*** MARVEL CINEMATIC UNIVERSE *** [Staff message on OP]

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Venom is maybe my favorite character, but I'm gonna need a lot more serial. There was once talk of this being a non-MCU solo film, after all.

Weird way of announcing it, too - is that twitter account legit...?
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Sony sent out a press release. That was just one of the first twitter accounts to run the news.
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Gotcha! Still strange though. And worrisome if it's Sony.

Infinity War speculation was that maybe Peter would get the black suit in that film, so this would make sense if it releases 5 months later, but I need MCU confirmation to give a damn. Becaue, as we all know, Sony wanted an Aunt Mae solo film.
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Becaue, as we all know, Sony wanted an Aunt Mae solo film.



Sony is gonna pull off the mother of all surprises and give us an Aunt Mae solo film... in which she gets the Venom symbiote!

1.5 billion worldwide guaranteed
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Bobcat06 said:

dromo07 said:

rumors are that the movie Life coming out is a prequel to venom
http://www.polygon.com/2017/3/14/14926538/spider-man-3-footage-life-trailer
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As you can tell, the man with the mustache from Spider-Man 3 is gone, but the images are one and the same.
The hot blonde is missing also.

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It's more likely, however, that Columbia needed to use an image of people looking shocked and scared, and decided to reuse some footage it already owned instead of shooting more.
Based on the above, that can't be the case.
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It's a diversion
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I don't think we've talked about this. Fell into a clickbait rabbit hole this morning but came out with a wikileaked email from Kevin Feige to Sony about the mess that was The Amazing Spider-Man 2.

This is the article and the wikileaks post:

https://goo.gl/IBhBii <-- link shortened because the original has a censored word in it
https://wikileaks.org/sony/emails/emailid/88763

The article isn't worth reading other than it points out that Feige had no stake at all in this movie, and actually had a lot to gain by it failing miserably, but tried to help anyway. Sony ignored almost all of his points.

Feige's notes:

Recap of Kevin Feige Notes - 11.19,13
There are too many story lines and we need to choose which ones we are focusing on and lift out the other ones, ie; could reduce father arc to just Roosevelt?

Could cut out plane crash and Richard destroying spiders and start on armored car don't start with Spider-Man.let the danger/stakes to NYC build first and then have Spider-Man enter the scene heroically.

Tone down Paul Giamatti performance, so he seems a bit more menacing and less cartoonish.

If you cut Richard from the opening and the plane crash maybe you could instead do Harry coming home and seeing Norman at the top of the movie as a cold open.

Really love Electro feels like you may not need the scene in his apartment, which makes him seems completely crazy and hard to relate too.

Like the idea that eel goes in his mouth and instead of burrowing, you see it glow within him

Need to set up the Power Plant earlier, visually.

Seems like the movie switches pov's a lotwhy are we in Max's pov during the car chase, worth looking at this playing out from Spidey's pov.

There could be a better way to reveal that Peter is missing graduation maybe when you cut Gwen you cut to the wide shot?

Tiny note don't think Peter would lie to Gwen about sirens --- maybe he just downplays it

Stan Lee Cameo maybe need a little more emphasis on Peter here trying to get out of his costume and not be in seenset up a little more the pressure of the principal getting closer and closer to calling his name.

Instead of seeing the ghost of Captain Stacy, can just here the voice in Peter's head and maybe flash back to the last movie? Don't think we should add Cap Stacy back into car chase.

There is too much back and forth with Peter and Gwen can we recut the Dim Sum scene so that it doesn't feel so repetitive of their break-up in the last movie Can Peter be more honorable and definitive and less wishy-washy?

Why do we need a year to pass

Harry story feels like the main plot of the movie Peter should look into the past b/c of Harry maybe find some photos of them together as kidsuse obsession wall more to set up this part of his past not just what happened to parents.

