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Civil War seems, to me, to have the easiest marketing job ever. I guess the first Avengers might compare, but even then. "Who's side are you on?" I picture like, half the theater having red Iron Man shirts on and the other half having blue Captain America shirts. The split picture with Stark / Rodgers faces is awesome.

Infinitely easier to promote and get social media buzzing about than something like "Age of Ultron." I like the character, and the title, but few names are as nerdy to the uninformed viewer than Ultron.

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This. Throw in Spider-Man and Black Panther, plus the entire new team from the end of AOU, plus a ton more familiar faces, and this movie sells itself. The way you put it, though, I just realized we're going to have two "Civil War" superhero movies within six weeks of each other, factoring in Batman v Superman in late March (Civil War is early May). I wonder if there's going to be any fatigue from that in any way?

I just want to see Hulk vs Thanos fight before he's got the stones

I kinda feel like civil war should have ended phase 2. Maybe they should have done an iron man 4 with ultron as the villain. Stark could have still built him, and Cap/Rhodey come in at the end to save Tony's ass.

Introduce quicksilver and Scarlett witch, kill quicksilver (or not). Let iron man 4 be the catalyst for the rift, then have 'Avengers: Civil War' instead of 'Cap America: Civil War'

Then have Cap 3 be about the fallout/finding Bucky/flesh out scarlet witch. Maybe she can help Bucky get his memories back.

I just realized I used the wrong form of "whose." My b.

It may depend on how BvS markets itself. I mean, the title is Batman vs. Superman... but also Dawn of Justice. So unless them fighting each other is a bit that gets dismantled halfway through the movie (kind of like the Avengers uniting to fight Loki and the Chitauri), or it's a true head-to-head movie from start to mostly-finish (like how we expect Civil War to be).

Even then, I think the buzz surrounding BvS is that it's Batman and Superman together on film for the first time. I don't think the premise will take much of Cap 3's luster, but we shall see.

It's also possible for a little Batman fatigue, but since the trilogy is so well-regarded I don't expect that to be the case. Still, they'd be smart to market some of the differences between the Batmans - like the armored suit in the teaser.

Yep, what TC said. Civil War will be huge. Which is why I said a few pages back that I think they should drop the Captain America and just go with either Marvel Civil War, or Avengers: Civil War.

This movie seems like a watershed moment of the series. In many ways, it seems like the TRUE "middle film" of the Avengers universe, more so than AoU.

Figured I'd throw my 2 cents in on all this, see what you guys think.

Civil War, while I'm sad they aren't going the comic route I'm still REAL excited about it. I almost peed when I saw "The New Avengers" caption at the end of AoU......sooo wanted to see SpeedBall and such.

I don't see them killing Cap in Civil War. I just went back and read the comic I have (Avengers Civil War) and it ends with Cap giving up and being arrested and then Stark flying off with SHIELD. I know he dies BECAUSE of the civil war, but not during. I have a Google drive with all 83 Civil War stories if anyone's interested......

I caught a very small hint in AoU about Hulk. I remember him talking to BW and saying something about "finding a way to control it" or something. Anyone else see him being shot into space (Planet Hulk style) and finding the GotG?

I'd be interested in the Civil War Stories

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I kinda feel like civil war should have ended phase 2. Maybe they should have done an iron man 4 with ultron as the villain. Stark could have still built him, and Cap/Rhodey come in at the end to save Tony's ass.

Introduce quicksilver and Scarlett witch, kill quicksilver (or not). Let iron man 4 be the catalyst for the rift, then have 'Avengers: Civil War' instead of 'Cap America: Civil War'

Then have Cap 3 be about the fallout/finding Bucky/flesh out scarlet witch. Maybe she can help Bucky get his memories back.

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I was thinking about this during my afternoon commute, and it makes a ton of sense... but I think only after having seen AoU. Before AoU, it would be weird.

For example, my understanding is that Ultron is traditionally a Pym creation that the Avengers face repeatedly. AoU made him into a Stark/Banner creation for the Avengers to fight, but making it purely an Iron Man creation and villain would be like making Magneto a Captain America villain. Likewise, having the twins hate Stark because of a bomb that killed their family, Tony being his worst enemy and creating villains for himself... it'd kind of be a rehash of Iron Man 3, in a way.

In a sense, I'm surprised AoU worked as well as it did. On paper it's a bit crazy - mutants who aren't mutants in this universe, who hate Stark even though we've seen that before (Killian in IM3), flying robots (IM2), team motif (Avengers), Hulk out of control (Avengers), Tony fearing what's beyond space and not doing enough (IM3)...

...and yet for the most part I really enjoyed this movie.

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I just realized I used the wrong form of "whose." My b.

It may depend on how BvS markets itself. I mean, the title is Batman vs. Superman... but also Dawn of Justice. So unless them fighting each other is a bit that gets dismantled halfway through the movie (kind of like the Avengers uniting to fight Loki and the Chitauri), or it's a true head-to-head movie from start to mostly-finish (like how we expect Civil War to be).

