Agree perhaps at payback next month

Am I the only one who thinks this is the most bland WWE WrestleMania in a long time. So far I haven't even sniff a fight that really draws me to it and worse.. the Superstars are getting stale. I feel like we are in the early 90s again and it is almost time to recycle the card.

I feel bad for Drew. Never won or defended the belt with a big crowd to give him a pop.

Maybe that's what they are setting up here. Hopefully there will be some people at WM.

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Am I the only one who thinks this is the most bland WWE WrestleMania in a long time. So far I haven't even sniff a fight that really draws me to it and worse.. the Superstars are getting stale. I feel like we are in the early 90s again and it is almost time to recycle the card.

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there was a video about this not to long ago on Youtube. Essentially the argument was that since they don't want anyone to appear weak, nobody really looks strong either. They also whitewash what made them popular in nxt/indys. All in all outside of a Kofi/Daniel Bryan crowd push, nobody is really gonna do anything

I read there is expected to be 30,000 fans

I get my 2nd vaccine shot today and Tampa only 4 hours away so hopefully I can be one of the 30,000

That'd be awesome after the last year of empty seats ringside. I'd kill to be one of the 30,000.

The Rick versus Charlotte angle makes zero sense and provides zero entertainment value. Just like the first time HHH and the creative team trotted it out.

https://instagr.am/p/CLrlkqqsk6K


Actually very surprised at this.

YESSSSSSS!!!

I guess that Big Show v Shaq can finally happen.

I've been anxiously waiting for it...

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I guess that Big Show v Shaq can finally happen.

I've been anxiously waiting for it...

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They should have waited to announce, and had him attack Shaq in the match vs Cody

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https://instagr.am/p/CLrlkqqsk6K


Actually very surprised at this.

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The Giant is back on TNT!

Inner wrestling voice

UGH why is WWE trotting out the Big Show.



OMG AEW has signed PAUL WHITE LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Is AEW paying these guys anywhere close to WWE?? (Big Show, Jericho)

My guess is no, but i bet they give them almost 100% royalties and merch monies

and "creative freedom"

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My guess is no, but i bet they give them almost 100% royalties and merch monies

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And probably don't try to take any royalties/revenue they make off of Twitch or other social media

If you haven't watch the Monday Night War series in WWE .. recommend it.

- Got a large investor (Ted Turner vs the Khans) who was willing to compete and open the pocket book.
- Started by taking WWE older establish and experience talent by offering them less travel, guarantee money and more money then WWE. ..
- Built their mid card from Japan and Mexico.. especially their cruiser weight division..
- WCW: Hulk Hogan, Macho Man, Kevin Nash, Scott Hall, Lex Luger.. ect..
- AEW: Jon Moxley, Chris Jericho, Big Show,
- Not a single voice for creative.. creative by committee (one of the main reason WCW fail.. hopefully AEW has a strong central voice)
- Top talent not willing to do buisness with lower tier (not an issue yet for AEW but future pitfall if creative writing doesn't get good leadership)
- Weak women division (Both AEW and WCW had weak women division but at least AEW is working to improve it. Love the tournament)

Rumor is that AEW is looking at adding a second tv show. If they pit it on Mondays against RAW, then you got my attention.

Man i would love to see Brian Pillman Jr take off

Voted on by subscribers to WON. Some of these are...interesting.
(sorry the list is massively long)