Not sure what Peter learns at Roosevelt is entirely correct. We're distracted by the idea that Peter became Spider-Man b/c of his father's blood --- all this special back story with his super-scientist dad fights with the idea that Peter is normal kid from Queens who becomes the greatest super-hero in the world

Andrew's performance is all over the placea lot of crying and then a lot of mania. Hard to track him emotionally sometimes. It undermines his reaction to Gwen's death b/c he gets upset and emotional a lot.

Don't like the idea that May tells Peter his parents were spies b/c two seconds later he finds out they are not and it again fights with the idea that he's an ordinary kid.

Like the idea that May finds out he's Spider-Man finds his costume instead of just the rosemary harris wink-wink all the time.

Kind of like the morgue, but hate the dancing mortician clich.

Are you using VFX to show how Electro is travelling from one point to another (bursts of electricity).

Need to underscore capture of goblinmore sirens as you linger on the clock 1;21, 1:22 am (nice touch).

Surveillance scene should be about following Harry not Peterno one should be following Peter.

Can Electro hum Itsy-Bitsy Spider before he plays it electronicallymaybe we can use this again.

Maybe intercut the ending montage and hearing Gwen's speech with someone going into special projects and revealing more easter eggs and see that the rhino case has been broke into and the suit is missinggreat way to transition to rhino ending.

Don't need Aunt May in the kitchen.

Spider-man needs to feel more directly responsible for preventing the planes from crashing.

Don't show New Yorkers looting.
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the idea that Peter is normal kid from Queens who becomes the greatest super-hero in the world
Is Spider-Man Feige's favorite?
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This is super interesting stuff, thanks for posting. And Feige is spot on, as usual.
rhutton125
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Feige's email there is the main reason why I'm terrified of a Sony-led solo Venom film.
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rhutton125 said:

Feige's email there is the main reason why I'm terrified of a Sony-led solo Venom film.
I would think (hope) that we'll continue to see Marvel's involvement with the Sony films as they progress forward, particularly if we're wrapping the SCU (Spidey Cinematic Universe) into the MCU.

And I just started thinking about how cool it could be for the Guardians to find the symbiote...
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israeliag said:

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the idea that Peter is normal kid from Queens who becomes the greatest super-hero in the world
Is Spider-Man Feige's favorite?
I don't know if he is Feige's personal favorite or not, but I believe the official stance of Marvel Comics (not Studios) would be that Spider-man is the greatest superhero in the world.
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Red Five said:

israeliag said:

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the idea that Peter is normal kid from Queens who becomes the greatest super-hero in the world
Is Spider-Man Feige's favorite?
I don't know if he is Feige's personal favorite or not, but I believe the official stance of Marvel Comics (not Studios) would be that Spider-man is the greatest superhero in the world.
http://variety.com/2015/film/news/details-spider-man-appear-in-sony-and-marvel-movies-1201429039/


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Sony needed to breathe life into its "Spider-Man" franchise; by lending its character to Marvel, it has a way to generate more exposure for its bigscreen hero. Doing so also creates some serious goodwill among Spider-Man fans, who have wanted to see the character become part of the Avengers.

Marvel now gets access to one of the comicbook company's most popular characters it already controlled the rights for TV, merchandise and other platforms, but the holy grail for Disney has lately been film, where it has been able to launch franchises that impact the bottom line of all of its various divisions.

Even though Sony has the movie rights, and can basically treat the character however they see fit, Marvel retained the merchandising rights (action figures, lunch boxes, etc). So Marvel has a strong interest in the movies' success. Even though Spidey was not in the MCU, it was in Marvel's best interest for Spidey films to be good and to push merchandise.

So I would imagine that Feige was motivated in protecting the Marvel brand, as well as just wanting to assist Sony/Fox/etc in putting out a good product.

Obviously, they didn't listen. But it looks like it will all work out in the long run.
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I'm curious what the Channing Tatum Venom pitch was. It sounds like he was really excited about it.
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nickstro66 said:

I'm curious what the Channing Tatum Venom pitch was. It sounds like he was really excited about it.
21 Venom Street
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fig96 said:

And I just started thinking about how cool it could be for the Guardians to find the symbiote...

