the center of everything so far, beginning in King's Landing on the council, and now they have control of Dany and the South (Varys) vs the North and the Vale (Littlefinger). They are the only ones that can tie all the houses together -- Varys now has Dany, Dorne and Highgarden. Littlefinger after tonight can manipulate all of the houses in the North with the King of the North via Sansa (my thought is he can and will still unknowingly manipulate her) as well as the Vale.
And Littlefinger is on the record now saying what he really wants - the iron throne with Sansa at his side
I think the Sansa look at LF at the end of their scene is Sansa's recognition that she has to marry Robert Aaryn to get rid of LF's influence. She knows he'll do anything, so she has to be willing to sacrifice.
Until that point in time LF has that kid in his back pocket.
Until that point in time LF has that kid in his back pocket.
quote:I dig the idea of Jon's Targ blood being revealed by a blast of Drogon's fire. I would love to see that, but I think it's a longshot.
This episode proves it doesn't matter if he is a *******, he is a Targ and they will follow him.
My prediction:
Bran comes in and tells the story. People are suspicious, but John will Lead a battle against Dany. She will land Drogon right in front of him, blast him with fire. All that will be there is a naked alive John and a flaming valirian sword. Battle ends and John and Dany are united.
I think Sam/Tyrion will somehow prevent or at least, delay an all-out war between Dany and Jon, Bran will show up at just the right time to reveal the truth about Jon's parents, and then Aunt Dany and Jon will team up to take on the Whitewalkers.
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