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maroon barchetta
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Is the blonde in green another one of Kelsey Grammar's wives?
Max Power
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Bruce Almighty said:

I really liked David Johnson in The Long Walk.

I think it's both surprising, and exciting casting IMO. I never would have thought about him as Black Panther but he's great in everything I've seen him in. He played my favorite character on Industry. I thought he was the best character in The Long Walk as well. The same could be said about Alien Romulus too. He actually gives me hope that they could make another good Black Panther movie.
TXAG 05
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Max Power said:

Bruce Almighty said:

I really liked David Johnson in The Long Walk.

I think it's both surprising, and exciting casting IMO. I never would have thought about him as Black Panther but he's great in everything I've seen him in. He played my favorite character on Industry. I thought he was the best character in The Long Walk as well. The same could be said about Alien Romulus too. He actually gives me hope that they could make another good Black Panther movie.


Another good one? The first was average at best, and the 2nd was terrible.
Saxsoon
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Max Power said:

Bruce Almighty said:

I really liked David Johnson in The Long Walk.

I think it's both surprising, and exciting casting IMO. I never would have thought about him as Black Panther but he's great in everything I've seen him in. He played my favorite character on Industry. I thought he was the best character in The Long Walk as well. The same could be said about Alien Romulus too. He actually gives me hope that they could make another good Black Panther movie.

His work in the Long Walk sells me on this so hard. He was my favorite character as well
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Bruce Almighty
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Disagree on the first. It was a really good movie.
Saxsoon
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Near the end, Erik is speculating on if we get the X-Men in between Doomsday and Secret Wars. Old Xmen are gone and you introduce the new blood before they are pulled into Battleworld.
Cinco Ranch Aggie
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TXAG 05 said:

Max Power said:

Bruce Almighty said:

I really liked David Johnson in The Long Walk.

I think it's both surprising, and exciting casting IMO. I never would have thought about him as Black Panther but he's great in everything I've seen him in. He played my favorite character on Industry. I thought he was the best character in The Long Walk as well. The same could be said about Alien Romulus too. He actually gives me hope that they could make another good Black Panther movie.


Another good one? The first was average at best, and the 2nd was terrible.

Black Panther's best movie wasn't his - it was Captain America: Civil War.
jeffk
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Ah yeah the TexAgs fetish for bashing Black Panther is still here.
Cinco Ranch Aggie
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jeffk said:

Ah yeah the TexAgs fetish for bashing Black Panther is still here.

To say the first movie was meh and the second movie sucked is a bashing fetish?
veryfuller
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So is Ryan Gosling just making movies for his kids now?
TXAG 05
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jeffk said:

Ah yeah the TexAgs fetish for bashing Black Panther is still here.


Not a fetish. The first one isn't bad, but it's pretty boring and predictable. If you like it, that's great.

Don't think anyone will disagree that the 2nd one is hot garbage though.
CharleyKerfeld
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if you've ever experienced the grief of losing someone very suddenly who you loved very dearly, Black Panther 2 is a very good film.

The first Black Panther saw Odyssey-level push back of people determined to tell you it wasn't a good movie despite it dwarfing the box office of every other individual Marvel film before it.
jokershady
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Agreed. I enjoyed the first one. Not at all my absolute favorite MCU film doesn't even crack the top 5 but still enjoyed it.

2nd one just plain sucked. Absolutely sucked. Started off with a good tribute, work-in to the story for Chadwick's death but everything after that was crap and made no sense.
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

jeffk said:

Ah yeah the TexAgs fetish for bashing Black Panther is still here.

To say the first movie was meh and the second movie sucked is a bashing fetish?

Typically, when a movie become political, and Black Panther did become political, many people on both sides tend to overreact to the movie. When someone that is a fan of superhero movies says Black Panther is a bad movie, I'm going to roll my eyes just as much as someone that says Black Panther is one of the greatest superhero movies of all time. It became way overhyped critically for reasons that I think went beyond how good the movie actually was, and because of that, generated hate for those same reasons. I do agree though that Black Panther 2 isn't a good movie. It's only saving grace was that Namor was excellent, and unfortunately, completely wasted by being in an otherwise bad movie.
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IO9 description of the Doomsday footage

As for the footage, it starts with a scene of Doctor Doom, in full costume, sitting on a golden throne. The ground is pulsing with green energy. "Victor was always the smartest guy in every room," says Sue Storm. "He used to be different. Then everything he loved was taken from him." He's in front of the painting from the teaser poster. "I knew he was lost, but didn't realize he was broken." We see she's giving this speech to, well, almost all the heroes, standing in a room.