Even then, I think the buzz surrounding BvS is that it's Batman and Superman together on film for the first time. I don't think the premise will take much of Cap 3's luster, but we shall see.

It's also possible for a little Batman fatigue, but since the trilogy is so well-regarded I don't expect that to be the case. Still, they'd be smart to market some of the differences between the Batmans - like the armored suit in the teaser.

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To me that's the odd part of what BvS looks to be shaping up to be (wrong thread, I know). I'm trying to see how we're going to get into this split of the two heroes/JLA/whatever before we know anything much about them...just seems like a strange way to approach it.

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I just realized I used the wrong form of "whose." My b.

It may depend on how BvS markets itself. I mean, the title is Batman vs. Superman... but also Dawn of Justice. So unless them fighting each other is a bit that gets dismantled halfway through the movie (kind of like the Avengers uniting to fight Loki and the Chitauri), or it's a true head-to-head movie from start to mostly-finish (like how we expect Civil War to be).

Even then, I think the buzz surrounding BvS is that it's Batman and Superman together on film for the first time. I don't think the premise will take much of Cap 3's luster, but we shall see.

It's also possible for a little Batman fatigue, but since the trilogy is so well-regarded I don't expect that to be the case. Still, they'd be smart to market some of the differences between the Batmans - like the armored suit in the teaser.

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To me that's the odd part of what BvS looks to be shaping up to be (wrong thread, I know). I'm trying to see how we're going to get into this split of the two heroes/JLA/whatever before we know anything much about them...just seems like a strange way to approach it.

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What about Supes and the Bat do we NOT already know????

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I just realized I used the wrong form of "whose." My b.

It may depend on how BvS markets itself. I mean, the title is Batman vs. Superman... but also Dawn of Justice. So unless them fighting each other is a bit that gets dismantled halfway through the movie (kind of like the Avengers uniting to fight Loki and the Chitauri), or it's a true head-to-head movie from start to mostly-finish (like how we expect Civil War to be).

Even then, I think the buzz surrounding BvS is that it's Batman and Superman together on film for the first time. I don't think the premise will take much of Cap 3's luster, but we shall see.

It's also possible for a little Batman fatigue, but since the trilogy is so well-regarded I don't expect that to be the case. Still, they'd be smart to market some of the differences between the Batmans - like the armored suit in the teaser.

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To me that's the odd part of what BvS looks to be shaping up to be (wrong thread, I know). I'm trying to see how we're going to get into this split of the two heroes/JLA/whatever before we know anything much about them...just seems like a strange way to approach it.

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What about Supes and the Bat do we NOT already know????

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We know them, but nothing about how they or the other characters relate to each other or this world. I'd think you would bring them together before putting them against each other.

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I just realized I used the wrong form of "whose." My b.

It may depend on how BvS markets itself. I mean, the title is Batman vs. Superman... but also Dawn of Justice. So unless them fighting each other is a bit that gets dismantled halfway through the movie (kind of like the Avengers uniting to fight Loki and the Chitauri), or it's a true head-to-head movie from start to mostly-finish (like how we expect Civil War to be).

Even then, I think the buzz surrounding BvS is that it's Batman and Superman together on film for the first time. I don't think the premise will take much of Cap 3's luster, but we shall see.

It's also possible for a little Batman fatigue, but since the trilogy is so well-regarded I don't expect that to be the case. Still, they'd be smart to market some of the differences between the Batmans - like the armored suit in the teaser.

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To me that's the odd part of what BvS looks to be shaping up to be (wrong thread, I know). I'm trying to see how we're going to get into this split of the two heroes/JLA/whatever before we know anything much about them...just seems like a strange way to approach it.

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Who would win in a fight.

Is Krypto the Superdog involved?

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batman apparently doesn't know if superman bleeds...does that count?

Good summary write-up of the infinity stones...

http://www.vox.com/2015/5/12/8587925/infinity-stones-marvel-age-of-ultron

Good little read. I think it's right - the Soul Gem in Doctor Strange makes about as much sense as anywhere.

The only thing I don't like is that it seems like all the gems found there way on earth... In a huge universe... More than one stone should never be near the other... If dr strange has one, the vision has one and the tesseract were all on earth... That's 3 out of 6.... Nova prime has 1, the tesseract is back on Asgard, and the collect has 1 or 2? I know he has the ether, but I thought t the end credit scene in Thor 2 he was like now I have 2 of them or something

Just a guess but Doctor Strange's will probably be in another dimension or something. Sounds like he deals with that stuff regularly.

Definitely see you point though

I think they need to be closer to each other than normal, that is what makes it so Thanos can get them. If it was easy to get them from the different corners across universes he would have gotten them already.

