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I liked it but won't be excited until I see every episode. There have been too many duds.
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Odds we see the origins of Grogu?
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On one hand, this is only a teaser trailer and I'm glad they didn't spoil the plot.

That said, I still have no real sense of what this show is, and I'd be even more confused if I were a casual fan. Or, rather, what we do know seems like underwhelming territory we've tread before...

- A mysterious darkness rising against the well-established Jedi (the prequels)

- A young, pissed off Sith woman out there wrecking shop (Shin in Ahsoka)

... except without any familiar faces. Which, big picture, is good, but something else unique has to be in place of there being no familiar faces, yet there's just... nothing in that regard. There's also no sense of time in relation to the other movies/shows, no real context, etc.

To be clear, I think the show itself still has a lot of promise, and I'm still looking forward to it. I'm talking more about the marketing choices here, and how half-assed the trailer/framing feels. It just has a very ho-hum-here's-some-more-generic Star Wars vibe...
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Dekker_Lentz said:

Odds we see the origins of Grogu?
Grogu is only like 50. This is set several 100 years BBY
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Dekker_Lentz said:

Odds we see the origins of Grogu?


It should be zero. I bet we see yoda and possibly yaddle
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wangus12 said:

Dekker_Lentz said:

Odds we see the origins of Grogu?
Grogu is only like 50. This is set several 100 years BBY


I thought it was 50 years before Episode 1. Looks like only 100 years before Episode 1?

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/star-wars-the-acolyte-trailer-timeline-1235855636/amp/


So I wonder if we see Darth Tenebrous?

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To be honest the trailer didn't do much for me either. Felt kind of generic just based on what we got.

Plus, I really haven't been a big fan of most of the cinematography on the SW shows, for some reason, and that just continues here. Why is it that Obi-Wan, Boba Fett, Ahsoka, and now this, have this cheap, digital look to them?

I can't quite explain it, but it just doesn't look cinematic to me in the way many prestige shows do.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

To be honest the trailer didn't do much for me either. Felt kind of generic just based on what we got.

Plus, I really haven't been a big fan of most of the cinematography on the SW shows, for some reason, and that just continues here. Why is it that Obi-Wan, Boba Fett, Ahsoka, and now this, have this cheap, digital look to them?

I can't quite explain it, but it just doesn't look cinematic to me in the way many prestige shows do.
maybe too much use of The Volume? If I recall correctly, Andor used real locations and felt more cinematic.
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Agreed.

It's the dull, flat, gray-ish colors, with no depth, no lens flares, everything feels like a set, etc. There's just something so inherently bland about nearly every shot, even when the shots are full of aliens and lightsabers.

Andor is somehow still the only one of these that actually looks cinematic.
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Flashdiaz said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:

To be honest the trailer didn't do much for me either. Felt kind of generic just based on what we got.

Plus, I really haven't been a big fan of most of the cinematography on the SW shows, for some reason, and that just continues here. Why is it that Obi-Wan, Boba Fett, Ahsoka, and now this, have this cheap, digital look to them?

I can't quite explain it, but it just doesn't look cinematic to me in the way many prestige shows do.
maybe too much use of The Volume? If I recall correctly, Andor used real locations and felt more cinematic.

I'm sure the volume is part of it, but it's mainly the color grading and the composition. It's that slightly desaturated look that kind of grays out everything, combined with no dramatic lighting or interesting shading whatsoever.
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Will wait for every episode to air, and then get a feel for the thoughts on it before giving Disney my money to reactivate.

Star Wars is just getting so bland. They really need someone to take the helm of a brand new story and vision. I won't lie, every time I see a bunch of lightsabers, I get a little excited. Disney has just burned me too much, at this point.
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Plus, I really haven't been a big fan of most of the cinematography on the SW shows, for some reason, and that just continues here. Why is it that Obi-Wan, Boba Fett, Ahsoka, and now this, have this cheap, digital look to them?

I can't quite explain it, but it just doesn't look cinematic to me in the way many prestige shows do.

This times a thousand.

It's too digital and the practical effects don't work like that. Hair, makeup, costumes, come off looking like cheap crap.
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Flashdiaz said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:

To be honest the trailer didn't do much for me either. Felt kind of generic just based on what we got.

Plus, I really haven't been a big fan of most of the cinematography on the SW shows, for some reason, and that just continues here. Why is it that Obi-Wan, Boba Fett, Ahsoka, and now this, have this cheap, digital look to them?

I can't quite explain it, but it just doesn't look cinematic to me in the way many prestige shows do.
maybe too much use of The Volume? If I recall correctly, Andor used real locations and felt more cinematic.
Exactly. Andor is the odd man out, some of those episodes looked fantastic. Especially the ones shot on location.
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Ha, I assumed some here would know who she's talking about, because I have no clue.
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Brian Earl Spilner said:

Flashdiaz said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:

To be honest the trailer didn't do much for me either. Felt kind of generic just based on what we got.

Plus, I really haven't been a big fan of most of the cinematography on the SW shows, for some reason, and that just continues here. Why is it that Obi-Wan, Boba Fett, Ahsoka, and now this, have this cheap, digital look to them?

