GotG2 was every bit as good as GotG1. Both are top 5 MCU. Facts.

Opinions.

GotG Vol 1 > GotG Vol 2

1 is better than 2

Side note, Gunn wrote the invisible Drax joke in IW but the rest was Marcus and McFeeley. Gunn was a consultant but he didn't write every line of dialogue or their portion of the script or anything.

I think people have enough handle on the Guardians to carry them into the future. It was bound to happen eventually anyway.

hopefully someone is going through Rian Johnson's old tweets right now

YellowPot_97 said:

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hopefully someone is going through Rian Johnson's old tweets right now

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ha! please, baby Anakin. make it so!

I don't know why people are saying "zero tolerance policy". There's no indication that thats what this is. It wasn't a one time isolated tweet.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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How did this suddenly surface now?

And this is getting pretty ridiculous. We're at the point where decade-old joke tweets are now a fireable offense?

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Why were Gunn's tweets ok when he was hired in 2013 but a fireable offense in 2018?

Roseanne Barr

In firing Barr for her tweets with racist jokes, Disney effectively took the position that if it's employee's social media content did not match the company's values that the employee would be terminated. Now, if Disney fires an employee for racist jokes, how will they react to pedophile jokes? Disney can never be seen even inadvertently endorsing pedophilia.

Keep in mind, this is Disney, not Apple, not GE. Other companies may be able to withstand being seen as not kid firendly, but marketing to children is what Disney does. Star Wars and Marvel and great, but between all the Disney & Pixar movies, Disney channel. Disneyland and all toy merchandise, children's entertain is the cornerstone of Disney's business. If Disney hadn't fired Gunn, the blogosphere would start a campaign "Disney is against racism, but they're okay with pedophilia" and Disney would be sunk. If 10% of parents boycotted Disney, it would affect the bottom line.

Personally, I disagree with online mob justice. However as soon as Disney fired Barr, they were compelled to take action against Gunn.

Or they could've said "We absolutely find what James said reprehensible, but these are comments from several years ago that he has already acknowledged and apologized for. His social media posts since that time are of an entirely different tone and content."

Gunn's tweets were absolutely in poor taste, but he's shown no evidence of the same sort of broadcasted opinions since then. Roseanne's recent comments reinforce other comments and opinions she's publicly made quite recently.

James Gunn is a great director. I take him at his word that he has changed.

Nonetheless DISNEY CANNOT AFFORD TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH PEDOPHILIA, even passively by not firing an employee. And if Disney hadn't fired Gunn, the blogs that dug up his tweets would have accused Disney of defending pedophilia.

Quick history lesson:

In the 1980s, Disney was in a rut producing flops like The Black Cauldron. Michael Eisner comes in put emphasis on quality and turns it into an animated film powerhouse. Little Mermaid, Beauty & the Beast, Aladdin, Lion King. Each film would surpass the previous in ticket sales and got to the point where they were banking almost $1B per animated film. Then in 1995, Disney was accused of inserting subliminal messages in their films. Parents stopped taking their kids to see their films (speaking from experience) and sales plummeted. Pocahontas, Hunchback of Notre Dame, and Hercules all grossed a meager $300M. Rumors, even if they aren't true, can damage a company's revenue.

Firing Gunn was not an ethical or moral decision. It was a business decision. Disney must maintain a family friendly image. Their bottom line depends on it.

Bobcat06 said:

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James Gunn is a great director. I take him at his word that he has changed.

Nonetheless DISNEY CANNOT AFFORD TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH PEDOPHILIA, even passively by not firing an employee. And if Disney hadn't fired Gunn, the blogs that dug up his tweets would have accused Disney of defending pedophilia.

Quick history lesson:

In the 1980s, Disney was in a rut producing flops like The Black Cauldron. Michael Eisner comes in put emphasis on quality and turns it into an animated film powerhouse. Little Mermaid, Beauty & the Beast, Aladdin, Lion King. Each film would surpass the previous in ticket sales and got to the point where they were banking almost $1B per animated film. Then in 1995, Disney was accused of inserting subliminal messages in their films. Parents stopped taking their kids to see their films (speaking from experience) and sales plummeted. Pocahontas, Hunchback of Notre Dame, and Hercules all grossed a meager $300M. Rumors, even if they aren't true, can damage a company's revenue.

