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Their mission isn't over yet.

The final season of Star Wars: @TheBadBatch is streaming February 21, with a three-episode premiere, only on @DisneyPlus. pic.twitter.com/iT2781SsJO

— Star Wars (@starwars) January 22, 2024

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It should be documented that February 21st is my 50th birthday. Thanks Star Wars!

Also Ventrress is killed by dooku in that book and buried by Obiwan and Quinlan Vos on dathomir, so I guess some sort of resurrection is on tap for her.

The Porkchop Express said:

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Also Ventrress is killed by dooku in that book and buried by Obiwan and Quinlan Vos on dathomir, so I guess some sort of resurrection is on tap for her.

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They already added a little teaser to her character bio on the official Star Wars site.

https://www.starwars.com/databank/asajj-ventress

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I believe this was posted earlier in this thread. In any event, history proved their opinion in 1980 to be a bad one. I wonder what they would say now?

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I can bet you anything he will tell you he is the biggest Star Wars fan in existence while simultaneously hating every movie since then.

Not even a big enough fan to hate the original!

I think there are some interesting things in this letter. One comparing Empire to Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

It also seems like some initial reviews of Empire were less than favorable.

https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20200430-star-wars-why-the-empire-strikes-back-is-overrated#

Part of me wonders how much Return of the Jedi helps informs our thoughts about Empire. Luke/Vadar gives resolved. Han/Leia gets resolved. Emperor gets resolved. Knowing that the story gets paid off I think helps Empire.

Personally, I first watched Empire and Jedi back to back for the first time, so I never had to live without knowing how the story was going to be paid off. I would be interest in people's thoughts who can remember the wait.

I agree this letter is completely overboard, but it's kinda interesting to see a snap shot in time and the comparison of Empire Strikes Back to Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Especially since Empire influence Wrath of Khan.

Dekker_Lentz said:

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I think there are some interesting things in this letter. One comparing Empire to Star Trek: The Motion Picture.

It also seems like some initial reviews of Empire were less than favorable.

https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20200430-star-wars-why-the-empire-strikes-back-is-overrated#

Part of me wonders how much Return of the Jedi helps informs our thoughts about Empire. Luke/Vadar gives resolved. Han/Leia gets resolved. Emperor gets resolved. Knowing that the story gets paid off I think helps Empire.

Personally, I first watched Empire and Jedi back to back for the first time, so I never had to live without knowing how the story was going to be paid off. I would be interest in people's thoughts who can remember the wait.

I agree this letter is completely overboard, but it's kinda interesting to see a snap shot in time and the comparison of Empire Strikes Back to Star Trek: The Motion Picture. Especially since Empire influence Wrath of Khan.

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That was probably the longest 3 years of my life at the time.

I don't know when I started to consider The Empire Strikes Back as the best movie I have ever seen (a stance I maintain to this day), but I know it was not at its theatrical release. I loved every moment of it when I first saw it in May 1980, but it didn't really land for me like Star Wars did. It was probably once I got the movie on video (Beta tape, roughly 1983 or 1984 but definitely after Return of the Jedi) that I really started to grasp the genius of this movie.

Yes, Return of the Jedi wrapped everything up very nicely, but it also gave The Empire Strikes Back a new life where TESB was no longer just a middle movie with a maddening ending, it was now a movie that moved the story forward in ways that I never would have envisioned in the years prior to its release. I developed almost a new-found appreciation for the movie after watching it, in of all places, on a 25" TV in my parents' living room with no sound system other than the tinny TV speakers. The score was basically on an endless loop (of sorts) on my record player, but now matching up portions of the score to actual scenes gave life to both.

Curiously, when I watched Return of the Jedi for the first time after seeing Revenge of the Sith, I had a similar appreciation for ROTJ that I had long-since lost or never had. But due to George Lucas re-inventing the teddy bear, I never had Return of the Jedi that high up my list of all-time favorites. Yeah, I loved the first act and the last act of the movie, but the middle, ugh.

Lmao, I now have a new shopping idea for my wife

YouBet said:

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Personally, I first watched Empire and Jedi back to back for the first time, so I never had to live without knowing how the story was going to be paid off. I would be interest in people's thoughts who can remember the wait.
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This was the norm for everyone who grew up before streaming became common. The wait sucked but it made the payoff all that sweeter. Just like many things in life.