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Category A Awards
Lou Thesz/Ric Flair Award (Wrestler of the Year)
1. Jon Moxley
2. Kenny Omega
3. Tetsuya Naito
4. Kota Ibushi
5. Drew McIntyre
6. Bayley
7. Go Shiozaki
8. Roman Reigns
9. Mayu Iwatani
10. Chris Jericho
Most Outstanding Wrestler
1. Kenny Omega
2. Kota Ibushi
3. Shingo Takagi
4. Tomohiro Ishii
5. Will Ospreay
6. Minoru Suzuki
7. Kazuchika Okada
8. Hiromu Takahashi
9. Go Shiozaki
10. Rey Fnix
Tag Team of the Year
1. Young Bucks
2. Kenny Omega & Adam Page
3. FTR
4. Dangerous Tekkers
5. Bayley & Sasha Banks
6. The North
7. Best Friends
8. Lucha Brothers
9. Hiroshi Tanahashi & Kota Ibushi
10. (Tied) Santana & Ortiz, Bobby Fish & Kyle O'Reilly
Best on Interviews
1. Eddie Kingston
2. Jon Moxley
3. MJF
4. Cody Rhodes
5. Chris Jericho
6. Taz
7. Roman Reigns
8. Jay White
9. Pat McAfee
10. Randy Orton
Promotion of the Year
1. AEW
2. NJPW
3. WWE
4. Stardom
5. UFC
6. Pro Wrestling Noah
7. Impact Wrestling
8. Dragon Gate
9. ROH
10. DDT
Best Weekly TV Show
1. AEW Dynamite
2. WWE NXT
3. Being the Elite
4. AEW Dark
5. WWE SmackDown
6. NJPW Strong
7. ROH
8. Impact Wrestling
9. MLW Fusion
10. WWE NXT UK
Match of the Year
1. Kenny Omega & Adam Page vs. Young Bucks (AEW Revolution)
2. Kazuchika Okada vs. Kota Ibushi (NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 14, Night 1)
3. FTR vs. Young Bucks (AEW Full Gear)
4. Kazuchika Okada vs. Tetsuya Naito (NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 14, Night 2)
5. Ilja Dragunov vs. WALTER (NXT UK, October 2020)
6. Kota Ibushi vs. Minoru Suzuki (NJPW G1 Climax, Night 13)
7. Hiromu Takahashi vs. Will Ospreay (NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 14, Night 1)
8. Go Shiozaki vs. Takashi Sugiura (Noah Final Chronicle)
9. Stadium Stampede (AEW Double or Nothing)
10. Adam Page, Alex Reynolds & John Silver vs. MJF, Ortiz & Santana (AEW Dynamite - Brodie Lee Tribute Show)
Category B Awards
US/Canada MVP
1. Jon Moxley
2. Kenny Omega
3. Cody Rhodes
4. Drew McIntyre
5. Roman Reigns
6. Chris Jericho
7. Bayley
8. Adam Cole
9. Adam Page
Japan MVP
1. Tetsuya Naito
2. Kota Ibushi
3. Go Shiozaki
4. Kazuchika Okada
5. Mayu Iwatani
6. Minoru Suzuki
7. Hiromu Takahashi
8. Will Ospreay
9. Tomohiro Ishii
10. Shingo Takagi
Mexico MVP
1. Rey Fnix
2. Laredo Kid
3. Pagano
4. LA Park
5. Volador, Jr.
6. Psycho Clown
7. Kenny Omega
8. Rush
9. Pentagn, Jr.
10. Ultimo Guerrero
Europe MVP
1. WALTER
2. Will Ospreay
3. Zack Sabre, Jr.
4. Cara Noir
5. Ilja Dragunov
Non-Heavyweight MVP
1. Hiromu Takahashi
2. Rey Fnix
3. Darby Allin
4. Rey Mysterio
5. El Phantasmo
Women's MVP
1. Bayley
2. Mayu Iwatani
3. Sasha Banks
4. Asuka
5. Hikaru Shida
6. Io Shirai
7. Giulia
8. Thunder Rosa
9. Yuka Sakazaki
10. (Tied) Britt Baker, Hana Kimura, Serena Deeb
Best Box Office Draw
1. Conor McGregor
2. Jon Moxley
3. Chris Jericho
4. Tetsuya Naito
5. Roman Reigns
6. Kenny Omega
7. Young Bucks
8. Khabib Nurmagomedov
9. Jorge Masvidal
10. Cody Rhodes
Feud of the Year
1. Jon Moxley vs. Eddie Kingston (AEW)
2. Cody Rhodes vs. Brodie Lee (AEW)
3. Adam Page vs. Kenny Omega (AEW)
4. Jon Moxley vs. Chris Jericho (AEW)
5. FTR vs. Young Bucks (AEW)
6. MJF vs. Cody Rhodes (AEW)
7. Adam Page & Kenny Omega vs. Young Bucks (AEW)
8. Jey Uso vs. Roman Reigns (WWE)
9. The Elite vs. The Inner Circle (AEW)
10. Edge vs. Randy Orton (WWE)
Most Improved
1. Britt Baker
2. Giulia
3. John Silver
4. Taichi
5. Jungle Boy
6. Brodie Lee
7. Roman Reigns
