Stop tipping - completely

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Jbob04
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I'm an over tipper and I enjoy tipping
Anchorhold
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Weed is a drug, not drugs.
Bruce Almighty
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Anchorhold said:

Weed is a drug, not drugs.



The Porkchop Express
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It's a good thread when it's debatable which of 2 people is the bigger idiot on the thread
BonfireNerd04
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I agree with OP. Tipping is a scam by the restaurant industry to guilt-trip customers into paying their workers so they don't have to.

It also reinforces a social bias that customer-facing jobs are more important than behind-the-scenes people. Why don't the cooks get tips?

And the system has gotten even worse in recent years as payment terminals are configured to prompt for tips even at restaurants that don't have waiters and hand your food over the counter.

This is one issue on which the US needs to follow the rest of the world's lead. Abolish the subminimum wage. Pay waiters by the hour like everyone else. Make tipping an optional reward for exceptionally good service.
Ragnar Danneskjoldd
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infinity ag said:

Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:

Tip generously to low paying service jobs. View it as tithing.

A blessing to all involved

Tipping is encouraging laziness. Don't give it a religious color. If you want to donate, give your money to orphans. Not to some 20 year old who will blow it up on weed.


People on this board have assured me weed is an unmitigated good with 0 downside and I bet you drink caffeine which kills more people than weed and weed was made illegal to protect the alcohol companies which are the real poisons, man. I'm not addicted, I just need it everyday to sleep with unrestricted access, it's just a plant.
Ragnar Danneskjoldd
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BonfireNerd04 said:

Make tipping an optional reward for exceptionally good service.


Boy have I got good news for you.
fc2112
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infinity ag said:

On 2nd thought, maybe it works to my benefit.

You all go ahead and throw in 30% tip and keep prices low. I pay a tip of 15% or lower and I get both low prices in restaurants AND give a low tip.

I really don't know why I am fighting the battle that is to my disadvantage. Go ahead and pay HUGE tips. Lower prices for me.
JamesPShelley
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Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:

infinity ag said:

Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:

Tip generously to low paying service jobs. View it as tithing.

A blessing to all involved

Tipping is encouraging laziness. Don't give it a religious color. If you want to donate, give your money to orphans. Not to some 20 year old who will blow it up on weed.


People on this board have assured me weed is an unmitigated good with 0 downside and I bet you drink caffeine which kills more people than weed and weed was made illegal to protect the alcohol companies which are the real poisons, man. I'm not addicted, I just need it everyday to sleep with unrestricted access, it's just a plant.
Waiting for the wet towel Cola ag to chime in with his antiquated take.

He must have changed his tag.
Talon2DSO
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Get rid of minimum wage and solve the problem. Min wage needs to be $0.00.
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BonfireNerd04 said:

I agree with OP. Tipping is a scam by the restaurant industry to guilt-trip customers into paying their workers so they don't have to.

It also reinforces a social bias that customer-facing jobs are more important than behind-the-scenes people. Why don't the cooks get tips?

And the system has gotten even worse in recent years as payment terminals are configured to prompt for tips even at restaurants that don't have waiters and hand your food over the counter.

This is one issue on which the US needs to follow the rest of the world's lead. Abolish the subminimum wage. Pay waiters by the hour like everyone else. Make tipping an optional reward for exceptionally good service.
Wouldn't the restaurant have to charge more for the food they serve if they had to pay the wait staff more? Seems like you have to pay either way. At least with tipping you can reward good service and penalize bad.
Ragnar Danneskjoldd
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Better yet, get rid of income tax
TXAG 05
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The Kraken said:

BonfireNerd04 said:

I agree with OP. Tipping is a scam by the restaurant industry to guilt-trip customers into paying their workers so they don't have to.

It also reinforces a social bias that customer-facing jobs are more important than behind-the-scenes people. Why don't the cooks get tips?

And the system has gotten even worse in recent years as payment terminals are configured to prompt for tips even at restaurants that don't have waiters and hand your food over the counter.

This is one issue on which the US needs to follow the rest of the world's lead. Abolish the subminimum wage. Pay waiters by the hour like everyone else. Make tipping an optional reward for exceptionally good service.
Wouldn't the restaurant have to charge more for the food they serve if they had to pay the wait staff more? Seems like you have to pay either way. At least with tipping you can reward good service and penalize bad.


Exactly. If tipping is replaced by paying waiters higher wages, you are still going to be paying for it because the cost of meals will go way up, plus there will be no motivation for the waiter to put in any effort since they will be paid the same no matter what
Slicer97
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The tipping on a percentage thing is stupid though.

Why should the waiter get more money because I ordered a steak? Or less if I ordered the chicken breast?

They performed the exact same service in either case.
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My son is a server and we have these discussions all the time. He worked 12 hours total on 12/23 and 12/24…he averaged $100 an hour. He works at a mid to high class establishment and already knew Christmas time is the time to work. He goes to school full time and works a couple of times a week just to work during Christmas break. He is also the master at upselling people so his avg bill is higher than others. He did well if you ask me.
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JamesPShelley said:

Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:

infinity ag said:

Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:

Tip generously to low paying service jobs. View it as tithing.