Firing Gunn was not an ethical or moral decision. It was a business decision. Disney must maintain a family friendly image. Their bottom line depends on it.

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First, that reaction was in the 1990's, compared to what the public's reaction today would be.

Second, that was animated children's movies. This is live-action movies geared toward older kids and adults. And they're seen more as a Marvel property than a Disney/Pixar type of thing.

Third, those were images inserted into actual movies. This is about tweets over 8 years old that have nothing to do with current Marvel/Disney movies.

Apples and oranges.

Bobcat06 said:

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James Gunn is a great director. I take him at his word that he has changed.

Nonetheless DISNEY CANNOT AFFORD TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH PEDOPHILIA, even passively by not firing an employee. And if Disney hadn't fired Gunn, the blogs that dug up his tweets would have accused Disney of defending pedophilia.

Quick history lesson:

In the 1980s, Disney was in a rut producing flops like The Black Cauldron. Michael Eisner comes in put emphasis on quality and turns it into an animated film powerhouse. Little Mermaid, Beauty & the Beast, Aladdin, Lion King. Each film would surpass the previous in ticket sales and got to the point where they were banking almost $1B per animated film. Then in 1995, Disney was accused of inserting subliminal messages in their films. Parents stopped taking their kids to see their films (speaking from experience) and sales plummeted. Pocahontas, Hunchback of Notre Dame, and Hercules all grossed a meager $300M. Rumors, even if they aren't true, can damage a company's revenue.

Firing Gunn was not an ethical or moral decision. It was a business decision. Disney must maintain a family friendly image. Their bottom line depends on it.

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This is a serious post?

Bobcat06 said:

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James Gunn is a great director. I take him at his word that he has changed.

Nonetheless DISNEY CANNOT AFFORD TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH PEDOPHILIA, even passively by not firing an employee. And if Disney hadn't fired Gunn, the blogs that dug up his tweets would have accused Disney of defending pedophilia.

Quick history lesson:

In the 1980s, Disney was in a rut producing flops like The Black Cauldron. Michael Eisner comes in put emphasis on quality and turns it into an animated film powerhouse. Little Mermaid, Beauty & the Beast, Aladdin, Lion King. Each film would surpass the previous in ticket sales and got to the point where they were banking almost $1B per animated film. Then in 1995, Disney was accused of inserting subliminal messages in their films. Parents stopped taking their kids to see their films (speaking from experience) and sales plummeted. Pocahontas, Hunchback of Notre Dame, and Hercules all grossed a meager $300M. Rumors, even if they aren't true, can damage a company's revenue.

Firing Gunn was not an ethical or moral decision. It was a business decision. Disney must maintain a family friendly image. Their bottom line depends on it.

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You may want to fact check your box office stats. Lion King was the only one that approached a billion dollars. Pocahontas made more than Little Mermaid and wasn't that far behind Beauty and the Beast. Pocahontas and all the others after weren't that much different than the other Disney movies of the early 90s besides Lion King, which was an outlier for that era. Those movies did make less, but it had more to do with being inferior movies than the conspiracy subliminal message crap.

The Black Cauldron, good or not, is one of the worst box office flops of all time and nearly forced Disney to bankrupt its feature animation arm.

Cholo Thanos and the Infinity Chancla at San Diego Comic-Con 2018

sometimes the best cosplays have a budget of $1.98

AliasMan02 said:

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I know this is true, but isn't it reasonable to assume that it's no longer business as usual at Fox and that there are projects that have been put on hold, just from uncertainty?

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That seems shortsighted. If the deal falls through, then Fox is completely screwed if they have no content to sell and then their cash flow drys up. From a business standpoint, you would have to continue to operate normally until the deal is actually finalized, right?