Think they're taking stock in how the show has portrayed spies/informants being everywhere. The show has hinted at how easy it is for information, especially info about such a sizable force such as the Vale Army, to get around.

It's not an unreasonable line of thinking given the turmoil of what the North has been going through, especially when Ramsay says "I've been hearing stories about you" or whatever he said, to Jon at the parlay the day before the battle.

Word gets around in the show. No drones needed.

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Think they're taking stock in how the show has portrayed spies/informants being everywhere. The show has hinted at how easy it is for information, especially info about such a sizable force such as the Vale Army, to get around.

It's not an unreasonable line of thinking given the turmoil of what the North has been going through, especially when Ramsay says "I've been hearing stories about you" or whatever he said, to Jon at the parlay the day before the battle.

Word gets around in the show. No drones needed.

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True, but this is Littlefinger we are talking about. If anybody can avoid being spotted, it would be him.

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I know this is out of left field but is Yara bi/gay in the books? If there were hints at it I missed it, you can tell she's a tomboy at minimum. But I don't recall anything specific in the books. Her scene with Dany, the "I'm up for anything." line is what makes me ask. That and the non spoiler thread...

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Young should go back a couple of episodes and watch the scene where she snacks on a boob at a brothel before making poor Theon cry.

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Post was asking about the BOOKS. I recall no hints at all in the books. This is pure TV.

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I'm pretty sure she is openly heterosexual in the books and hooks up with several guys. I don't recall any hints as to her even being bisexual. Her demeanor is more masculine since she is the captain of a ship. If I remember correctly, she thinks about the issues of her gender and is annoyed by the more "romantic" guys, but that's about it.

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I loved this battle... But the lack of Ghost was unconvincing and super disappointing. This is Jon's biggest battle yet, and he doesn't have his direwolf by his side?? While they take Winterfell back? It doesn't ruin the episode to me... But in the back of my mind I was thinking where the hell is ghost?

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I know that it's difficult and expensive to get the direwolves in the show, but come on we need some shots of Ghost messing people up. I loved how the hounds turned on Ramsey but Ghost ripping out his throat would have been possibly the only thing better

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Think they're taking stock in how the show has portrayed spies/informants being everywhere. The show has hinted at how easy it is for information, especially info about such a sizable force such as the Vale Army, to get around.

It's not an unreasonable line of thinking given the turmoil of what the North has been going through, especially when Ramsay says "I've been hearing stories about you" or whatever he said, to Jon at the parlay the day before the battle.

Word gets around in the show. No drones needed.

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True, but this is Littlefinger we are talking about. If anybody can avoid being spotted, it would be him.

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Plus there have been plenty of people moving armies around in secret (well as much as possible) in the books. Robb split his army and ambushed Jaime after secretly moving it through the Riverlands. Moat Cailin is a good ways from Winterfell really, so Ramsay isn't likely to know of their approach (an argument could be made that he should have men guarding Moat Cailin, but that is a different issue). Even if he had scouts near Winterfell, it's hard to say how much warning he would have. Scouts can be killed too.

Another thing about Ghost, he should have at least been somewhere near the initial meeting. When Ramsay is talking about feeding them to his dogs Jon should have said something like, "my wolf likes to eat dogs" and have Ghost over there licking his chops. Hell, he would have probably gone berserk at seeing Sh@ggydog's head and killed Ramsay right there.

Dany is 1. Who is the second?

Man, there were some epic scenes last night

So I must have missed them from the show (haven't read the books), why is Jamie going to go kill some Frey's? Was it him just following through and helping Edmure after he gave him Riverrun?

Whoever said that misinterpreted the preview scene, imo. Jaime is, so far, still allied with old Walder.

Ok, glad I'm not completely missing something then

In the books Yara (Asha) has a sexual relationship with one of the sailors on her ship. She doesn't have any bisexual tendencies in my recollection.

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I know one of the "main" good guys had to die this episode, but anyone else think Rickon could have easily survived that game? If he just watched over his shoulder while running he could have changed direction once Ramsay shot an arrow.

I'll be honest I'm okay with Rickon dying over Tormund or Davos

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To give Rickon credit he was like 3 when this started so hasn't had much combat training as a captive.

Yeah, tough to lose another Stark, but this one didn't carry a lot of weight

All the people saying the actress (Yara) had let herself go were obviously wrong. She looked pretty fit in her leather pants. I think it was the coat she wore in earlier episodes.

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Yeah, tough to lose another Stark, but this one didn't carry a lot of weight

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Agreed. I don't like losing him but since he has barely been around it didn't sting as bad as the others.

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I just watched the dragon scene again. Freaking epic. Drogon looks like he's 4-5x as large as he was at the end of season five. A fun detail that was easy to miss:
When the camera switches perspectives and shows the attack from a different boat (i.e. to show how people on other boats would see the dragon attack), you can see people leaping off of every other boat in the shot.

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You can see Drogon far in the background between two of the masters before he shows up and Dani climbs on. Pretty cool little detail.

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Yeah I loved that. Barely noticed the first time, but on my rewatch I looked for it. It came right as Dany's conversation turned on them - telling them she was talking about their terms of surrender, not hers. I think she was kinda waiting to see Drogon in the distance for dramatic effect obviously the writers planned it that way).

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I just watched the dragon scene again. Freaking epic. Drogon looks like he's 4-5x as large as he was at the end of season five. A fun detail that was easy to miss:
When the camera switches perspectives and shows the attack from a different boat (i.e. to show how people on other boats would see the dragon attack), you can see people leaping off of every other boat in the shot.

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You can see Drogon far in the background between two of the masters before he shows up and Dani climbs on. Pretty cool little detail.

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Yeah, I practically squealed when I saw that. My wife missed it but I told her the dragons were about to show up.

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Yeah, tough to lose another Stark, but this one didn't carry a lot of weight

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Agreed. I don't like losing him but since he has barely been around it didn't sting as bad as the others.

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Maybe there wasn't the personal connection, but his death carries the most weight. The show has effectively ended the Stark line. Bran will never have kids, and Jon is either a Targaryen, or still a bast.rd.