*** MARVEL CINEMATIC UNIVERSE *** [Staff message on OP]

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A '60s setting would be so cool…

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Nick Fury's time in space will make more sense if he's searching for the Fantastic Four, kind of like how he once searched for Captain America…
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Yeah, if set in the '60s, my guess would be they've either been somewhere else in the universe for the past 60 years since (and they don't age, due to their powers), or they enter some kind of wormhole or something at the end of the movie that brings them into present day for the rest of their time in the MCU.
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Why 60s?

I wonder if something like 80s, or even 90s given Captain Marvel, might not be more likely. However, I was thinking similar to you. Lost in space somehow a la Planet of the Apes or something.
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For some reason the F4 have been rumored to be 60s (and then debunked, but I guess now rumored again) for a long time. I think Peyton Reed pitched a 1960s F4 somewhere in there.

I guess it'd make for a somewhat interesting period piece and could explain their absence but I don't know what's wrong with a fresh origin either. Unless they want to start them out as having at least one kid already, which also makes sense.
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redline248 said:

Why 60s?

I wonder if something like 80s, or even 90s given Captain Marvel, might not be more likely. However, I was thinking similar to you. Lost in space somehow a la Planet of the Apes or something.

An ode to when the comic first debuted...



... but I also imagine it would be to help separate this iteration from the past two modern day iterations.

That, and Marvel could really use another period piece at this point. It would feel fresh and novel and I think the '60s would just look cool as well.
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For all we know, the Invisible Woman has already been in every marvel movie.
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TCTTS said:





I'm not understanding this clip. First of all, the Infinity Stones have been around since the 70's in the comics and they were already in the MCU prior to GotG. They were clearly always going to be the key mcguffin of the MCU and the key to Feige's plan... Is he so high in this clip that he thinks he created them or that Feige hadn't already started using them in the other movies?


And he's patting himself on the back for how smart he is for making up their lore in an hour and a half? It's a one-minute clip of exposition from the Collector with a pretty generic explanation that they have existed since the beginning of time and are super powerful... which is basically you know... what they are in the comics.





Not shooting the messenger TC, just kind of a head-scratching humblebrag from Gunn
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Reading through the comments in that thread, while, yes, the Infinity Stones have been around since the '70s, it sounds like there were different origins, iterations, powers, and a different number of stones over the decades? So what James is saying he did is basically took all that and distilled it down to the lore for the movies, somewhat offhandedly, in an hour and half? Like, decided on the final number of stones, their exact origins, colors, the power stone for GOTG, etc.

Either way, I don't necessarily see it as him patting himself on the back, as much as him simply laughing at the fact that there was never some big Marvel meeting to decide it all. He just came up with some random spiel and before he knew it, Marvel treated it as gospel.

Mainly, I posted it because he and Pratt are hilarious together and obviously loopy by this point, from having likely done interviews for hours on end. I just like seeing them lose it like that.
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TCTTS said:

Reading through the comments in that thread, while, yes, the Infinity Stones have been around since the '70s, it sounds like there were different origins, iterations, powers, and different numbers of stones over decades? So what James is saying he did is basically took all that and distilled it down to the lore for the movies, somewhat offhandedly, in an hour and half? Like, decided on the final number of stones, their exact origins, colors, the power stone for GOTG, etc.

Either way, I don't necessarily see it as him patting himself on the back, as much as him simply laughing at the fact that there was never some big Marvel meeting to decide it all. He just came up with some random spiel and before he knew it, Marvel treated it as gospel.

Mainly, I posted it because he and Pratt are hilarious together and obviously loopy by this point, from having likely done interviews for hours on end. I just like seeing them lose it like that.


Exactly

The infinity stones have been anywhere from the size of stones to the size planets. He went off and took what he knew from the comics and made an MCU version that later became gospel
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So if we're ranking the MCU collections (minimum of three films), what do you have?

Mine are:

1. Guardians
2. Avengers
3. Cap
4. Spider-Man
5. Iron Man
6. Ant Man
7. Thor

Avengers would be #1 if not for Ultron
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For me,

1. Guardians
2. Cap
3. Avengers
4. Spider-Man
5. Ant Man
6. Iron Man
7. Thor

Similar to your list. Cap and Avengers are sort of cheating due to the expanded cast of those movies, but honestly the Cap trilogy is damn near perfect.

Sad how bad the drop off from Ragnarok to whatever the last Thor was called.
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1. Avengers by a longshot.
2. This is the toughest spot... I'll say Cap, but its by the thinnest of margins.
3. GotG
4. Spider-Man
5. Iron Man
6. Ant Man
7. Thor
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1. Avengers
2. Spider-Man
3. Iron Man
4. Captain America
5. Guardians of the Galaxy
6. Ant-Man
7. Thor
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My top five are almost interchangeable, save for Avengers being my definitive number one...

1. Avengers
2. Guardians of the Galaxy
3. Spider-Man
4. Captain America
5. Iron Man

And then I'd probably have to say...