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I was really confused by this comment at first. But I meant in the 1980s, my parents rented all three movies and we watched A New Hope on Friday and on Saturday we watched Empire/Jedi back to back. As a kid I would only watch Empire if I could then watch Jedi.

But what I was getting at was people who had to wait the original 3 years between Empire and Jedi's release.

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Personally, I first watched Empire and Jedi back to back for the first time, so I never had to live without knowing how the story was going to be paid off. I would be interest in people's thoughts who can remember the wait.
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This was the norm for everyone who grew up before streaming became common. The wait sucked but it made the payoff all that sweeter. Just like many things in life.

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I was really confused by this comment at first. But I meant in the 1980s, my parents rented all three movies and we watched A New Hope on Friday and on Saturday we watched Empire/Jedi back to back. As a kid I would only watch Empire if I could then watch Jedi.

But what I was getting at was people who had to wait the original 3 years between Empire and Jedi's release.

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I also meant in the 1980s when I was a kid. You had to wait for movies to release and then wait years for the sequel. VCR only came into play after the movies were out.

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Personally, I first watched Empire and Jedi back to back for the first time, so I never had to live without knowing how the story was going to be paid off. I would be interest in people's thoughts who can remember the wait.
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This was the norm for everyone who grew up before streaming became common. The wait sucked but it made the payoff all that sweeter. Just like many things in life.

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I was really confused by this comment at first. But I meant in the 1980s, my parents rented all three movies and we watched A New Hope on Friday and on Saturday we watched Empire/Jedi back to back. As a kid I would only watch Empire if I could then watch Jedi.

But what I was getting at was people who had to wait the original 3 years between Empire and Jedi's release.

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I also meant in the 1980s when I was a kid. You had to wait for movies to release and then wait years for the sequel. VCR only came into play after the movies were out.

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Yes, and before the VCR, you had to wait for the annual theatrical re-release of Star Wars. After its initial very long run in '77, it opened again in the summer of '78 and '79, then again in '81 and '82. Empire did the same in maybe '81 (don't really recall it that summer, though) but definitely in the fall of '82. I only recall one theatrical re-release for Jedi in spring of '85, but by then the first movies were on video, and Jedi was soon to arrive on that medium as well.

The first two movies we ever rented for our VCR were Star Wars and Stripes.

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Personally, I first watched Empire and Jedi back to back for the first time, so I never had to live without knowing how the story was going to be paid off. I would be interest in people's thoughts who can remember the wait.
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This was the norm for everyone who grew up before streaming became common. The wait sucked but it made the payoff all that sweeter. Just like many things in life.

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I was really confused by this comment at first. But I meant in the 1980s, my parents rented all three movies and we watched A New Hope on Friday and on Saturday we watched Empire/Jedi back to back. As a kid I would only watch Empire if I could then watch Jedi.

But what I was getting at was people who had to wait the original 3 years between Empire and Jedi's release.

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I also meant in the 1980s when I was a kid. You had to wait for movies to release and then wait years for the sequel. VCR only came into play after the movies were out.

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All the OT was out on VHS by 1986. All the OT were out in Theaters by 1983. So, when this letter was written you were still in the gap that Jedi had not been released. There is only a very narrow window where you could have seen Empire and not seen Jedi at all. And then a slightly bigger window where you couldn't watch the movies semi-at-will. But by 1986 you could watch all the movies in a row on VHS.

https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Wars_home_video_releases#:~:text=The%20very%20first%20home%20video,VideoDisc%2C%20and%20V2000%20tape%20cassettes

AI voice work has gotten pretty damn nuts.

Cool little convo with Nick Gillard.



Biggest revelation of this chat is that he turned down LOTR to do Shaft. Talk about a whiff!

What a great channel.

Bad Batch Season 3 Episode titles and release dates. The series finale hearkens back to one of the first lines of dialogue from their first appearance in Clone Wars Season 7. Lots of easter eggs in some of the other titles as well, particularly "Shadows of Tantiss", "The Harbinger", etc.

2/21: Confined, Paths Unknown, Shadows of Tantiss
2/28: A Different Approach
3/6: The Return
3/13: Infiltration, Extraction
3/20: Bad Territory
3/27: The Harbinger
4/3: Identity Crisis, Point of No Return
4/10: Juggernaut
4/17: Into the Breach
4/24: Flash Strike
5/1: The Cavalry Has Arrived