We then fly over what looks like a completely destroyed city. Reed Richards asks, in an almost horrified tone, "Victor. Did you do this?" We see shots of several characters, including a crying Magneto, Charles Xavier, Steve Rogers with a baby, and others. "All of you have lived storied lives," Victor says. "And now you must give them back."

We watch Victor jump out of a building and fly down to the ground, nailing the superhero landing. Thor is there and jumps at Doom, swinging Stormbreaker. "I swear you'll beg for Hell when I'm through with you," he says. Victor stops him with a finger. Thor keeps pushing and pushing, but nothing happens. Then Victor flicks him back with green energy. "Hell answers to me," Victor says as he raises a bunch of Sentinels out of the ground around him.
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CharleyKerfeld said:

if you've ever experienced the grief of losing someone very suddenly who you loved very dearly, Black Panther 2 is a very good film.

The first Black Panther saw Odyssey-level push back of people determined to tell you it wasn't a good movie despite it dwarfing the box office of every other individual Marvel film before it.


The first one was a very good, well-crafted and well-acted movie. Losing Chadwick Boseman might actually have been the biggest piece of the puzzle that doomed post-Endgame Marvel.

But it's box office was helped tremendously by being the first real major black superhero movie done right, which caused a large contingent of black patrons to show up in theaters who likely didn't care that much for Marvel movies overall. That's reason for a slight asterisk by that box office number, but credit where credit's due, if it really was a crap movie it wouldn't have reached 1.3 billion worldwide.
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I think BP2 has a lot of good in it, but anything involving Riri, Val or those god awful super Dora Milaje flying suits was pretty bad. So I don't think it's a terrible film at all, just a flawed one.

On my iphone notes, I have it 29th of the 55 MCU movies/shows/seasons. Crazy list.
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veryfuller said:

So is Ryan Gosling just making movies for his kids now?

And F13 wives.
veryfuller
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Love it or hate it, Black Panther injected some much needed new visual style into the MCU. The crafts of that movie deserve all the praise they got (including the Oscar noms).

It also is one of the few Marvel movies with a good, memorable villain.

It probably is overhyped, but I think it's not given enough credit for elevating the style of those movies.
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

TXAG 05 said:

Max Power said:

Bruce Almighty said:

I really liked David Johnson in The Long Walk.

I think it's both surprising, and exciting casting IMO. I never would have thought about him as Black Panther but he's great in everything I've seen him in. He played my favorite character on Industry. I thought he was the best character in The Long Walk as well. The same could be said about Alien Romulus too. He actually gives me hope that they could make another good Black Panther movie.


Another good one? The first was average at best, and the 2nd was terrible.

Black Panther's best movie wasn't his - it was Captain America: Civil War.


This. David Johnson has some incredibly big shoes to fill and I'm sure he knows that.

BP is an odd deal for me. Chadwick was perfectly cast for that role. He was Black Panther. However, like a lot of folks I thought the first movie was just ok and the second movie was mostly garbage. Black Panther was what fully killed using Rotten Tomatoes for me. The level of virtue signaling over that film was historic and unprecedented.
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YouBet said:

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

TXAG 05 said:

Max Power said:

Bruce Almighty said:

I really liked David Johnson in The Long Walk.

I think it's both surprising, and exciting casting IMO. I never would have thought about him as Black Panther but he's great in everything I've seen him in. He played my favorite character on Industry. I thought he was the best character in The Long Walk as well. The same could be said about Alien Romulus too. He actually gives me hope that they could make another good Black Panther movie.


Another good one? The first was average at best, and the 2nd was terrible.

Black Panther's best movie wasn't his - it was Captain America: Civil War.


This. David Johnson has some incredibly big shoes to fill and I'm sure he knows that.

BP is an odd deal for me. Chadwick was perfectly cast for that role. He was Black Panther. However, like a lot of folks I thought the first movie was just ok and the second movie was mostly garbage. Black Panther was what fully killed using Rotten Tomatoes for me. The level of virtue signaling over that film was historic and unprecedented.

