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Search "D&D at Austin Film Festival"

Made themselves look like they had no clue on a lot of things.
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a lot of that is damning for sure, but they (mostly) still pulled off an incredible multi-year story, juggling THOUSANDS of personnel across numerous countries and sorta stuck the landing, winning a ****-ton of awards, adulation and licensing dollars along the way.
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regardless, I bet they do not do a q&a session ever again.
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Hooooooo leeeeeeeee damn...

I'm still trying to wrap my mind around what I just read...
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I've been trying to be the voice of reason in the "Kathleen Kennedy has to go" argument for a long time now, but I'm gonna go ahead and predict that this is the straw that breaks the camel's back. Come January/February, I think Kennedy announces her resignation. But instead of being ousted, if IX is as successful as everyone thinks it's going to be, it'll be painted as a triumphant-ish handing of the torch to whoever's next. This kind of fallout has simply happened too much under her watch, but they're not going to paint her exit as anything other than a success (even though it'll be beyond apparent what's happening).
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TCTTS said:

I've been trying to be the voice of reason in the "Kathleen Kennedy has to go" argument for a long time now, but I'm going to go ahead and predict that this will end up being the straw that breaks the camel's back. Come January/February, I think Kennedy finally announces her resignation. But instead of being ousted, if IX is as successful as everyone thinks it's going to be, it'll be painted as a triumphant-ish handing of the torch to whoever's next. This kind of fallout has simply happened too much under her watch, but they're not going to be her leaving as anything but a success (even though it'll be beyond apparent what's happening).
absolutely. given her contract is up in the next year or so anyways, I assumed it was not going to be renewed before the next film was released.
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#BringGeorgeBack

#Kidding
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Honestly, the BEST move, in my opinion, is hand the film reigns over to Dave Filoni (I am talking the trilogy, not KK's job). Outside of George, he has done more to develop and expand the Star Wars universe than anyone else. He is GREAT with characters and story arcs.

And he is already an inside guy who people like and respect.
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I think he deserves some kind of head creative role for sure. But it takes a different type of personality to actually run both the big picture and the day-to-day, manage all the egos, productions, etc. I could see him co-running things, but they'd need an actual producer/exec type leading as well.
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Kevin Fiege movie fasttracked.....

Robert Downey Jr is Iron Fett
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TCTTS said:

I think he deserves some kind of head creative role for sure. But it takes a different type of personality to actually run both the big picture and the day-to-day, manage all the egos, productions, etc. I could even see him co-running things, but they'd need an actual producer/exec type leading as well.
I would argue he has as much as Riann, Colin, etc. Plus he is an inside guy already, and has juggled writing rooms, pre-prod teams, animation teams around the world, talent, etc. And he is the production lead on all animation. As a huge fan of all his work for the last 15 years, I think you are selling him a little short.
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/r/Freefolk are spiking the football left and right....





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I just can't imagine D&D saying... well Star Wars the OT has too much fantasy and we wanna really tone it down. Can you imagine had they gone with KOTOR? So glad this transpired and still can't believe those idiots said all that in an interview
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"The Lannisters send their regards"....
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This is good news to me. D&D are great adapters from source material. They have proven that.

But my confidence in their ability to run with epic level new material is suspect. They are very Kevin Sumlin to me that way.
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They have proven they don't know jack squat from their interview
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TCTTS has been quiet for a while. He better be grabbing his clipboard and badge and heading downtown for rumors.
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C@LAg said:

TCTTS said:


a lot of that is damning for sure, but they (mostly) still pulled off an incredible multi-year story, juggling THOUSANDS of personnel across numerous countries and sorta stuck the landing, winning a ****-ton of awards, adulation and licensing dollars along the way.
This. I feel the constant dogpile of D&D and the final season of GoT is way overdone. It's just one of those things that's cool to do at this point.

Sure, the final season or two weren't up to the standard of the series (a standard that the two of them are largely responsible for), but they were handed a pretty daunting task when the source material that was supposed to be complete ran out. It was a solid effort. The way so many people treat it as garbage is too much.

If they were asked to leave Star Wars because of the supposed drop in quality of GoT, it would surprise me.
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It is BEYOND troubling, and has been almost since the start.

With all the resources at her command, from the richest entertainment conglomerate on the planet, with one of the most valuable and storied franchises, THAT is all she has been able to squeak out.

Fiege and team got out 17 movies in the period since TFA was announced back in 2012.

Plus they grew the licensed/toy revenues to be larger than SW as well.

It is a shocking outcome that no one would have expected.

And the fact the core trilogy had no guiding narrative from the start has been dumbfounding since Riann indicated he wanted to subvert everything and abandoned JJ's outline.
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Agreed.
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And for the record, while I am entertained by today's events, I am not happy about this.

Star Wars has been the franchise I am most connected to for my entire life. I am a HUGE consumer of the expended universe (canon and Legacy, all the books, comics and TV shows)

I am not a huge fan of the current trilogy due to its repetitive nature. I'm probably the lead cheerleader on the TLJ hate wagon, and I have little to no enthusiasm for TROS like most of you here, but I was fully ready to move beyond the Skywalker trilogy onto something else.

This just delays that even longer.

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I think it's ultimately a good thing, though. It's like the on-the-bubble head coach losing the game he was supposed to win, but it's the loss that finally gets him fired and gives the school the opportunity to go after the coach who can finally come in and really turn things around. If this leads to Kennedy's ousting, Disney can finally bring in the necessary figurehead the franchise deserves. And I really don't think there will be that much of a delay, cinematically, if any. December 2022 is still THREE years away. Either Feige's movie or Johnson's first movie can still be ready by then, no problem. But if it's 2023, so be it. We'll have plenty of Disney+ SW series to tide us over until then. That particular train ain't stopping.
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It's hard to fathom how much Disney has ****ed up the most iconic property in film history, yet here we are.
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If they fire Kennedy, why should we have faith Disney would hire anyone good and not another moron?
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redline248 said:

If they fire Kennedy, why should we have faith Disney would hire anyone good and not another moron?
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Because hopefully they're capable of learning from their mistakes? Also, it was Lucas who called/"hired" Kennedy in the first place. He would only sell if she was running the show. She basically came with the package. But now Disney obviously has 100% say-so.
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I held the opinion, until reading that twitter thread, that they did a pretty great job adapting the material when they had some available.
Multiple times they answered that they didnt even really consider it, or try to understand it. So was it just dumb luck that the first 5-6 seasons were adapted so well for the most part? I'm not ready to write their careers off, and I had actually looked forward to seeing what they had in mind. They thought enough of it that they presumably forced their exit from HBO as fast as possible, Will be interesting to see what they do instead.
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I saw that Kathleen Kennedy is trending in US, don't click. It is not anti-KK as you might originally surmise. In fact it is very very PRO KK. But the idiocy of those pro-KK people is just... WOW.
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This makes sense. With the streaming wars upon us, Netflix may have somehow forced B&W's hand...

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TCTTS said:

This makes sense. With the streaming wars upon us, Netflix may have somehow forced B&W's hand...


I can get that somewhat, but the Star Wars deal was on the table first, with a signed contract, for like a year, and Netflix would have been aware of that before signing their contract. So this does not make sense.

Plus not sure how much I would buy into what Rob Liefeld has to say. He has some cache in comics and a little in film just due to his association with Deadpool, but I doubt he has any first-hand insight here. (just throwing that out there).
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