Great movie!
"that's not my tempo..." is now in my list of catchphrases.
"that's not my tempo..." is now in my list of catchphrases.
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Football coaches have been fired for less. I just don't think that could happen, even at a university level.
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Football coaches have been fired for less. I just don't think that could happen, even at a university level.
None of you have been to architecture school. This stuff happened a lot. I saw male and female students breakdown and cry. Architecture professors were just a lot more clever delivering the message for the most part.
The movie was GREAT! At the end of the day I don't think Fletcher cared if he got any notoriety or not. Just as in the story about Charlie Parker no one he talked to ever heard the story. All they knew was that Charlie Parker was great.
Quinn said:
Bumping this one 8 years later as I finally watched this yesterday.
What an incredible film! Two intense, spot on performances that were all that was needed to carry this movie to great heights. JK rightfully won the Oscar for this, but Miles should have been nominated, at the very least, as well. This movie ask the question of what does it take to be truly great and is it worth it? Andrew and Fletcher believe that it is worth it, but I don't think Chazelle or the audience is necessarily supposed to arrive at the same answer. So many thrilling scenes, especially the finale, which is better than pretty much any action movie or comic book movie since then. I would put it up there with the best scenes from End Game and Top Gun: Maverick (does that mean that Miles Teller is our greatest action movie star??).
Really glad that I caught this one on HBO Max this week. Check it out if you haven't seen it or haven't revisited it since it came out.
The bold is one of the reasons I love this movie so much.Quinn said:
Bumping this one 8 years later as I finally watched this yesterday.
What an incredible film! Two intense, spot on performances that were all that was needed to carry this movie to great heights. JK rightfully won the Oscar for this, but Miles should have been nominated, at the very least, as well. This movie ask the question of what does it take to be truly great and is it worth it? Andrew and Fletcher believe that it is worth it, but I don't think Chazelle or the audience is necessarily supposed to arrive at the same answer. So many thrilling scenes, especially the finale, which is better than pretty much any action movie or comic book movie since then. I would put it up there with the best scenes from End Game and Top Gun: Maverick (does that mean that Miles Teller is our greatest action movie star??).
Really glad that I caught this one on HBO Max this week. Check it out if you haven't seen it or haven't revisited it since it came out.
TCTTS said:
I cringed way too many times re-reading that initial review of mine just now. Not because my feelings have changed, but because it's so overwritten. Also, how they hell was that EIGHT years ago???
MASAXET said:The bold is one of the reasons I love this movie so much.Quinn said:
Bumping this one 8 years later as I finally watched this yesterday.
What an incredible film! Two intense, spot on performances that were all that was needed to carry this movie to great heights. JK rightfully won the Oscar for this, but Miles should have been nominated, at the very least, as well. This movie ask the question of what does it take to be truly great and is it worth it? Andrew and Fletcher believe that it is worth it, but I don't think Chazelle or the audience is necessarily supposed to arrive at the same answer. So many thrilling scenes, especially the finale, which is better than pretty much any action movie or comic book movie since then. I would put it up there with the best scenes from End Game and Top Gun: Maverick (does that mean that Miles Teller is our greatest action movie star??).
Really glad that I caught this one on HBO Max this week. Check it out if you haven't seen it or haven't revisited it since it came out.
And agreed on your second point. I remember the director was interviewed after it came out and was asked about what came next for the characters or if he'd consider a sequel. He said something to the effect of "you can't do a sequel, because Andrew would have OD'd or self-destructed a few years later." That interview may already be in this thread but it was really interesting.
Quinn said:MASAXET said:The bold is one of the reasons I love this movie so much.Quinn said:
Bumping this one 8 years later as I finally watched this yesterday.
What an incredible film! Two intense, spot on performances that were all that was needed to carry this movie to great heights. JK rightfully won the Oscar for this, but Miles should have been nominated, at the very least, as well. This movie ask the question of what does it take to be truly great and is it worth it? Andrew and Fletcher believe that it is worth it, but I don't think Chazelle or the audience is necessarily supposed to arrive at the same answer. So many thrilling scenes, especially the finale, which is better than pretty much any action movie or comic book movie since then. I would put it up there with the best scenes from End Game and Top Gun: Maverick (does that mean that Miles Teller is our greatest action movie star??).
Really glad that I caught this one on HBO Max this week. Check it out if you haven't seen it or haven't revisited it since it came out.
And agreed on your second point. I remember the director was interviewed after it came out and was asked about what came next for the characters or if he'd consider a sequel. He said something to the effect of "you can't do a sequel, because Andrew would have OD'd or self-destructed a few years later." That interview may already be in this thread but it was really interesting.
For sure. I did see that interview on this thread when I read it. The subtle recognition in Fletcher's face when he realizes the level that Andrew reaches in that final performance is so good. He got to the point he had been working towards and that Fletcher had pushed him to and JK plays it so well. It would look like pure insanity to a normal person, though. But to them, it's achieving greatness.
Oh wow. It does read very movie blog review-y.TCTTS said:
I cringed way too many times re-reading that initial review of mine just now. Not because my feelings have changed, but because it's so overwritten. Also, how they hell was that EIGHT years ago???
Just one of many, many examples.TCTTS said:
I cringed way too many times re-reading that initial review of mine just now. Not because my feelings have changed, but because it's so overwritten. Also, how they hell was that EIGHT years ago???
Ryan the Temp said:
I finally saw this a couple weeks ago. For pure entertainment value, irrespective of the actual concepts of music and musical education, it's objectively a good movie and entertaining to watch. JK Simmons played the hell out the character and demonstrates his fine acting chops.
As a serious musician who teaches private music lessons, the movie has so many things wrong with it I don't even know where to start. For that reason, I really disliked the film, and every musician I know who has seen it, especially NYC-based musicians and Julliard grads dislike it for the same reason. It is grossly unrealistic and factually inaccurate. Yes, I've dealt with my share of jerks, but there is no place in the world of music academia (or performing for the most part) where people who throw things at people and hit them are revered, respected, or even tolerated. While Fletcher eventually loses his job, he would never have lasted a single semester after his first bout of violent BS in real life and no other reputable music program would have hired him. Further, playing to the point of physical injury DOES NOT make you better, and it can actually make you worse. No serious music teacher will ever encourage or allow their students to injure themselves while playing - They will teach and encourage better, more responsible methods to avoid the risk of injury.
The lasting message it leaves with me is that it represents an unrealistic and profoundly negative view of serious musicianship and higher education that is going to turn young musicians away because they think that's what it's really like.
Claude! said:
Harlan Ellison wrote a pretty good short story about this years ago - All the Sounds of Fear.
MW03 said:
Well that was the best movie I've seen in a very, very long time. Holy smokes.
I have looked at some old posts of mine in the past and wondered what the hell was going on in my life at that timeTCTTS said:
I cringed way too many times re-reading that initial review of mine just now. Not because my feelings have changed, but because it's so overwritten. Also, how they hell was that EIGHT years ago???