I love Black Panther. It also got dick rode so hard as Van Lathan would say because to do anything otherwise would downplay a rather historic film.
YouBet
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Also, super pumped that Ghost Rider is back. I wonder if we will get a Nic Cage cameo out of that.
Saxsoon
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Feige:

From Empire interview
"I'll give you the real scoop. We hadn't started a search yet. Ryan was working on Sinners, and when Ryan works on a project he's all in. So the presumption very much was we would sit with him after Sinners came out, after the Academy campaign. We were waiting 'til after the Academy Awards to sit with Ryan and begin that process."

"A month and a half or so before that process, he called me and said, 'I found him'. I said, 'What do you mean?' He goes, 'I found him. He's this guy, David Jonsson.' He mentioned his movies. I had seen some of them. I watched more. He goes, 'I'm going to meet him.' He had a secret meeting with him under cloak of darkness in a hotel somewhere, and called me afterwards and said, 'He's the guy, he's the guy, I felt it. I felt it in my soul. He's a good man, and he is the next Black Panther.' And I got chills, and I got a little welled-up and said, 'Let's do it'. So we've been sitting on this secret for a good five or six months."
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Saxsoon said:



Near the end, Erik is speculating on if we get the X-Men in between Doomsday and Secret Wars. Old Xmen are gone and you introduce the new blood before they are pulled into Battleworld.


Interesting.

To be clear (for anyone who hasn't seen the clip), Voss is *also* speculating that Secret Wars might move to from December '27 to May '28, seeing as they haven't started filming yet, which wouldn't be a surprise at this point. For such an effects-heavy movie they really need to start filming ASAP to make their current December '27 date, and I'm surprised there hasn't been any movement yet on that end.

Then again, X-Men would have to start filming ASAP as well, in order to take Secret Wars' place in December '27, which is what Voss is suggesting could happen, thus coming out between Doomsday and Secret Wars.

Otherwise, if Secret Wars sticks to December '27, Marvel has traditionally released movies in February, May, July, November, and December. At this point there's no way X-Men could make a July' 27 date (never mind that the calendar is already full), and again, only if they started filming ASAP could they make a November release date, but there's no way Marvel is releasing an X-Men movie just a month before Secret Wars.

From everything I've read, reports as of now say X-Men will likely start filming in winter/spring '27, which would line up for a May or July '28 release, as expected. The script is either done or close to being done, then I image casting will be finalized in the fall, for a late Q1 2027 start of shooting. Something along those lines.

Otherwise? Casting would have to be finalized… now, basically. Training would have to have already begun, and filming would have to start in the next month or two, all to make a December '27 release, and that would be cutting it pretty close.

Will definitely be interesting to see how this all shakes out, and yeah, hopefully we learn more at D23 next month.
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Saxsoon
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I still can't get over the footage of Jonnson on stage. Dude looks so humble and knows the mantle he is inheriting. It is really moving
gougler08
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Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool was such a good choice
dummble
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Gray Deadpool??

Idiot. It's Canadian tuxedo deadpool. Maybe denimpool . They hamfisted it with the Canadian flag.
Brian Earl Spilner
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I honestly thought the hype for BP was way overblown. It's not a terrible movie, just kind of a mid-tier MCU movie, imho.

I enjoyed the second one more. Not only did they handle Boseman's death well, but as a Mexican I loved how they showed the Mayan culture.

Still not in the upper tier of the MCU, but certainly a fun movie.
wangus12
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BP was really, really good for me. Chadwick Boseman was outstanding. Michael Jordan is really good as Killmonger (although I still think this character was the most overhyped of the film).

I wonder how Letitia Wright feels about possibly getting pushed out of the lead BP role
Brian Earl Spilner
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IMO it would be pretty dumb for her to be upset about that. She probably never expected to get that role in the first place.

They had to hobble together a story for the second one and set up whoever was going to take over the mantle long term. She was only ever a custodian of the role.
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TCTTS said:




Not the biggest fan of RR, but I love his passion for the character and how he interacts with fans.
CharleyKerfeld
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They should have had Winston Duke be Black Panther.
FL_Ag1998
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So, any guesses how they're going to explain the age jump in Tchalla's son from BP 2 to now?
rhutton125
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Age jump AND no heart-shaped herb. I thought maybe Jonsson was younger than he is, but it's a true age-up - Touissant was like 8 years old max, albeit 4 years ago… but Jonsson is 32.
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