I have to admit that I was (and maybe still am) very skeptical of this whole production, but reading the quotes/notes from and about the show maker are giving me some optimism.

I am also glad this is 100 years prior to Ep. 1. I, personally, didn't want any chance of a young Palpatine somehow showing up.

As far as "what is this show about?" I think based on a line from the trailer, and a quote provided above, it's about exploring what if the Jedi were seen as oppressive to other groups in the galaxy.

I do still wonder that if an actual Sith shows up, how does it not kill every single Jedi it encounters and maintain the "been extinct for a millennia" comment from Episode 1. Yoda, imo, did always have a somewhat strange reaction to that little bit of dialogue when one of the other Jedi says "Don't think they could return without us knowing."

I hope it is other dark-side users who aren't sith. Keep a little continuity and give us some variation.

Is this our boy Klo Ploon? How long does his species live?

redline248 said:

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I have to admit that I was (and maybe still am) very skeptical of this whole production, but reading the quotes/notes from and about the show maker are giving me some optimism.

I am also glad this is 100 years prior to Ep. 1. I, personally, didn't want any chance of a young Palpatine somehow showing up.

As far as "what is this show about?" I think based on a line from the trailer, and a quote provided above, it's about exploring what if the Jedi were seen as oppressive to other groups in the galaxy.

I do still wonder that if an actual Sith shows up, how does it not kill every single Jedi it encounters and maintain the "been extinct for a millennia" comment from Episode 1. Yoda, imo, did always have a somewhat strange reaction to that little bit of dialogue when one of the other Jedi says "Don't think they could return without us knowing."

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I love this basic idea, but it's one the entire trailer should have been built around.

Open with, say, the black witch character, played Jodie Turner-Smith, speaking of an oppressive force (no pun intended) in the galaxy, mixing in her already existing lines in the trailer. Basically, spend the first 30 seconds or so building up/teasing this menacing group whom we're sure are the new villains of the series, have another character ask something along the lines of "Who could ever wield such power?" then CUT TO: light sabers being ignited by a group of Jedi, answering that very question.

There's your "Oh sh*t" moment, and I'm all the way in.

From there, preface the already existing tagline with a title card or two that says something like...

"BEFORE THE CLONE WARS"

... series of shots...

"BEFORE THE PHANTOM MENACE"

... series of shots...

"IN AN AGE OF LIGHT"

... series of shots...

"A DARKNESS RISES"

... etc, etc.

Something along those lines.

Otherwise, there's no hook in this trailer. There's no conceptual framing, no historical framing, and no contrasting it to everything we've already seen before.

I understand your gripe with the trailer. For argument's sake, like you said it's a teaser, and probably more than anything something they put out for us superfans. They are aware most of that trailer already leaked, so they are just kind of throwing us a bone to see the official release in high quality video. Maybe they are saving more "meat" for the next trailer?

I hear you, but I'm not even really talking about "meat." Just more of a conceptual approach, which teaser trailers are usually perfect for, then you really lay the groundwork for the story itself in the full trailer.

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Is this our boy Klo Ploon? How long does his species live?

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Wookiepedia says the kel Dor live 70 + years so kinda iffy on Master Plo, but he is Filoni's favorite so who knows?

This is exactly what the trailer was missing.

Had a long day and just checked out the teaser. It didn't pull my interest strings at all. Ugh.

Plaguies is about 15 when The Acolyte takes place.

redline248 said:

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I have to admit that I was (and maybe still am) very skeptical of this whole production, but reading the quotes/notes from and about the show maker are giving me some optimism.

I am also glad this is 100 years prior to Ep. 1. I, personally, didn't want any chance of a young Palpatine somehow showing up.

As far as "what is this show about?" I think based on a line from the trailer, and a quote provided above, it's about exploring what if the Jedi were seen as oppressive to other groups in the galaxy.

I do still wonder that if an actual Sith shows up, how does it not kill every single Jedi it encounters and maintain the "been extinct for a millennia" comment from Episode 1. Yoda, imo, did always have a somewhat strange reaction to that little bit of dialogue when one of the other Jedi says "Don't think they could return without us knowing."

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I've seen a few people online referencing that comment about sith being extinct and how it'd break canon if sith are in this. But isn't the whole point of the prequels that the Jedi were dead wrong about that? The sith weren't extinct - somehow Palpatine [emerged]. I think it could still make sense to have sith here and it not break that unreliable narrator comment.

Having said that, I'd love to see it be non-sith

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MASAXET said:

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redline248 said:

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I have to admit that I was (and maybe still am) very skeptical of this whole production, but reading the quotes/notes from and about the show maker are giving me some optimism.

I am also glad this is 100 years prior to Ep. 1. I, personally, didn't want any chance of a young Palpatine somehow showing up.

