***Official GAME OF THRONES Season 6 (BOOK READERS/SPOILERS ALLOWED)***

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Arya is getting wishy washy. When faceless man asked says "a girl needs to make a decision whether to serve the many-faced god" and Arya responds "a girl has already decided" which concludes with "then a servant needs to stop asking questions" nobody knows what she's decided. She's obviously conflicted on this murder.

I don't think, up to this episode, that Arya is intentionally struggling to let go of her past. I think she decided to let go and become no one, and then she saw all the stuff about her family via the play. That put more doubt in her mind, imo.
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Oh crud.

Someone explain to me then the significance of this sequence:

(1) LF dominating that dude via Little Lord Fauntleroy and saying it's time for the Knights of the Vale to get to work.
(2) LF talking to Sansa about the Blackfish taking Riverrun.

Seems like he could have said, "Hey I have the Vale knights ready to fight, girl!" Have we even seen Riverrun since Grandpa Tully died? That's probably misinformation, right?
If I remember correctly, he did say he was there with the Vale army camped at Moat Cailin, and she told him to get bent.

Then he told her about Blackfish and Riverrun.
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Poor Summer, poor Hodor

Be of good cheer! They're both coming back!
Wouldn't it be awesome if at some point if all the dire wolves are brought back from the dead?
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Also I believe people are reading too much into Bran's departure and Hodor's demise...
How do you mean? Like people should not be this emotional about it?
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Arya is getting wishy washy. When faceless man asked says "a girl needs to make a decision whether to serve the many-faced god" and Arya responds "a girl has already decided" which concludes with "then a servant needs to stop asking questions" nobody knows what she's decided. She's obviously conflicted on this murder.

I don't think, up to this episode, that Arya is intentionally struggling to let go of her past. I think she decided to let go and become no one, and then she saw all the stuff about her family via the play. That put more doubt in her mind, imo.
Agreed. I think that her intentions to become no one are sincere prior to this, but that she still has too many deep feelings as Arya Stark. I don't think that up to this point it has been an intentional deception of Jaqen or the waif. It's also no coincidence that the first assassin mission she is sent on after failing the last one due to executing the wishes of Arya in killing Trant is one in which she is sent to kill an actress in a play that is openly mocking her Stark family. It is certainly a test, and one we see she is failing due to her inability to separate from the emotions of Arya Stark. I think this is the fork where she now will actively attempt to deceive the Faceless posse in order to get back on track with Arya's list.

Whether she poisons the wine and the rum or retrieves needle and takes down everybody making fun of the Starks remains to be seen. It may be more gradual than that. Either way, I see a needle retrieval and a stalking off back toward Westeros as a badass with the list foremost in her mind in Arya's future.
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Hodor (RIP, you held the hell out of that door)
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Damn, I need to rewatch. All I can say in my defense is that Fake Sansa put me on tilt.
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And as far as Summer's demise, I didn't like it. IMO, would have been a lot cooler to have Meera pulling the sled with Summer at her side. But, I think it was part of a bigger picture to emphasize that Bran, Meera, Summer, Sh**** Dog, Rickon, Osha, Jojen, and Hodor all headed north together and all that is left now is Bran and Meera and Rickon as a prisoner at Winterfell. So much sacrifice for Bran. Now I admit, I still don't have any theories for what role Bran plays in the final game but I think they are setting it up to be significant.

Also, lols for those that said LF would end up marrying Sansa. Here is my theory on that whole dynamic. Things are going to go badly for the Jon/Sansa/Wildling/etc coalition against the Bolton's. LF is going to ride in with the Vale's army and save the day. In the aftermath, instead of welcoming LF for helping defeat the Bolton's, she is going to inform Royce, Robert Arryn, and the other Vale lords that LF plotted this all along, killed her aunt, and set himself up as the Warden of East, and that he also plotted with the Lannisters to marry her off to Ramsay, believing this chain of events would unfold this way, and that he then planned to marry her and hold both the North and the East. She'll also tell Robert that ultimately he would have killed you too when the time was right. LF will be sentenced to death by Robert but somehow he will either be exiled or escape, only to show up towards the end of the series for some last shot at the GOT, only to die screaming this time.
I like this theory; it also goes to my theory that Sansa has grown up ALOT; and actually has become very calculating. She "accepted" LF's excuses, and let him live - only so he could help her, and she knows he will because she knows he desires her (his weakness was love back when he was a boy, so he banished it, but now it's shown up again). He won't discard her, but she will discard him.
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Does anyone think Sansa is pregnant? Her wording about feeling what Ramsay did to her and inside her, that she can still feel it now.
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I don't think so.
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I hope not. There are already a ton of major plotlines going on and I'd prefer if they didn't add another (uninteresting, IMO) plotline to the bunch.
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1. All things Dragons; I think Jorah will be heading to Oldtown to see the Maesters and will meet Sam and learn more about Dragons and the cure for grayscale.

