rhutton125 said:

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I hope anchor beings are never mentioned again, except in bad fan theories, because the movie states that typically that universe decays over thousands of years. So there'd be no urgency for the Avengers.

I think in D&W it only works in a kind of meta "without Wolverine, nobody cared anymore" kind of way.

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Just using spoiler tag since you were

Wasnt that the end of Dr. Strange? That there was an incursion happening imminently?

Deadpool had it right, you tried, it failed, time to let the whole multiverse concept die.

Madmarttigan said:

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Deadpool had it right, you tried, it failed, time to let the whole multiverse concept die.

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At the risk of sounding like "winning is hard", the multiverse is not easy to write for because stories move in parallel and there is exponentially more material to account for to remain cohesive and logical. It's great for your true dedicated fans but is not ideal for people who want to just follow along with a blockbuster every 12-18 months. I don't think the multiverse and mass appeal are compatible

Secret Wars needs to put an end to multiverses, permanently. At least until 2032 when we get an Age of Apocalypse adaptation or something - but that's more of a "time travel caused this world to go bad, you have to fix it" a la Days of Future Past than "what if there was another universe where __." So maybe make that 2037 - I need a break.

I think you can do it reasonably this way:

1) Have the Avengers alternate reality movie with RDJ Doom in it
2) Have something bad happen (please not just Peter Parker gets really lonely) try to bring back Tony to fix it.
3) RDJ Doom happens to be fighting the FF at that point, and they all get sucked into Earth 616
4) Doom has all the resources he needs from Stark Industries because he looks like Tony, FF are imprisoned or something by the Avengers since they are interdimensional, you get your Thing vs Hulk fight here
5) Doom goes crazy, Avengers realize their mistake and join up with FF to beat Doom. You end up with the FF in charge of Stark Industries somehow at the end of the movie
6) Doom is captured, but maybe he has Stark tech and money hidden away for future movies after his escape

Stinger: Deadpool talking about how this universe learned it's lesson about touching the multiverse and hopefully they never do it again

fig96 said:

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This was funny the first time it was posted on the last page, kinda funny the second time further down the page, we get the joke by now.

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Like everyone looks back all 700 pages

Two is a lot, especially to look just at the same joke over and over.

I really just saw that today and didn't see it on the long current page. Then didn't look back. Apologies for wasting precious time that could have been more efficiently wasted on Texags.

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Ornithopter said:

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Stinger: Deadpool talking about how this universe learned it's lesson about touching the multiverse and hopefully they never do it again

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So the movie series needs to end with a a post credits scene that has Deadpool saying "Fine: I'll do it myself" and then he picks up a gauntlet and there's a million cut scenes of him destroying every anchor being in every universe.

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Like he killed all the dumb Ryan Reynolds superheroes at the end of Deadpool 2.

ok....rumor and speculation territory here but again comes from sources who have called several things.....granted nothing is actually signed yet but i'll be curious to hear from those on this thread that know a lot of the MCU lore from the comic books (i know none of it) to see if this is actually true....

spoiler tagging it anyway.....

Hearing things that I've already posted about prior that RDJ is going to obviously be Doom to some extent that's not new....but that there's going to be a version of him that's also Iron Man.......which again...i've already posted about.

Here's the new stuff......apparently they are looking at casting another male actor to play the REAL Dr Doom who's 100% bad and not some iteration of tony stark who's rumored to come from the F4 universe....and apparently the actor who's in talks to play that role is Vigo Mortensen....

Like anything...it could change. But what I'm curious about is does this move along the line with the lore from some of the Dr Doom comic books? Are there different versions of him?

Part of what brings this up is a point someone made.....you don't bring RDJ in and pay him an obscene amount of money ($50 - $100 million in total) just to be the bad guy and have him lose......gotta have him redeemed in some way people are guessing........and apparently they are trying to get Vigo to play the real 100% un-redeamable version of Doom in this thing. Which if they can.....holy crap would that be awesome and definitely shows they are swinging for the fences on this thing!!!

Not sure how I feel about that. If they do it right, would be pretty awesome and maybe give this franchise what it's been missing. Just don't trust them to pull it off.

That certain actor you mentioned has been notoriously vocal about big movie franchises. Hasn't come out against them necessarily but he's said most of those movies and roles are boring so he tends to avoid them.

FL_Ag1998 said:

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That certain actor you mentioned has been notoriously vocal about big movie franchises. Hasn't come out against them necessarily but he's said most of those movies and roles are boring so he tends to avoid them.