8. Tay Conti
9. YOSHI-HASHI
10. Adam Page
Most Charismatic
1. MJF
2. Orange Cassidy
3. Jon Moxley
4. Hiroshi Tanahashi
5. Eddie Kingston
6. Chris Jericho
7. Cody Rhodes
8. Tetsuya Naito
9. Kenny Omega
10. Ricky Starks
Bryan Danielson Award (Best Technical Wrestler)
1. Zack Sabre, Jr.
2. Daniel Bryan
3. Jonathan Gresham
4. Kyle O'Reilly
5. Timothy Thatcher
6. Will Ospreay
7. Kenny Omega
8. Minoru Suzuki
9. Syuri
10. Kota Ibushi
Bruiser Brody Memorial Award (Best Brawler)
1. Jon Moxley
2. Tomohiro Ishii
3. Brodie Lee
4. Minoru Suzuki
5. Shingo Takagi
6. Eddie Kingston
7. WALTER
8. Matthew Justice
Best Flying Wrestler
1. Rey Fnix
2. Will Ospreay
3. Hiromu Takahashi
4. Nick Jackson
5. Darby Allin
6. Dragon Dia
7. Rey Mysterio
8. Matt Jackson
9. (Tied) El Hijo Del Vikingo, Bandido
Most Overrated (= most over-pushed)
1. Bray Wyatt
2. EVIL
3. King Corbin
4. Nia Jax
5. Braun Strowman
6. Goldberg
7. Cody Rhodes
8. (Tied) Seth Rollins, The Miz
9. Charlotte Flair
Most Underrated (= most under-pushed)
1. Ricochet
2. Chad Gable
3. Riddle
4. (Tied) Cesaro, Mustafa Ali
5. Keith Lee
6. Tomohiro Ishii
7. Rey Fnix
8. Toa Henare
9. Aleister Black
Rookie of the Year
1. Pat McAfee
2. Anna Jay
3. SB KENTo
4. Dominik Mysterio
5. Top Flight
6. Will Hobbs
7. Benjamin Carter
8. Blake Christian
9. Alan Angels
10. Yuki Mashiro
Best Non-Wrestler
1. Taz
2. Paul Heyman
3. Don Callis
4. Tony Schiavone
5. Jake Roberts
6. Adam Pearce
7. Zelina Vega
Best Television Announcer
1. Excalibur
2. Kevin Kelly
3. Tony Schiavone
4. Jim Ross
5. Mark Pickering
6. Hugo Savinovich
7. Wade Barrett
8. Chris Jericho
9. Ian Riccobani
10. (Tied) Jae Church, Samoa Joe
Worst Television Announcer
1. Michael Cole
2. Corey Graves
3. Beth Phoenix
4. Jim Ross
5. Josh Mathews
6. Byron Saxton
7. Tom Phillips
8. Madison Rayne
9. Vic Joseph
Best Major Wrestling Show
1. AEW Revolution
2. NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 14, Night 1
3. NJPW G1 Climax, Night 13
4. AEW Dynamite (Brodie Lee Tribute Show)
5. AEW Double or Nothing
6. AEW Full Gear
7. NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 14, Night 2
8. WWE Royal Rumble
9. NXT TakeOver: Portland
Worst Major Wrestling Show
1. WWE Super ShowDown
2. WWE The Horror Show at Extreme Rules
3. WWE WrestleMania 36, Part 2
4. WWE Money in the Bank
5. AEW All Out
6. WWE Survivor Series
7. WWE WrestleMania 36, Part 1
8. WWE TLC
Best Wrestling Manoeuvre
1. One Winged Angel (Kenny Omega)
2. Buckshot Lariat (Adam Page)
3. Buckshot V-Trigger (Adam Page & Kenny Omega)
4. Kamigoye (Kota Ibushi)
5. (Tied) Paradigm Shift (Jon Moxley), Hidden Blade (Will Ospreay)
6. Stormbreaker (Will Ospreay)
7. Coffin Drop (Darby Allin)
8. Pumping Bomber (Shingo Takagi)
9. Whirling Candy (Mizuki)
10. Black Arrow (Pac)
Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic
1. WWE firing everyone during a pandemic
2. WWE operating without COVID testing
3. WWE banning talent from third party opportunities
4. WWE running in Saudi Arabia
5. AEW continuing Matt Hardy vs. Sammy Guevara
6. Rey Mysterio losing his eye angle
7. Dana White attempting to run a show on a Native American reservation
8. (Tied) WWE continuing to employ wrestlers with sexual misconduct allegations, Bushiroad handling the death of Hana Kimura
9. WWE turning Drake Maverick firing into storyline
Worst Television Show
1. WWE Raw
2. Impact Wrestling
3. WWE SmackDown
4. ROH
5. (Tied) WWE NXT, WWE 205 Live
Worst Match of the Year