2. Poor Hodor; "He's hodor, my Hodor"

3. Wolves & Wargs; I hate that all the direwolves but Ghost (and pack-leader Nymeria) are dead. Would it be cool if Arya is sent to kill a family member and Nymeria is the one that snaps her out of it? Or if Arya is being hunted by Waif and Jaqen and it's Nymeria and her pack that saves Arya (warging or not)?

4. The Shield is Down; It was hypothesized above that Bran would be actively prevented from crossing the Wall by the Magic there. I don't think this will happen (i.e. I don't think he will be prevented from crossing), but I DO think he will CHOOSE not to cross the wall voluntarily. Since he's been marked by the Night King (which allowed the WW's and Wight's to enter the cave/tree) if Bran crosses the Wall, it will give passage to the WW and the Wights across the wall as well - OR perhaps because he's marked, this has already happened and the "shield is down", per se.
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I like your theory on the show only thread....that's the only one that makes since to me.

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so has anyone hypothesized that the COTF helped Brandon the Builder build the wall with magic to keep their "invention" locked up North?
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so has anyone hypothesized that the COTF helped Brandon the Builder build the wall with magic to keep their "invention" locked up North?


That is already a given.
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so has anyone hypothesized that the COTF helped Brandon the Builder build the wall with magic to keep their "invention" locked up North?


That is already a given.
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Makes sense...
Really???
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1. All things Dragons; I think Jorah will be heading to Oldtown to see the Maesters and will meet Sam and learn more about Dragons and the cure for dragon scale .


It's grayscale not dragon scale. Never seen it connected to dragons.
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Theatre Troupe Sansa in all her glory, you're welcome
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3. Wolves & Wargs; I hate that all the direwolves but Ghost (and pack-leader Nymeria) are dead. Would it be cool if Arya is sent to kill a family member and Nymeria is the one that snaps her out of it? Or if Arya is being hunted by Waif and Jaqen and it's Nymeria and her pack that saves Arya (warging or not)?


THIS would be great. I just don't know that after what we've seen with handling of the Direwolves that such a great insert would occur.
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ince he's been marked by the Night King (which allowed the WW's and Wight's to enter the cave/tree) if Bran crosses the Wall, it will give passage to the WW and the Wights across the wall as well - OR perhaps because he's marked, this has already happened and the "shield is down", per se.
I think this is the substitute for the book's dragon horn and the wall comes down under Edd's watch, which is fitting enough without Jon's foreshadowing of "don't topple it over while I'm gone" jab.

Wall comes down at the end of this season, thus the race for Jon and the Wildlings (dibs, bandname) to take Winterfell as the first defensive stronghold of the North.
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Does anyone think Sansa is pregnant? Her wording about feeling what Ramsay did to her and inside her, that she can still feel it now.
No. It's been a while in show time since the escape from Winterfell. If she was pregnant, she'd know it and be showing by now.
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Hypothesis.

If Hodor somehow became a whitewalker ( is this possible?) Could Bran have some link to him that allows him to worg into him and control them. ( Think Data-Picard/Locutus- Borg?)
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So, Arya lied to the faceless man and got away with it, right? She told him that she would poison the rum because only the actress drank it, but clearly both the actress and fake tyrion drank the rum. I'm not certain cause I was still shocked by fake sansa's funyuns.
She was on a recon. She told him she will poison the wine, not that she did.
The Tyrion actor offered wine to Lady Crane, and she chose rum. I think that he drank wine.
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So, Arya lied to the faceless man and got away with it, right? She told him that she would poison the rum because only the actress drank it, but clearly both the actress and fake tyrion drank the rum. I'm not certain cause I was still shocked by fake sansa's funyuns.
She was on a recon. She told him she will poison the wine, not that she did.
That's not what the OP was saying.