I can't quite explain it, but it just doesn't look cinematic to me in the way many prestige shows do.
maybe too much use of The Volume? If I recall correctly, Andor used real locations and felt more cinematic.
Exactly. Andor is the odd man out, some of those episodes looked fantastic. Especially the ones shot on location.
I feel like the color palette for Andor makes it feel more real as well.
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Gotcha, thanks.
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Who cares about Yoda. Are we going to see the annoying kid Jedi from Young Jedi Academy in live action?
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wangus12 said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:

Flashdiaz said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:

To be honest the trailer didn't do much for me either. Felt kind of generic just based on what we got.

Plus, I really haven't been a big fan of most of the cinematography on the SW shows, for some reason, and that just continues here. Why is it that Obi-Wan, Boba Fett, Ahsoka, and now this, have this cheap, digital look to them?

I can't quite explain it, but it just doesn't look cinematic to me in the way many prestige shows do.
maybe too much use of The Volume? If I recall correctly, Andor used real locations and felt more cinematic.
Exactly. Andor is the odd man out, some of those episodes looked fantastic. Especially the ones shot on location.
I feel like the color palette for Andor makes it feel more real as well.
Agreed. Like TC said, that gray, washed-out look of the other shows is super bland.
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TCTTS said:

Ha, I assumed some here would know who she's talking about, because I have no clue.
She's from a book. Thus, beyond your scope of comprehension.

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Dekker_Lentz said:

wangus12 said:

Dekker_Lentz said:

Odds we see the origins of Grogu?
Grogu is only like 50. This is set several 100 years BBY


I thought it was 50 years before Episode 1. Looks like only 100 years before Episode 1?

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/star-wars-the-acolyte-trailer-timeline-1235855636/amp/


So I wonder if we see Darth Tenebrous?


Only me and 3 other people know who you are talking about. But that is a bad -ass reference, Dekk.
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I miss when tv shows actually were actually shows. 8 episodes of 30 minutes is a 3 hour movie. Just make the movie at that rate.

At the very least, bring back 10 1-hour long episode seasons.
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Yea, I hate when tv shows remove all the filler episodes and tell quality stories in a shorter amount of time.
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TCTTS said:

Flashdiaz said:

Brian Earl Spilner said:

To be honest the trailer didn't do much for me either. Felt kind of generic just based on what we got.

Plus, I really haven't been a big fan of most of the cinematography on the SW shows, for some reason, and that just continues here. Why is it that Obi-Wan, Boba Fett, Ahsoka, and now this, have this cheap, digital look to them?

I can't quite explain it, but it just doesn't look cinematic to me in the way many prestige shows do.
maybe too much use of The Volume? If I recall correctly, Andor used real locations and felt more cinematic.

I'm sure the volume is part of it, but it's mainly the color grading and the composition. It's that slightly desaturated look that kind of grays out everything, combined with no dramatic lighting or interesting shading whatsoever.
I feel like I'm on the flipside of this, at least in terms of what a trailer should be.
I think they did a good job of not showing too much, while still hinting at potential story plots.
And a lot of what I saw on screen looked more authentic to me.
But I also dont know anything about this story, and am just going solely on a trailer.

I do agree that only Andor has really looked great to me, visually and I think TC is on to something with lighting.
Corridor Crew has a bunch of good videos evaluating CGI and visual effects, and lighting is way more important than you might think. Or rather, it can impact shots in ways you might not expect.

Cool quick combat scene with Carrie Ann Moss and a masked bad guy.
"someone is killing Jedi"
Jedi guy using the force to get answers
Another cool brief Jedi fight
Jedi uses force to open door (why would you ever use your hands when you can use the force)
Carrie Ann Moss uses the force to stop someone attacking
Some potential villain giving a lecture "this is about power"
Teaser for a Sith with red light saber flying aroudn with the force chopping trees up
a bunch of Jedi lighting their sabers to fight in respons at the same time
then what seems to be a force explosion.

That seems like a good teaser for a season
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The Porkchop Express said:



on her love for the EU, which is super exciting to read

"There were certain things that I really wanted to do. You'll see a half Theelin, half human Jedi, Jecki, played by Dafne Keen, which was always a dream of mine. There's also some EU lore that I decided to put in because I thought it was so cool and no one told me I couldn't. There are a couple of really big EU ideas that are utilized both early on in the series and later in the series."
Need MORE of this, imo.
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PatAg said:

The Porkchop Express said:



on her love for the EU, which is super exciting to read

"There were certain things that I really wanted to do. You'll see a half Theelin, half human Jedi, Jecki, played by Dafne Keen, which was always a dream of mine. There's also some EU lore that I decided to put in because I thought it was so cool and no one told me I couldn't. There are a couple of really big EU ideas that are utilized both early on in the series and later in the series."
Need MORE of this, imo.
Yeah, I mean it looks like the villain is some sort of night sister based on the Mother designation, althoughthey look way different than the NS we saw in Ahoska. But there is so much depth to the EU that I'm really excited to see what she's pulling
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