1. Braun Strowman vs. The Fiend (WWE The Horror Show at Extreme Rules)
2. Goldberg vs. The Fiend (WWE Super ShowDown)
3. Matt Hardy vs. Sammy Guevara (AEW All Out)
4. Edge vs. Randy Orton (WWE WrestleMania 36, Part 2)
5. Bray Wyatt vs. John Cena (WWE WrestleMania 36, Part 2)
6. Brock Lesnar vs. Ricochet (WWE Super ShowDown)
7. Jado vs. Toru Yano (NJPW New Japan Cup, Night 1)
8. Britt Baker vs. Big Swole (AEW All Out
9. Randy Orton vs. The Fiend (WWE TLC)
10. Braun Strowman vs. The Fiend (WWE SummerSlam)
Worst Feud of the Year
1. Braun Strowman vs. Bray Wyatt (WWE)
2. Bray Wyatt vs. Randy Orton (WWE)
3. Lana vs. Nia Jax (WWE)
4. Rey Mysterio vs. Seth Rollins (WWE)
5. EVIL vs. Tetsuya Naito (NJPW)
6. Retribution vs. WWE (WWE)
7. Matt Hardy vs. Sammy Guevara (AEW)
8. Street Profits vs. Viking Raiders (WWE)
9. (Tied) Jeff Hardy vs. Sheamus (WWE), Chris Jericho vs. Orange Cassidy (AEW)
Worst Promotion of the Year
1. WWE
2. Impact Wrestling
3. ROH
4. MLW
5. NJPW
Best Booker
1. Tony Khan
2. Gedo
3. Nosawa Rongai
4. Rossy Ogawa
5. Sanshiro Takagi
6. Paul Levesque
7. Hunter Johnson
Promoter of the Year
1. Tony Khan
2. Dana White
3. Sanshiro Takagi
4. Harold Meij
5. (Tied) Joe Koff, Brett Lauderdale
6. Vince McMahon
Best Gimmick
1. Orange Cassidy
2. Brodie Lee
3. Roman Reigns
4. Adam Page
5. Darby Allin
6. Kenny Omega
7. MJF
8. The Fiend
9. Eddie Kingston
10. Dark Order
Worst Gimmick
1. The Fiend
2. Retribution
3. Alexa Bliss
4. Seth Rollins
5. Master Wato
6. Dexter Lumis
7. King Corbin
8. Lana
9. Great-O-Khan
10. Miro
Best Pro-Wrestling Book
1. Killing the Business (Young Bucks)
2. Eighth Wonder of the World (Pat Laprade & Bertrand Hebert)
3. Under the Black Hat (Jim Ross)
4. Shamrock: World's Most Dangerous Man (Jonathan Snowden)
5. Wrestling Observer Yearbook: 1997 (Dave Meltzer)
6. NJPW Year in Review 2020 (Voices of Wrestling)
7. Master of the Ring (Tim Hornbaker)
Best Pro-Wrestling Documentary
1. Dark Side of the Ring: Owen Hart
2. Dark Side of the Ring: Chris Benoit
3. WWE The Last Ride
4. Dark Side of the Ring: Herb Abrams
5. You Cannot Kill David Arquette
6. WWE 24: Edge
7. (Tied) Dark side of the Ring: Brawl for All, AEW Road to Full Gear
8. Dark Side of the Ring: New Jack

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So basically wwe sucks at everything but documentaries...and Bayley

And not sure when this was done, but the Tay Conti vs Nyla Rose match in the AEW tourney may have been the best women's match of the year. It wasn't a five star effort, but allowed both to show they can work well. Though I may be jaded by the crap fest that was the other three matches that day. I know Anna Jay had to pull out so they squashed some new person, but the other two matches from Japan were just blah

So Jon Moxley retained his IWGP US title tonight which was surprising. But I guess that means more AEW NJPW crossovers

I was a huge Lashley fan back in the day -- so tonight was awesome.

I like John Silver being featured in the main event in Dynamite

Anyone else notice how bad ROH has been lately?

It was as never that great, but it was still fun and entertaining, now it's just bad.

So predictions on who the big AEW signing is?

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So predictions on who the big AEW signing is?

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Triple H

Brandon Walker did the NXT preshow last month and is now on dynamite. Gotta admit I'm kinda jealous of him. He is living the dream.

Lars Sullivan