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TexasAggie_02 said:

nickstro66 said:

I'm curious what the Channing Tatum Venom pitch was. It sounds like he was really excited about it.
21 Venom Street

I would totally watch a movie with Jenko as Venom, Schmitt as Spider Man, and Ice Cube as J. Jonah Jameson.

"Shut the **** up and get me a damn picture of Spider Man"
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Sex Panther said:

TexasAggie_02 said:

nickstro66 said:

I'm curious what the Channing Tatum Venom pitch was. It sounds like he was really excited about it.
21 Venom Street

I would totally watch a movie with Jenko as Venom, Schmitt as Spider Man, and Ice Cube as J. Jonah Jameson.

"Shut the **** up and get me a damn picture of Spider Man"
INFILTRATE THE AVENGERS, FIND THE SPIDERMAN!
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rhutton125 said:

Feige's email there is the main reason why I'm terrified of a Sony-led solo Venom film.
Well the first thing he has to do is find someone better at a jazz club scene than Tobey Maguire.
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Kevin Feige is the reason MCU has worked. In the end he is a fan and a movie producer.. sure we have had some dud ideas but the majority of the movies have been amazing.

I can't see Warner Brother making a good Guardians, Avengers, Capt America 2. .. I am now very excited about Thor 3.. might be the best of the three. Thor and Hulk partner movie sounds awesome.

The note to Sony highlights how much Kevin gets the MCU .. all his points are spot on. I would love to see what his team would have done w/ the script of Amazing Spiderman 1 & 2.
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Do you think if Feige would have been able to do Amazon Spider-Man 1&2 that Andrew Garfield would be the most popular current super hero actor? Does Cap, Thor, or Ironman become as popular?
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GiveEmHellBill
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I hope that it only looks like this under a blacklight.
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TajMaballer said:


That just looks ****ing cool as hell
rhutton125
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http://screenrant.com/spider-man-silver-sable-black-cat-movie-sony/

Not MCU, no Feige.

Can someone remind Sony why they had to make the Spider-Man deal with Disney to begin with?
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Not sure how this hasn't been posted here yet, but Chris Pratt just became even more awesome with his most recent facebook post

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1475915149106976&id=116470741718097&_ft_=top_level_post_id.1475915149106976%3Atl_objid.1475915149106976%3Athrowback_story_fbid.1475915149106976&__tn__=%2C%3B
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I thought Cinco de Mayo was already a national holiday
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rhutton125 said:

http://screenrant.com/spider-man-silver-sable-black-cat-movie-sony/

Not MCU, no Feige.

Can someone remind Sony why they had to make the Spider-Man deal with Disney to begin with?


You know what people are dying to see? Movies featuring totally unknown Spider-Man characters that don't feature Spider-Man, made by Sony.

Seriously, how do they get here logically? "All right, after all the damage we caused the Spider-Man brand has been reinvigorated thanks to the MCU. Go write me a script about Silver Sable."
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Yeah, well, its more of an "excuse for gringos to get drunk after work" holiday. They dont even celebrate it in Mexico.

Pretty sure Pratt's talking about more of "everyone takes the day off and shoots off fireworks" holiday. Like on the level of New Years Eve, but better.
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wangus12 said:

I thought Cinco de Mayo was already a national holiday


I do my celebrating on May 4th.....
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And while I'm on the Arrested Development kick:

A Silver Sable/Black Cat movie?



Attention Sony: No one wants this.
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Guarantee 99% of the general public will get Black Cat confused with Catwoman and get mad when Batman doesn't make a cameo in the movie.
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wangus12 said:

I thought Cinco de Mayo was already a national holiday
It is. It's my birthday! Cinco de ME-o
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GiveEmHellBill said:

wangus12 said:

I thought Cinco de Mayo was already a national holiday


I do my celebrating on May 4th.....
Star Wars Day

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