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Humans are the real threat ... There isn't safety in numbers, there is starvation and disease in numbers. In a post-apocalyptic world in which the primary source of nourishment is scavenging large groups do not provide enough safety to outweigh the additional mouths to feed. Also, poor sanitation/hygiene will eventually lead to sickness (we already saw this in the prison) which can run rampant among a tightly packed group of individuals living together. So count me in the group that thinks Rick's party is getting too large. Needs to be 10 or less and we need a place holder for Beth.

Rick
Coral
Daryl
Carol
Glenn
Maggie
Michonne
Beth (upon her successful return and only so she can take care of the baby and be some eye candy ... maybe a nice love triangle with Daryl and Carol)

Everyone else needs to be shown the door. They are pretty much useless.

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Kind of agree, kind of don't. Your cast is good, but I think an interesting character arc would be for Tyrese to nut up and quit being such a wimp.

Also, the show will go on FOREVER with diminishing opportunity for interesting plot twists if all they do is keep barely surviving amid zombies and psychos. The larger story arc needs to show them making real progress. EITHER create a non-psycho-led version of Woodbury (that was a pretty sweet setup, after all) or get Eugene to Washington and create a new struggle/conflict between humans and the "virus" itself.

I'm really not interested in following this group through 5 or 6 more seasons of taking up Residence A until it meets Catastrophe X, only to move on to Residence B until Catastrophe Y, then RC and CZ, etc, etc.

No Carl! It's his fault They are with the preacher and whatever is going on with him. How do you go from hating your dad for not killing bad guys that come back to kill you, to this naive kid that wants to save strangers in the woods? That's poor writing if you ask me.

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No Carl! It's his fault They are with the preacher and whatever is going on with him. How do you go from hating your dad for not killing bad guys that come back to kill you, to this naive kid that wants to save strangers in the woods?

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uh he is a child?

So to address a few things that have been mentioned.....I went back last night and watched a few scenes based on some comments here:

1) Yes, there is definitely an "F" like symbol in the tree when Bob gets caught. I totally missed that the first time watching.

2) Regarding which way Morgan goes.....when he stops on the tracks and takes off his mask, he looks in the direction that Rick and the group went (not in the exact direction, but to that side of the tracks). Then it cuts to him walking through the woods following those symbols. So to be fair, we really have no way of knowing which way he went.

3) Regarding Gareth knowing Bob, the whole "cosmic justice" speech and the idea that they knew each other before this..... While I suppose that's possible, I really think when Gareth says "it could have been anybody, but it just happened to be you" he's just referring to the fact that Bob and the group are the ones that blew up Terminus and made the Termites homeless and hunters. They were going to hunt anyway to eat, it just so happened that they got Bob....at least that's what I got out of it.

4) When Bob gets pulled underwater in the food bank, as he's walking to the spot that the walker grabs him, you can see bubbles coming up from the exact spot where the submerged walker is. Pretty cool in that I didn't notice that the first time........

5) I do think Gabriel locked himself in the church and let his congregation suffer outside. I think that's what the marks Coral found and the message scrawled into the side of the church are all about. I don't buy that he was somehow helping the Termites. I'm still not sure whether or not he's involved with the guys who kidnapped Beth though.

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Also, the more people you have in a group, the more risk you have of someone dying and becoming a walker in your midst. That probably limits group size to certain degree.

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The prison was an easy place to prevent that. They were sleeping in freaking cells. If they had just closed the doors at night(tied shut instead of locked for peace of mind) and had a basic curfew, they would have been fine. Even if the kid had still wandered out and died in the showers, everyone else's doors would be closed and he couldn't have bitten someone else.

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You can't just call the police when bad people show up.

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That doesn't even work in the real world chief.

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Everyone else needs to be shown the door. They are pretty much useless.

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Abraham and Tyreese?

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We already determine Tyrese didn't kill that gun = useless and I don't like Abraham...

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I predict he will be killed by Rick, in the study, with the red handled machete.

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****ing spoilers man! Delete post and ban user

I think Eugene, mexican chick, bob, sasha and I'm gonna say Carol all die this season. Probably Tara as well, after she tries to seduce Glenn. If the pizza boy is smart, why not both.

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Probably Tara as well, after she tries to seduce Glenn.

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The lesbian?

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4) When Bob gets pulled underwater in the food bank, as he's walking to the spot that the walker grabs him, you can see bubbles coming up from the exact spot where the submerged walker is. Pretty cool in that I didn't notice that the first time........

5) I do think Gabriel locked himself in the church and let his congregation suffer outside. I think that's what the marks Coral found and the message scrawled into the side of the church are all about. I don't buy that he was somehow helping the Termites. I'm still not sure whether or not he's involved with the guys who kidnapped Beth though.

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Saw those bubbles immediately and thought he was gonna die right there on the spot. Was actually surprised that he seemingly got away unscathed.

I agree with you about Gabriel. I think when **** went down, he locked the doors to the church and his congregation started to show up. He refuses to let them in, including the organ player chick. The dead eventually show up and start killing people and he does nothing to help. He just lets everyone die.

A couple of questions regarding Gabriel:

1. How did he stay so clean? That was my first thought seeing him on the rock. Dude was dripping in sweat walking back to his church but his suit, collar and shoes were immaculate. Please don't tell me he changes in to his Sunday best to go scavenging in Walker Town.

