In both cases, the lack of charges being filed doesn't negate the other obvious conclusions we can draw from the facts known. I'd be surprised if he's retained at this point.The Porkchop Express said:
Combine the texts with her refusing to comply to press charges or serve as a witness and he's not going to get charged or tried. Just like what happened to Chris Beard.
Then things get really uncomfortable for Marvel, because you're either firing someone who didn't get convicted or you're not firing someone who everyone thinks is guilty. You'll probably wind up with him doing an Oprah interview about where his rage comes from and winding up opneing some center for battered women with Kamala Harris and doing a bunch of press so they don't have to change it to Avengers: The MODOK Dynasty in 2026.
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fig96 said:In both cases, the lack of charges being filed doesn't negate the other obvious conclusions we can draw from the facts known. I'd be surprised if he's retained at this point.The Porkchop Express said:
Combine the texts with her refusing to comply to press charges or serve as a witness and he's not going to get charged or tried. Just like what happened to Chris Beard.
Then things get really uncomfortable for Marvel, because you're either firing someone who didn't get convicted or you're not firing someone who everyone thinks is guilty. You'll probably wind up with him doing an Oprah interview about where his rage comes from and winding up opneing some center for battered women with Kamala Harris and doing a bunch of press so they don't have to change it to Avengers: The MODOK Dynasty in 2026.
Like Porkchop, I had completely forgot about the Loki season two of it all, and I wonder how heavily that will affect Marvel's decision. Originally, I was thinking Majors hadn't filmed anything more beyond Quantumania, so it'd be easier to cut him loose. But given that he's apparently a big part of Loki season two, given how much that season must have cost, how damn near impossible it would be to reshoot any time soon, and that it drops in September, Marvel's decision is potentially even tougher than I realized.
That said, whether he's charged or not, yeah, it's beyond apparent now that Majors assaulted this woman. And if Marvel retains him, they're going to hear about it from a loud, angry contingent for YEARS (and justifiably so). Majors won't be able to do a single bit of press for the remainder of his stint, and certain filmmakers/cast members may even refuse to work with him. So there's all that to deal with as well.
At this point, if I had to guess, I don't know that Marvel has any other choice but to can him and scrap the second season of Loki. Then maybe try to reshoot it in a year or so? I don't know. Then again, perhaps they see The Flash as the blueprint, and they try and ignore their way out of it. If so, I think people would to be WAY more vocal about Majors than Miller, fairly or unfairly, depending on how you look at it. Either way, what a sh*tty, unwindable conundrum.
He's probably in S2 a lot more than he was in S1, but it's probably still limited, maybe..? It'd take a lot of reshooting, and the Quantumania post-credits implied that Loki recognized him by face so you'd have to write around that, but… maybe worth $10 million to reshoot?
Eesh… sucks.
Eesh… sucks.
That's why I was saying, just have loki kill him off and/or introduce another actor. There have already been multiple loki and Spiderman actors across the multiverse. Not to mention changing actors within the same universe (Banner, Rhodes, Ross, Fandral).
rhutton125 said:
He's probably in S2 a lot more than he was in S1, but it's probably still limited, maybe..? It'd take a lot of reshooting, and the Quantumania post-credits implied that Loki recognized him by face so you'd have to write around that, but… maybe worth $10 million to reshoot?
Eesh… sucks.
Yeah, it sounds like he's in a lot more than one episode this time, but I doubt he's in every episode, and probably not super prominently at that. That said, I think it'd be less about cost and more about scheduling. They'd have to recast the role, rebuild the sets, rehire the director(s) and crew, and then find the time when everyone happens to be available again all at once. Best case scenario, even if all they need is, say, a week (though I think it'd almost assuredly be longer, if not a month or more), that's still really, really hard to pull off any time remotely soon. We'd be looking at a release sometime in the first half of 2024 at the earliest, if not an entire year delay.
TexasAggie_02 said:
That's why I was saying, just have loki kill him off and/or introduce another actor. There have already been multiple loki and Spiderman actors across the multiverse. Not to mention changing actors within the same universe (Banner, Rhodes, Ross, Fandral).
That would still mean reshoots for Loki season two, and it almost assuredly not releasing in September as planned. Maybe they could pull it off - it's not unheard of - but again, it all depends on availability.
I'm not so sure. I especially see a number of pissed off women, and the contingent would only grow once the announcement was made that they're keeping him. Yes, we're in this weird limbo right now, but the second either the video is released, or Marvel makes it official they're keeping him, things will ratchet up considerably. If anything, the more I think about it, there's no way multiple female cast members don't either make their voices heard, or outright refuse to work with him, or both. I just can't see someone like Brie Larson or Charlize Theron being cool with being in the same scene with him in Kang Dynasty or whatever.
