Hans Zimmer AND 80's aesthetic? I'm so down.
I hope he goes full-blown Blade Runner 2049 on this thing.
I hope he goes full-blown Blade Runner 2049 on this thing.
It's strange, because I think they knocked it out of the park with Flash and Green Arrow, at least in terms of the two leads.jabberwalkie09 said:TCTTS said:
In 100% agreement with all of this. The one thing WB seems to be doing right, at least, is (hopefully) placing Batman back in his own universe from here on out. Then again, they'll likely find a way to screw even that up.
I fully expect them to **** it up.Quote:
Also, for the record, Ruby Rose was terrible in John Wick 2, and she literally didn't speak a line. Quite an astonishing feat.
I think the only role I have seen her in that she was good was probably on Dark Matter (SyFy) where she had a guest appearance as an assassain android. Have to say I think CW made a bad casting choice here.
PatAg said:It's strange, because I think they knocked it out of the park with Flash and Green Arrow, at least in terms of the two leads.jabberwalkie09 said:TCTTS said:
In 100% agreement with all of this. The one thing WB seems to be doing right, at least, is (hopefully) placing Batman back in his own universe from here on out. Then again, they'll likely find a way to screw even that up.
I fully expect them to **** it up.Quote:
Also, for the record, Ruby Rose was terrible in John Wick 2, and she literally didn't speak a line. Quite an astonishing feat.
I think the only role I have seen her in that she was good was probably on Dark Matter (SyFy) where she had a guest appearance as an assassain android. Have to say I think CW made a bad casting choice here.
bearamedic99 said:
Just how many Canaries are there? They never stay dead.
TCTTS said:
If they make us watch Thomas Wayne die one more time, I don't know what I'm going to do...
TCTTS said:
It gets worse...
There's at least one comic arc where Thomas does become Batman in this exact scenario.toucan82 said:
this is a little out there but hear me out
what if Bruce dies and Thomas becomes Batman?
fig96 said:There's at least one comic arc where Thomas does become Batman in this exact scenario.toucan82 said:
this is a little out there but hear me out
what if Bruce dies and Thomas becomes Batman?
Bruce Almighty said:TCTTS said:
If they make us watch Thomas Wayne die one more time, I don't know what I'm going to do...
You'll watch the next time he dies like the rest of us.
honestly, i'm out on the batman movies for a while. i just have no interest in watching these guys continue to flounder around with what should be slam-dunk intellectual property.TCTTS said:
Regardless, this is all so ******* stupid. If you're WB, and you're currently developing a new Joker movie AND a new Batman movie simultaneously, how do you not at least put them in the same universe?
jackie childs said:honestly, i'm out on the batman movies for a while. i just have no interest in watching these guys continue to flounder around with what should be slam-dunk intellectual property.TCTTS said:
Regardless, this is all so ******* stupid. If you're WB, and you're currently developing a new Joker movie AND a new Batman movie simultaneously, how do you not at least put them in the same universe?
there is absolutely no reason that the DCU shouldn't be every bit as entertaining as the MCU.
i have no idea if they'll actually do it, but even the fact that they're considering having thomas wayne be a trump-like character is insanely stupid and short-sighted. regardless of your politics, why do something potentially so polarizing for a movie that you desperately need to be successful?
The Killing Joke. If you're really the Batman fan you claim to be, read it. IMO, its the second greatest Batman story next to Year One.FTACO97 said:
This is a complete dumpster fire at this point. Literally makes me sick. I'm one of the biggest Batman fans, have read just about every comic story line since the early 90's involving the Bat family. Never has there once, in the past 20+ years, been a concrete back story to Joker. That's part of the point of Joker, no one knows his history. Who he is, what he did before becoming the Joker. Additionally, there's never been a back story on Thomas Wayne where he wasn't a doctor with a big heart who wanted to help people. Making him a Trump-esque business man is a total joke.
Has Geoff Johns just lost all control over there, or worse yet, is the guy who has been involved in many great DC story lines now agreeing with all this and throwing the history out the window and replacing it with crap.
It still boggles my mind how they have been able to **** up Superman and Batman so spectacularly. Two characters that should have been a slam dunk of great films and be true competitors to the MCU.
There's also an interesting alternate origin for him in the New 52 (in the Endgame arc I think), very worth reading if you're into the character.Bruce Almighty said:The Killing Joke. If you're really the Batman fan you claim to be, read it. IMO, its the second greatest Batman story next to Year One.FTACO97 said:
This is a complete dumpster fire at this point. Literally makes me sick. I'm one of the biggest Batman fans, have read just about every comic story line since the early 90's involving the Bat family. Never has there once, in the past 20+ years, been a concrete back story to Joker. That's part of the point of Joker, no one knows his history. Who he is, what he did before becoming the Joker. Additionally, there's never been a back story on Thomas Wayne where he wasn't a doctor with a big heart who wanted to help people. Making him a Trump-esque business man is a total joke.
Has Geoff Johns just lost all control over there, or worse yet, is the guy who has been involved in many great DC story lines now agreeing with all this and throwing the history out the window and replacing it with crap.
It still boggles my mind how they have been able to **** up Superman and Batman so spectacularly. Two characters that should have been a slam dunk of great films and be true competitors to the MCU.
Not sure what his involvement had been until the summer with this, but he's no longer in a Kevin Feige type of role, I think he's more involved with a few films, namely the Green Lantern one, and those already filmed or in production (Aquaman and WW84).FTACO97 said:
Has Geoff Johns just lost all control over there, or worse yet, is the guy who has been involved in many great DC story lines now agreeing with all this and throwing the history out the window and replacing it with crap.
I have read the Killing Joke. Not one of my favorites. But that's more of a one off story and still didn't give a deep back story to the Joker. It essentially put him in a similar role to Nicholson's Joker in 89 Batman. My favorite Batman TPB, hands down, is Hush.Bruce Almighty said:The Killing Joke. If you're really the Batman fan you claim to be, read it. IMO, its the second greatest Batman story next to Year One.FTACO97 said:
This is a complete dumpster fire at this point. Literally makes me sick. I'm one of the biggest Batman fans, have read just about every comic story line since the early 90's involving the Bat family. Never has there once, in the past 20+ years, been a concrete back story to Joker. That's part of the point of Joker, no one knows his history. Who he is, what he did before becoming the Joker. Additionally, there's never been a back story on Thomas Wayne where he wasn't a doctor with a big heart who wanted to help people. Making him a Trump-esque business man is a total joke.
Has Geoff Johns just lost all control over there, or worse yet, is the guy who has been involved in many great DC story lines now agreeing with all this and throwing the history out the window and replacing it with crap.
It still boggles my mind how they have been able to **** up Superman and Batman so spectacularly. Two characters that should have been a slam dunk of great films and be true competitors to the MCU.
Well that would explain it then I guess. They tried to make him their Feige and then dropped him in less than a year. Either he wasn't any good at it or WB didn't care for being told what to do.israeliag said:Not sure what his involvement had been until the summer with this, but he's no longer in a Kevin Feige type of role, I think he's more involved with a few films, namely the Green Lantern one, and those already filmed or in production (Aquaman and WW84).FTACO97 said:
Has Geoff Johns just lost all control over there, or worse yet, is the guy who has been involved in many great DC story lines now agreeing with all this and throwing the history out the window and replacing it with crap.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/geoff-johns-exits-dc-entertainment-writing-producing-deal-1118131