2. What was the writing in the notebooks that Carol found? Was he just copying the Bible?

We need to remember that there are new walkers everytime a person gets bitten or dies, so there will be new(ish) walkers until Eugene gets to DC to cure it all or all humans are gone from the earth. Not every walker from now on will be in a severe state of decomposition or skeletal.

Also, Bob was bitten and knows he's infected, and Daryl is gay. (not that there's anything wrong with that)

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Daryl is gay

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A couple of questions regarding Gabriel:

1. How did he stay so clean? That was my first thought seeing him on the rock. Dude was dripping in sweat walking back to his church but his suit, collar and shoes were immaculate. Please don't tell me he changes in to his Sunday best to go scavenging in Walker Town.

2. What was the writing in the notebooks that Carol found? Was he just copying the Bible?

We need to remember that there are new walkers everytime a person gets bitten or dies, so there will be new(ish) walkers until Eugene gets to DC to cure it all or all humans are gone from the earth. Not every walker from now on will be in a severe state of decomposition or skeletal.

Also, Bob was bitten and knows he's infected, and Daryl is gay. (not that there's anything wrong with that)

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Daryl is going to hook up with Tara?

Daryl bangs all the single chicks.

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1. How did he stay so clean? That was my first thought seeing him on the rock. Dude was dripping in sweat walking back to his church but his suit, collar and shoes were immaculate. Please don't tell me he changes in to his Sunday best to go scavenging in Walker Town.

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At first I thought he was really clean, but there was a closeup where his suit looks dirty and worn, particularly on the jacket collar. My supposition is that he has chosen to stay in his clerical garb out of devotion to God.

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Daryl is gay

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We do't know for sure that he is, but the producers have shopped that storyline to AMC as an option.

I agree w bigaggies assessment of worthy characters.

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If they're all already infected, how would cannibalism make it worse?

I also don't understand how a subsequent bite would turn someone unless they died first.

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The infection has no affect unless you're dead.

The bite makes you die. Once you die, you turn.

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Thats not how I understand it. The bite speeds infection. I thought they cut Hershel's leg off quickly so the infection would not spread.

gigem-99 is right. A bite will kill you (via the nastiness in an undead mouth "infecting" you) and then you turn due to the "infection" that is *apparently* in everyone.

Tyrese is going to get Upham-ed. Let an enemy live and they come back to kill you.

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1. How did he stay so clean? That was my first thought seeing him on the rock. Dude was dripping in sweat walking back to his church but his suit, collar and shoes were immaculate. Please don't tell me he changes in to his Sunday best to go scavenging in Walker Town.

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At first I thought he was really clean, but there was a closeup where his suit looks dirty and worn, particularly on the jacket collar. My supposition is that he has chosen to stay in his clerical garb out of devotion to God.

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My thought was that he was shown as "clean" to suggest that he had never gotten his hands dirty (killed zombies/people).

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My thought was that he was shown as "clean" to suggest that he had never gotten his hands dirty (killed zombies/people).

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well then blame Rick as the spoiler as he said he's do it.

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If they're all already infected, how would cannibalism make it worse?

I also don't understand how a subsequent bite would turn someone unless they died first.

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The infection has no affect unless you're dead.

The bite makes you die. Once you die, you turn.

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Thats not how I understand it. The bite speeds infection. I thought they cut Hershel's leg off quickly so the infection would not spread.

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Everyone has the virus so if you die (bite or no bite) you turn. The bites are severely infectious and will kill you themselves this activating the Walker virus.

Herschel was bit and leg was amputated before the Infection had spread enough to kill him.

The infection from the bite that kills you and the 'virus' that causes the re animation are completely separate.

its not a virus people its the end of times!!

I think Bob definitely got bit on the leg, and those guys amputating/grilling it actually saved his life, as it prevented it from spreading to the rest of his body.

So my question is... does the leg itself "turn"? Is it still infected?

I think the Terminus storyline would have been more compelling if it was a sanctuary. They took the easy way out on that one.

Yeah. Its post-apocalypse. He has kept her alive and no she follows him around like a puppy. She will make a move. I'd bet on it.

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well then blame Rick as the spoiler as he said he's do it.

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Well then by the collective thinking of the thread, Rick better be banned from the show. Completely unacceptable to ruin the plot like that.

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Yeah. Its post-apocalypse. He has kept her alive and no she follows him around like a puppy. She will make a move. I'd bet on it.

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I bet she makes a move on Maggie after the hug she gave her

It was a sanctuary and the storyline for it isn't over yet... don't forget flashbacks bro

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I think Bob definitely got bit on the leg, and those guys amputating/grilling it actually saved his life, as it prevented it from spreading to the rest of his body.

So my question is... does the leg itself "turn"? Is it still infected?

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You mean do his toes start wiggling while it's roasting over the pit? Maybe that's why Gareth kicks Bob in the previews for next week.

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Yeah. Its post-apocalypse. He has kept her alive and no she follows him around like a puppy. She will make a move. I'd bet on it.

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I bet she makes a move on Maggie after the hug she gave her

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If Daryl turns out to be gay, who does he make a move on? I say Tyreese.

Another question I have...why was Maggie so gung-ho on finding Glen and she's uttered not a peep about finding/going after Beth?