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The only thing I don't like is that it seems like all the gems found there way on earth... In a huge universe... More than one stone should never be near the other... If dr strange has one, the vision has one and the tesseract were all on earth... That's 3 out of 6.... Nova prime has 1, the tesseract is back on Asgard, and the collect has 1 or 2? I know he has the ether, but I thought t the end credit scene in Thor 2 he was like now I have 2 of them or something

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at the end of Thor 2, he says "1 down.......5 to go." If he had gotten the power Gem in GOTG, then he would have had two of them.

the tessaract was on earth. That was just one.

The mind gem was given to Loki by Thanos. Thanos risked losing 1 gem in order to gain 1. There just didn't happen to be 2 gems on earth, it was deliberate.

You are assuming that there is a 3rd one on earth, when you have no reason to back that up.

Tessaract: Asgard
Mind Gem: Earth/Vision
Power Gem: Nova Prime
Aether: The Collector/Nowhere

I think you both have good points. If Stone #5 shows up on an Earth film, and Stone #6 shows up on an Earth film, we'll have had 4 of 6 on Earth in the span of 4 years or so.

But if Dr. Strange discovers the Soul Gem in another dimension, or some kind of dream rift or something supernatural, it'll avoid that problem. And since the Mind Gem was sent to Earth in an effort to gain the Space Gem (Tesseract), that makes sense there too. Aether was in some other plane (discovered by Jane Foster through a portal from Earth), and Power Gem has never been near Earth.

So that's not too bad. Not sure where the Time Gem will show up, or how it will be used without really screwing with a movie, but that's for the writers to figure out.

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The mind gem was given to Loki by Thanos. Thanos risked losing 1 gem in order to gain 1. There just didn't happen to be 2 gems on earth, it was deliberate.

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I never understood why that happened though. Since Loki used the Tesseract to transport to Earth, why did he even need the mind gem? He could haven just grabbed it then warped back to outer space (although it would have made a much shorter and less interesting Avengers).

I'm not sure on the logistics of the portals, but Loki wanted to conquer Earth. I guess he was given the scepter and the army, and in return would give the Tesseract to Thanos - and presumably the scepter back as well.

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I'm not sure on the logistics of the portals, but Loki wanted to conquer Earth. I guess he was given the scepter and the army, and in return would give the Tesseract to Thanos - and presumably the scepter back as well.

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Correct.

And the Soul Gem won't be on Earth. It will be with Quill's father, expected to be Adam Warlock in the MCU.

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The mind gem was given to Loki by Thanos. Thanos risked losing 1 gem in order to gain 1. There just didn't happen to be 2 gems on earth, it was deliberate.

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I never understood why that happened though. Since Loki used the Tesseract to transport to Earth, why did he even need the mind gem? He could haven just grabbed it then warped back to outer space (although it would have made a much shorter and less interesting Avengers).

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we didn't know that Thanos was pulling the strings until mid-credits. Loki wanted revenge on Thor. He even refers to earth at one point as "your beloved Earth" (can't remember if that was in avengers or in a thor movie). Thanos is picking people to do his dirty work for them, they bring back a stone, and he rewards them. In this case, Loki would rule over earth (never mind the fact that Thanos would probably kill him once he has the gauntlet.

Anyways, loki fails, and Thanos loses out on two stones. In GOTG, Thanos has Ronin doing his bidding, with the same disastrous result. By making shadow deals with evil megalomaniacs, he can hide his involvement. Losing a stone here or there to would be cause for alarm, but there is no tie back to Thanos. Ronin and loki were dealt with, and he can try again later.

Are we thinking that Quill's father will appear in GotG 2?

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we didn't know that Thanos was pulling the strings until mid-credits. Loki wanted revenge on Thor. He even refers to earth at one point as "your beloved Earth" (can't remember if that was in avengers or in a thor movie). Thanos is picking people to do his dirty work for them, they bring back a stone, and he rewards them. In this case, Loki would rule over earth (never mind the fact that Thanos would probably kill him once he has the gauntlet.

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I believe he's used that phrase in EVERY movie so far.

From director Q&A, Guardians 1 story lines are expected to be tied up or addressed in the sequel - most prominent of which would be Quill's father. It's supposed to be different from the comics, and since we're still missing the Soul Gem, I think most expect his dad to be Adam Warlock. I'd forgotten about that.

Now the Time Gem, that's anyone's guess.

Anyone ever think we'll see Marvels Winter Guard? I was watching a episode of avengers assemble the other day and it was an episode about them, I had to google then, but they are actually really cool. I thought the steel guardian was pretty sweet... Would be cool to seem them on the big screen

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because Thanos is thirsty...... for conquest!

When people are trying to open a bottle without an opener, you bust that thing out.

"Fine, I'll do it myself."

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When people are trying to open a bottle without an opener, you bust that thing out.

"Fine, I'll do it myself."

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Nice