The issue is: Arya clearly saw 2 people drink from the wine and reported back that only 1 had.
You are mistaken.
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Hypothesis.

If Hodor somehow became a whitewalker ( is this possible?) Could Bran have some link to him that allows him to worg into him and control them. ( Think Data-Picard/Locutus- Borg?)
I don't think getting stabbed to death by wights is conducive to being raised again as a WW. He'll be a very large wight though.

As far as we know from show canon, only Craster's *newborn* sons are able to make the transition, outside of the CotF stabbing whomever the Night King was.
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The previous episode showed an interaction between LF and Lord Royce. The Blackfish is a Tully from Riverrun, and Sansa's uncle.
No....not Sansa's uncle....Catelyns uncle (and also Lysa and Edmure's uncle)
So, Sansa's great-uncle. I don't know about you, but I use "uncle" and "aunt" for all my great-uncles and great-aunts.
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Oh crud.

Someone explain to me then the significance of this sequence:

(1) LF dominating that dude via Little Lord Fauntleroy and saying it's time for the Knights of the Vale to get to work.
(2) LF talking to Sansa about the Blackfish taking Riverrun.

Seems like he could have said, "Hey I have the Vale knights ready to fight, girl!" Have we even seen Riverrun since Grandpa Tully died? That's probably misinformation, right?
So this shows that there are 2 very strong houses (2 of the 7 kingdoms actually) that are ready to fight to bring the north back under the stark banner. I do not think that the information about Blackfish and the riverlands army is misinformation as it tends to be in line with the books (I think) ... I believe that in the books Brynden retakes Riverrun after the Red Wedding but I don't think that has been shown in the show yet.

I think that there will end up being some tension between Sansa and Jon when Jon finds out they have the entire Vale offering to help them. LF is a self centered *******, but I think he views Sansa as more controllable than Ramsay and will continue trying to help and play the hero. Not sure how that ends, he and Varys I think are going to be the last two standing.
In the books, the Tully house (thru the Blackfish) still controlled Riverrun until Ser Jaime arrived to break the siege. Blackfish snuck cut a deal, then snuck off during the night in a canoe before the Lannisters took physical possession.
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*UNCLE not Aunt.
Hey ... don't try to pin gender roles on the Blackfish ...

(fixed it thanks)
Remember the book-reader consensus that Blackfish is gay. He refused to marry when Hoster set up an advantageous marriage, and that refusal created the rift between the two of them. He has remained unmarried for the ensuing decades.
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The previous episode showed an interaction between LF and Lord Royce. The Blackfish is a Tully from Riverrun, and Sansa's uncle.
No....not Sansa's uncle....Catelyns uncle (and also Lysa and Edmure's uncle)
So, Sansa's great-uncle. I don't know about you, but I use "uncle" and "aunt" for all my great-uncles and great-aunts.


In conversation sure. But here implying its Sansas I thought was possibly confusing to others. They might think it's catelyns brother. Just clarifying.
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1. All things Dragons; I think Jorah will be heading to Oldtown to see the Maesters and will meet Sam and learn more about Dragons and the cure for dragon scale.
1. What is "dragon scale?" The disease is called "grayscale," and I don't recall anything in the books or TV series which tied it to dragons.
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Hypothesis.

If Hodor somehow became a whitewalker ( is this possible?) Could Bran have some link to him that allows him to worg into him and control them. ( Think Data-Picard/Locutus- Borg?)
I don't think getting stabbed to death by wights is conducive to being raised again as a WW. He'll be a very large wight though.

As far as we know from show canon, only Craster's *newborn* sons are able to make the transition, outside of the CotF stabbing whomever the Night King was.
I would think that the WWs are able to convert any living human that they want to convert. I see no reason that the ability would be limited to Craster's offspring.
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