6. Ant-Man
7. Thor

... though I like Ragnarok better than any of the Ant-Man movies.
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1. Cap
2. Avengers
3. Guardians
4. Spider-Man
5. Iron Man
6. Ant-Man
7. Thor

I could easily interchange 1 and 2 here, but I have no qualms with anything in the Cap trilogy, whereas I rarely am compelled to rewatch either of the first two Avengers movies, particularly Age of Ultron. The perfection of Winter Soldier along with the solid book-ending entries slightly outweighs the Infinity War+Endgame masterpiece.
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

1. Cap
2. Avengers
3. Guardians
4. Spider-Man
5. Iron Man
6. Ant-Man
7. Thor

I could easily interchange 1 and 2 here, but I have no qualms with anything in the Cap trilogy, whereas I rarely am compelled to rewatch either of the first two Avengers movies, particularly Age of Ultron. The perfection of Winter Soldier along with the solid book-ending entries slightly outweighs the Infinity War+Endgame masterpiece.
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redline248 said:

Why 60s?

I wonder if something like 80s, or even 90s given Captain Marvel, might not be more likely. However, I was thinking similar to you. Lost in space somehow a la Planet of the Apes or something.
It also gives a little more to Doctor Strange's line in Multiverse of Madness when talking to Reed Richards and saying "Didn't you chart in the 60's?" Granted, he could've been referencing a few things there - but the fact that they were alive and already present in the 60's would become canon with that line.
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It's tough but I'm… (without having seen GOTG3 yet, I have a 2 year old and I'm trying)

1. Guardians
2. Cap
3. Avengers
4. Spider-Man
5. Iron Man
6. Ant Man
7. Thor

Winter Soldier's borderline perfection bumps Cap up for me.
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aTmLoKi said:

redline248 said:

Why 60s?

I wonder if something like 80s, or even 90s given Captain Marvel, might not be more likely. However, I was thinking similar to you. Lost in space somehow a la Planet of the Apes or something.
It also gives a little more to Doctor Strange's line in Multiverse of Madness when talking to Reed Richards and saying "Didn't you chart in the 60's?" Granted, he could've been referencing a few things there - but the fact that they were alive and already present in the 60's would become canon with that line.


Could be a joke about fantastic four sounding like a band name, while doubling as a comic joke.
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Farmer1906 said:

1. Avengers by a longshot.
2. This is the toughest spot... I'll say Cap, but its by the thinnest of margins.
3. GotG
4. Spider-Man
5. Iron Man
6. Ant Man
7. Thor


This answer works perfectly for me. Ditto.
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Except that the Infinity Saga was already a comic, and the stones all fit into a glove...

and had the same or extremely similar powers to what they had in the movies...

I don't see how Gunn created that. He might have written that scene in an hour and a half, but the backstory was already there.
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Feels super lazy and unprofessional.
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TCTTS said:

My top five are almost interchangeable, save for Avengers being my definitive number one...

1. Avengers
2. Guardians of the Galaxy
3. Spider-Man
4. Captain America
5. Iron Man

And then I'd probably have to say...

6. Ant-Man
7. Thor

... though I like Ragnarok better than any of the Ant-Man movies.


Swap Ant-Man and Thor and this is mine.
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TCTTS said:


Holy **** this is mind blowing and honestly explains a lot about this phase.
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i'm gonna guess that the wandavision post credit scene was an afterthought b/c they needed to tie it back to what they were doing with MoM.
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MBAR said:

TCTTS said:


Holy **** this is mind blowing and honestly explains a lot about this phase.
Explains a whole lot of why everything after Endgame is so fractured. No cohesiveness to it
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wangus12 said:

MBAR said:

TCTTS said:


Holy **** this is mind blowing and honestly explains a lot about this phase.
Explains a whole lot of why everything after Endgame is so fractured. No cohesiveness to it


Just like they did with Star Wars. Can't believe Disney would just go out an wing it on 2 of the biggest franchises in the world.
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I don't know how much we can draw from that quote. They hadn't watched it because it wasn't finished yet. Other quotes say how Waldron and the WV writers would swap notes. So I don't know what to make of it. It does sound like Waldron and Raimi wanted to do their own thing and probably kicked things into gear quicker in the story than was acceptable to some.
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A film critic both praising and deriding Iron Man, while using all of her powers of alliteration and keeping a thesaurus handy.

Some good in this article. Some not so good.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/movies/2023/05/11/iron-man-anniversary-mcu/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook
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MBAR said:

TCTTS said:


Holy **** this is mind blowing and honestly explains a lot about this phase.


Seriously.

To me the biggest indicator was the fact that we had No Way Home essentially introduce the concept of the multiverse (via Doctor Strange, no less!), and then Multiverse of Madness had absolutely ZERO ties to that movie. No consequences from that movie carried over here, no themes, no anything. How do you not figure out a way to make those feel more connected when they're all part of the same cinematic "universe"? And especially when they both deal with multiverses?

It's just dumb.
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maroon barchetta said:

A film critic both praising and deriding Iron Man, while using all of her powers of alliteration and keeping a thesaurus handy.

Some good in this article. Some not so good.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/movies/2023/05/11/iron-man-anniversary-mcu/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook


I mean, iron man 08 is the best MCU movie by a longshot

Then Disney got greedy
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Ghost of Bisbee said:

maroon barchetta said:

A film critic both praising and deriding Iron Man, while using all of her powers of alliteration and keeping a thesaurus handy.

Some good in this article. Some not so good.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/movies/2023/05/11/iron-man-anniversary-mcu/?utm_campaign=wp_main&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook


I mean, iron man 08 is the best MCU movie by a longshot

Then Disney got greedy
Have it in my top 5, but never have thought it was the best by a longshot

Infinity War
End Game
GOTG 1
GOTG 2
Ragnarok

Not sure I would ever say it far and away was better than those movies
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I think even after all these years Iron Man may be the best looking MCU movie.
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