As far as "what is this show about?" I think based on a line from the trailer, and a quote provided above, it's about exploring what if the Jedi were seen as oppressive to other groups in the galaxy.

I do still wonder that if an actual Sith shows up, how does it not kill every single Jedi it encounters and maintain the "been extinct for a millennia" comment from Episode 1. Yoda, imo, did always have a somewhat strange reaction to that little bit of dialogue when one of the other Jedi says "Don't think they could return without us knowing."

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I've seen a few people online referencing that comment about sith being extinct and how it'd break canon if sith are in this. But isn't the whole point of the prequels that the Jedi were dead wrong about that? The sith weren't extinct - somehow Palpatine [emerged]. I think it could still make sense to have sith here and it not break that unreliable narrator comment.

Having said that, I'd love to see it be non-sith

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No, the discussion isn't whether the Jedi were wrong about it, they 100% were wrong. The Sith literally stayed hidden from the Jedi for 1000 years.

What I'm saying is that if the group of Jedi in this show encounter a Sith, and even 1 of those Jedi survives, then how could the later Jedi think the Sith were gone?

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this was brought up on Screen Crush's breakdown of the trailer…..and pretty much said that to make that scene not break canon every one of those Jedi that's going after the dude with the red saber needs to die

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redline248 said:

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MASAXET said:

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redline248 said:

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I have to admit that I was (and maybe still am) very skeptical of this whole production, but reading the quotes/notes from and about the show maker are giving me some optimism.

I am also glad this is 100 years prior to Ep. 1. I, personally, didn't want any chance of a young Palpatine somehow showing up.

As far as "what is this show about?" I think based on a line from the trailer, and a quote provided above, it's about exploring what if the Jedi were seen as oppressive to other groups in the galaxy.

I do still wonder that if an actual Sith shows up, how does it not kill every single Jedi it encounters and maintain the "been extinct for a millennia" comment from Episode 1. Yoda, imo, did always have a somewhat strange reaction to that little bit of dialogue when one of the other Jedi says "Don't think they could return without us knowing."

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I've seen a few people online referencing that comment about sith being extinct and how it'd break canon if sith are in this. But isn't the whole point of the prequels that the Jedi were dead wrong about that? The sith weren't extinct - somehow Palpatine [emerged]. I think it could still make sense to have sith here and it not break that unreliable narrator comment.

Having said that, I'd love to see it be non-sith

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No, the discussion isn't whether the Jedi were wrong about it, they 100% were wrong. The Sith literally stayed hidden from the Jedi for 1000 years.

What I'm saying is that if the group of Jedi in this show encounter a Sith, and even 1 of those Jedi survives, then how could the later Jedi think the Sith were gone?

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this was brought up on Screen Crush's breakdown of the trailer…..and pretty much said that to make that scene not break canon every one of those Jedi that's going after the dude with the red saber needs to die

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The more I think about it...there could be another way. Like, 1 of those young Jedi survive, and get back to the temple to tell the story. It's a fairly unproven Jedi and so the rest of them are like, "uh...yeah we aren't so sure about that." 100 years later when Qui-Gon recounts his experience, all the Jedi (except Yoda) on the council haven't heard the story about whatever happens. Yoda had heard about it, but never really figured it was true...

Literally all he says is "Ah, hard to see the dark side is." Neither confirming or denying.

Yoda is definitely clapping Yaddle's cheeks throughout the time of this show.

I find this very hard to believe...

The trailer for THE ACOLYTE garnered 51.3 million views in its first 24 hours. This is a record for any Lucasfilm Disney+ series, surpassing every trailer for The Mandalorian, The Book of Boba Fett, Andor, Obi-Wan Kenobi, and Ahsoka. pic.twitter.com/UpgXQDVKwH

— Star Wars Holocron (@sw_holocron) March 21, 2024

It doesn't have to be the Sith, it could just be a Jedi who gave in to the dark side of the force.

Very well could be. Someone who out nerds me in Star Wars lore will have to chime in on the red blade, though.

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Very well could be. Someone who out nerds me in Star Wars lore will have to chime in on the red blade, though.

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I can help with that.

Turning to the dark side corrupts the kyber crystal, turning it red.

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redline248 said:

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Very well could be. Someone who out nerds me in Star Wars lore will have to chime in on the red blade, though.

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I can help with that.

Turning to the dark side corrupts the kyber crystal, turning it red.

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lol, I don't think it's that simple.

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redline248 said:

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Very well could be. Someone who out nerds me in Star Wars lore will have to chime in on the red blade, though.

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I can help with that.

Turning to the dark side corrupts the kyber crystal, turning it red.

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there was sort of a thing about this already in the best episode of Star Wars Visions in season 1 and dang if it wasn't awesome!!!!

redline248 said:

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Very well could be. Someone who out nerds me in Star Wars lore will have to chime in on the red blade, though.

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I'm busy right now. Maybe tomorrow.