You might ultimately be right. That's what's so crazy about this whole thing, is that there's complete and utter justification to fire him, but then complete and utter precedent to keep him, considering the whole Flash situation. If anything, if Marvel does end up keeping him, Majors should fork over a percentage of his earnings for the rest of his career to Miller and WB, because they'll be the ones who truly saved his ass.
And, if he's retained with no charges pressed, he seriously needs to consider this a wake up call and get some help.
To play devil's advocate, how would it look for Marvel to pull the plug on him when Marvel's entire film success is because of a guy who has been arrested 6 times and spent more than a year in prison? RDJ got about 13 second chances in acting, but Jonathan Majors gets none?
Flash was already filmed when he did all the crazy ***** They would have had to basically reshoot an entire movie. Not really comparable to the Majors situation.
I don't think RDJ ever assaulted women though did he?
I'd say it's definitely one thing to harm yourself with drugs and alcohol, but obviously something completely different (and much worse) to harm someone else with physical abuse.
That said, while the vast majority of Downey Jr.'s issues were of the latter sort, he did apparently punch a girlfriend and an officer in '97, while under the influence. However, he "paid the price" so to speak, and was basically excommunicated from Hollywood for years. Then, once he cleaned up his act, he was given a second a chance and the rest is history.
I'm all for Majors being given a second chance as well, but I feel like he'd need to be on the receiving end of *some kind* of consequences first, make a heartfelt public apology, and then go from there. Right now, though, it looks like he's doing the opposite and doubling down.
That said, while the vast majority of Downey Jr.'s issues were of the latter sort, he did apparently punch a girlfriend and an officer in '97, while under the influence. However, he "paid the price" so to speak, and was basically excommunicated from Hollywood for years. Then, once he cleaned up his act, he was given a second a chance and the rest is history.
I'm all for Majors being given a second chance as well, but I feel like he'd need to be on the receiving end of *some kind* of consequences first, make a heartfelt public apology, and then go from there. Right now, though, it looks like he's doing the opposite and doubling down.
C@LAg said:true, but weren't all RDJs issues all self-inflected and on himself. Not violence inflicted on others like Miller/Majors?.The Porkchop Express said:
To play devil's advocate, how would it look for Marvel to pull the plug on him when Marvel's entire film success is because of a guy who has been arrested 6 times and spent more than a year in prison? RDJ got about 13 second chances in acting, but Jonathan Majors gets none?
And RDJ wasn't doing anything like this after the #metoo movement brought so much attention.
You could say RDJ got canceled for a long time. He was not in my field of vision for years until 2008 when Iron Man came out.
C@LAg said:not that dissimilar.Brian Earl Spilner said:
Flash was already filmed when he did all the crazy ***** They would have had to basically reshoot an entire movie. Not really comparable to the Majors situation.
they considered scrapping it entirely as one of the options since they were already doing full write-offs of many other projects, many also complete
they decided to go ahead and try to make money off it in spite of his problems.
I mean scrapping a completed movie, and recasting a character for future movies at no cost to you, is not remotely the same.
TCTTS said:
I'd say it's definitely one thing to harm yourself with drugs and alcohol, but obviously something completely different (and much worse) to harm someone else with physical abuse.
That said, while the vast majority of Downey Jr.'s issues were of the latter sort, he did apparently punch a girlfriend and an officer in '97, while under the influence. However, he "paid the price" so to speak, and was basically excommunicated from Hollywood for years. Then, once he cleaned up his act, he was given a second a chance and the rest is history.
I'm all for Majors being given a second chance as well, but I feel like he'd need to be on the receiving end of *some kind* of consequences first, make a heartfelt public apology, and then go from there. Right now, though, it looks like he's doing the opposite and doubling down.
Actually, sorry, scratch that. Downey did NOT punch his girlfriend and an officer in '97. That was Christian Slater. I was doing some quick research and missed the part where they switched from talking about Downey to Slater.
I'm just curious, do you have a source on punching his gf? I was surprised to hear that and can't seem to find anything on it.
Edit: Nevermind, missed the last post.
Edit: Nevermind, missed the last post.
A few million dollars difference, but sure.
Majors hasn't even been indicted yet and people want him gone. RDJ spent more than a year in actual prison. I'm not saying it's apples to apples, but if Marvel cans him and he doesn't get convicted, you know it's going to come up.
I mean he's probably going to walk because its so damn hard to prosecute without evidence and a cooperating witness but any doubts I had went out the window with those texts they released. That's textbook battered woman speak in those texts. The power dynamic is so ****ed in these cases.
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That poster is fire.TCTTS said:
Trailer looks great. Feeling a Winter Soldier spy drama vibe.
The thing that could derail this is if they don't work in any A-list heroes as being impersonated. Maybe there is a narrative reason not to, but that was pretty much the main thrust of the comic storyline.
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