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But, money talks

FL_Ag1998 said:

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That certain actor you mentioned has been notoriously vocal about big movie franchises. Hasn't come out against them necessarily but he's said most of those movies and roles are boring so he tends to avoid them.

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Dont doubt you but sort of hypocritical considering he was the King in Return of the King, right?

RikkiTikkaTagem said:

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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That certain actor you mentioned has been notoriously vocal about big movie franchises. Hasn't come out against them necessarily but he's said most of those movies and roles are boring so he tends to avoid them.

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Dont doubt you but sort of hypocritical considering he was the King in Return of the King, right?

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Well, except that his experience in that franchise seems to be the basis for his opinion. But I'm probably doing him a little bit of a disservice and painting his opinion as more one-dimensional than what it is. He talks in generalities and does leave room for there to be some interesting roles in large franchises.

RikkiTikkaTagem said:

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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That certain actor you mentioned has been notoriously vocal about big movie franchises. Hasn't come out against them necessarily but he's said most of those movies and roles are boring so he tends to avoid them.

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Dont doubt you but sort of hypocritical considering he was the King in Return of the King, right?

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That was not a known and established franchise. It was kind of a risk to do what the director did back then.

FL_Ag1998 said:

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That certain actor you mentioned has been notoriously vocal about big movie franchises. Hasn't come out against them necessarily but he's said most of those movies and roles are boring so he tends to avoid them.

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He's a quirky dude, but a hell of an actor. Would make a great villain.

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RikkiTikkaTagem said:

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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That certain actor you mentioned has been notoriously vocal about big movie franchises. Hasn't come out against them necessarily but he's said most of those movies and roles are boring so he tends to avoid them.

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Dont doubt you but sort of hypocritical considering he was the King in Return of the King, right?

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That was not a known and established franchise. It was kind of a risk to do what the director did back then.

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That's a good point

Belton Ag said:

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FL_Ag1998 said:

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That certain actor you mentioned has been notoriously vocal about big movie franchises. Hasn't come out against them necessarily but he's said most of those movies and roles are boring so he tends to avoid them.

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He's a quirky dude, but a hell of an actor. Would make a great villain.

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Agreed, he's a great actor. I love Eastern Promises and of course the aforementioned franchise which he's best known from.

rhutton125 said:

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It dooms another universe, but apparently universes are doomed (as seen in Loki) left and right, all the time, for any reason, including just having a girl Loki or grabbing the Tesseract when it lands at your feet or all kinds of innocuous things.

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Did you only watch the 1st season of Loki and not the 2nd? Because the end of the series has the TVA completely changing course in their mission where they now let the branches of the multiverse tree flourish rather than pruning them with those time charges from season 1.

We should finally know more a week from today at D23…

Just guessing here but

-Armor Wars
-Shang-Chi 2
-X-Men
-Young Avengers

Spider-Man 4 is a Sony movie so can't be one of the 4 but it's likely to be released sometime in 2026, my guess is July https://t.co/UN4T6Vt1Fc

— Daniel Richtman (@DanielRPK) August 2, 2024

Fair point! I think I was just more referring to stakes, and the death of a universe (by swapping out a Black Widow or an Iron Man) is kind of a minor, distant thing to audiences after we've seen prunings, What Ifs, multiverse of madness, etc.

The more multiverse you see, the less you care about some OTHER Doctor Strange dying or whatever wiped-out wasteland is left of a bunch of civilians or heroes we never met.

I heard once that SDCC would be for movies and D23 for TV. They didn't cover any TV at Comic Con. Is there a chance that's true, and all they talk about is Agatha, Ironheart and Wonder Man?

rhutton125 said:

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I heard once that SDCC would be for movies and D23 for TV. They didn't cover any TV at Comic Con. Is there a chance that's true, and all they talk about is Agatha, Ironheart and Wonder Man?

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It sounds like the Russo Brothers/Downey Jr stuff came together pretty fast/last minute, so I'm guessing they changed the Comic-Con panel to center around that, along with their immediate 2025 slate.

Otherwise, yeah, Jeff Sneider was saying that the original plan was Comic-Con = movies, D23 = TV, and he's about as trustworthy as they come.

Now, most people seem to be guessing/hoping that D23 will "fill in the blanks" and give us the rest of the 2026/2027 slate, in both movies and TV.