Wonder what Meg is going to do with the c-4

shut up meg

Regarding the C-4, maybe some sort of recreation of the Departure when the street pipes blew up?

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Sepinwall said she will use the girls to gain access for the trailer. Still could be loaded with explosives. And she said something to Matt about being so close but not being able to get in. I think she blows up the barriers and the "special", exclusive place gets opened to the masses.

I think Htown is on to something.

I think Meg's group is going to use the girls as a "reveal" to the people of Jarden, then blow themselves in the trailer up on the bridge for 2 reasons:

1) So that the town that didn't lose anyone in the departure will finally "feel loss"

2) To destroy the bridge that keeps people out, so that the people of Jarden will not feel "safe" any more

What if the nooses on the bridge in Kevin's purgatory episode were foreshadowing? And the GR hangs the teens off the bridge?

I'm expecting something shocking since the action is supposed to "change everything".

I wonder if the girls will be wearing the explosives.

This show has become my have-to-watch-night-of show for sure.

Can't wait to see where it goes next week.

Takes some skill to weave in Grandmaster Flash, Olivia Newton John, and Sturgill Simpson as well as they did.

I doubt the GR would survive as long as they have. Hell, I'd kill a few on a routine ice cream trip and not think twice about it.

Raise your hand if you'd kill one. Be honest.

Well, a real life example is Westboro baptists

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I wonder if the girls will be wearing the explosives.

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So they are muslims

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I think Htown is on to something.

I think Meg's group is going to use the girls as a "reveal" to the people of Jarden, then blow themselves in the trailer up on the bridge for 2 reasons:

1) So that the town that didn't lose anyone in the departure will finally "feel loss"

2) To destroy the bridge that keeps people out, so that the people of Jarden will not feel "safe" any more

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I agree with this, however, I was wondering this morning what the girls motivation is for going along with the GR. Assuming Meg is going to blow them up, do they not know that? If they do, why the hell do they want to do be blown-up? And why did they want to leave their families in the first place?

Now I really wonder what is up with them running through the woods.

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Good thought!

I didn't really care for this episode..kinda boring if you ask me. But the ending made up for the lack of content. Honestly the episode really didn't provide us with much until the end. The entire episode I was trying to figure out where in the timeline this episode was taking place. I get that they're telling stories from the different characters but this one seemed to disrupt the flow of the show for me.... jumping from the girls disappearance to after abducting Tom. (just didn't flow for me)

Anywho the ending did get me excited for what's next. Ellebee, I wonder if they'll circle back to that scene with an explanation. Also I like the thought of the noose on the bridge in Kevin's "whatever he's in" having some foreshadowing for the next scene.

Do we know the guy that was holding the noose?

I would think they would circle back to that. I like the idea of the nooses being for the girls.

I feel like the season finale will either be epic, or a major let down. Can't wait...

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I hope it's not a let down but I feel it should be filled with plenty! Obviously we're gonna see the scene on the bridge but I'm sure we'l get more on Kevin in this episode. Can't Wait!

Just FYI - the show hasn't been renewed and Sepinwall isn't overly optimistic about it. This might be the series finale, which would be unfortunate.

It is getting more critical acclaim, but apparently the ratings are tiny. Ratings don't always matter to HBO, but it could get it cancelled.

When you have a story/format that isn't conducive to grabbing new viewers along the way, it's pretty tough sledding when you didn't start out with good ratings. Lots of folks decided to give up on it after season 1 (rough 1.5 mill viewers per week down to 600k right the gate this year), and while it's held the ones that did come back, it's not growing. This season never really stood much of a chance.

ratings for this past week were the highest of the year, so that bodes well...but ratings are around 700k, and last year not one episode was under 1.3 mm.

What's hurting it is the lack of a power punch right now on HBO to pair with it. Showtime is pumping it with Homeland & The Affair, then you have your cable Walking Dead and network shows...most people I talked to who I know watched season one last year basically give the "I keep forgetting that's on right now" response and then have to go back and watch on HBO Go. It's sort of being lost in the wind. If there was another powerful drama to pair it with on HBO right now, I think it would help.

edit-also agree with Danny that you lost some people after that first season who just haven't returned.

Quinn I can definitely see that. I don't know anyone that actually watches the show.

Danny Duberstein I almost fell into that grouping that gave up. Season 1 was too much depression and frustration with the GR. I think Kevin's character is what kept me going. I agree with the storyline being one that can't just be picked up midway through.

I hope it gets renewed. I cancelled my HBO over the summer and did not plan on watching season 2. I ended up getting an offer for half price HBO, so I said "F it, I'll give it another shot." I'm glad I did.

The problem with this show is that they set up 100 new storylines every single episode. They clearly can't pick something and go with it.

when the format is one where the regulars that have seen every episode are often asking themselves "wtf is going on", it's going to be very frustrating for anyone else to pick it up. I too almost didn't give season 2 a chance, but am glad I did. I don't mind something that jumps around a bit, because at a high level, it still seems like everything is tied together overall.

Season 2 has been mystery sprinkled with depression. Season 1 was depression sprinkled with some mystery.

I read an interview with Lindelof this morning about the show and he discusses season 1 not having a backbone, and trying to use the missing girls as a singular backbone to the season, with other stuff going on around it, and that maybe helping it. Here's a snippet:

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Variety: Obviously, the big takeaway of episode nine is that Evie is alive, the girls are alive and they're in the Guilty Remnant. Was this a long-planned thing? Can you talk about how that came about?

Damon Lindelof: I don't want to totally demystify the writing process of the episode, but with that particular reveal, there was a trajectory of ideas that fell [into place] very, very early on as we designed the season. One of the things that I think that the first season certainly lacked was a backbone of, "This is the story of the season." It was a little bit more about watching the condition of these people's lives, and I was really interested in exploring that territory, but it lent itself more to a "day in the life" form of storytelling, versus [having] a spine to kind of build this on. When you watch a season of "Justified" or "Breaking Bad," you basically go, "Oh, this is the season where Jesse and Walt are working in the Superlab and this is what they need to overcome." There was a real shape to it.

And so very early on, we knew that we were going to move the show to Miracle and I was very passionate about the idea of starting the storytelling through the point of view of the Murphys and then bringing the Garveys into that world, et cetera. And then [executive producer] Tom Spezialy, who came on this year, when I pitched him the Miracle idea, he asked me if I had seen "Picnic at Hanging Rock," which is a Peter Weir movie.

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you can read more about what watching Picnic at Hanging Rock did to shape their ideas on the season and more...

variety.com/2015/tv/features/leftovers-evie-alive-episode-209-damon-lindelof-1201649433/

A few people were at my place while I was watching it. I was telling them that they should watch the show and explained a bit of what it was about and they seemed receptive....

....until all the priests weener shots! Then they were like, "WTF are you watching?"

Your friends think you have a naked-dudes-in-stockades-on-top-of-trailers fetish now.

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Your friends think you have a naked-dudes-in-stockades-on-top-of-trailers fetish now.

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Not to mention the naked girls running through the woods fetish.

Hopefully Spav departs in tonight's episode