A blessing to all involved

Tipping is encouraging laziness. Don't give it a religious color. If you want to donate, give your money to orphans. Not to some 20 year old who will blow it up on weed.


People on this board have assured me weed is an unmitigated good with 0 downside and I bet you drink caffeine which kills more people than weed and weed was made illegal to protect the alcohol companies which are the real poisons, man. I'm not addicted, I just need it everyday to sleep with unrestricted access, it's just a plant.
Waiting for the wet towel Cola ag to chime in with his antiquated take.

He must have changed his tag.



lol who?
maroon barchetta
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You better tip your pizza delivery driver in Florida.

https://www.kbtx.com/2024/12/26/pizza-delivery-driver-accused-stabbing-customer-14-times-over-poor-tip/?fbclid=IwY2xjawHa8OVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHeUX6_XxKw7DCJN9xpJYVn191kveYQxyBTDS9gDvAraVsGicrQg81eyZXg_aem_Fi0WRFJUk04OWX8_qtq0kA
TexasAggiesWin
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Anyone who posts this on Christmas morning needs Jesus and some time in the clink
JamesPShelley
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Ghost of Bisbee said:

JamesPShelley said:

Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:

infinity ag said:

Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:

Tip generously to low paying service jobs. View it as tithing.

A blessing to all involved

Tipping is encouraging laziness. Don't give it a religious color. If you want to donate, give your money to orphans. Not to some 20 year old who will blow it up on weed.


People on this board have assured me weed is an unmitigated good with 0 downside and I bet you drink caffeine which kills more people than weed and weed was made illegal to protect the alcohol companies which are the real poisons, man. I'm not addicted, I just need it everyday to sleep with unrestricted access, it's just a plant.
Waiting for the wet towel Cola ag to chime in with his antiquated take.

He must have changed his tag.



lol who?
You know... the "Ban pot everywhere" fella.

Example:

A Poster: For sale: 2022 Ford Outback.220,000 miles. Hardly driven. $25,000

ColaAg (or whatever is the handle) "Ban pot everywhere". He's entertaining to a degree.
The Kraken
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So does the OP not tip anymore? Is this his excuse to not tip and be a jerk?
plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
infinity ag
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Crazy chick threw her life down the drain for a $2 tip she thought she was entitled to. People don't know what a "tip" means.

Lazy people want big bonuses for jobs that don't need any skills. Socialism at its best.

Pizza Delivery Woman Stabbed Pregnant Customer Over Bad Tip: Police
https://wtam.iheart.com/content/2024-12-26-pizza-delivery-woman-stabbed-pregnant-customer-over-bad-tip-police/

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A pizza delivery woman in Florida is accused of stabbing an unknowingly pregnant woman multiple times over a bad tip, according to an Osceola County Sheriff's Office affidavit.

Brianna Alvelo, 22, was charged with attempted murder, home invasion with a firearm, kidnapping and aggravated assault in relation to the alleged incident, court records stated. A man who accompanied Alvelo during the alleged stabbing hasn't yet been publicly identified.

The victim, her boyfriend and her 5-year-old daughter were staying at a motel in Kissimmee and celebrating a birthday when they ordered from Marco's Pizza on Sunday (December 22), according to the affidavit, which is based on the woman's interview with the Osceola County Sheriff's Office. The pizza reportedly cost about $33 and the woman asked for change for a $50 bill.

Alvelo didn't have change and the woman searched for smaller bills, allegedly giving the driver only a $2 tip. The woman told police that she heard a loud knocking on the door sometime after initially interacting with Alvelo, at which point a man and a woman wearing all black, including face masks, allegedly barged into the room when she opened the door.

The man allegedly pulled out a silver revolver and demanded the woman's boyfriend go into the bathroom at which point the other person, suspected to be Alvelo, pulled out a pocket knife. Alvelo then looked through the woman's purse and broke the victim's daughter's Nintendo Switch.

The victim said she turned away to shield her child, at which point she was stabbed in her lower back. The woman then "threw her daughter onto the bed and attempted to pick up her phone," at which point Alvelo allegedly grabbed and smashed it and "began striking her multiple times with the knife."
The man who allegedly had the gun then yelled at the second person that it was time to go, ending the assault, according to the affidavit. The victim was reportedly stabbed 14 times, which included suffering wounds to her chest, arms, legs and abdomen.

The woman reportedly discovered she was pregnant while receiving treatment at a nearby hospital. Alvelo is being held on a $55,000 bail at the Osceola County Jail, with prosecutors requesting she be held without bond during her initial court appearance, claiming the incident was a "punishable by life offense."



infinity ag
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Slicer97 said:

The tipping on a percentage thing is stupid though.

Why should the waiter get more money because I ordered a steak? Or less if I ordered the chicken breast?

They performed the exact same service in either case.

Ban tipping. Solve all problems.

Make America Great Again.
infinity ag
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The Kraken said:

BonfireNerd04 said:

I agree with OP. Tipping is a scam by the restaurant industry to guilt-trip customers into paying their workers so they don't have to.

It also reinforces a social bias that customer-facing jobs are more important than behind-the-scenes people. Why don't the cooks get tips?

And the system has gotten even worse in recent years as payment terminals are configured to prompt for tips even at restaurants that don't have waiters and hand your food over the counter.

This is one issue on which the US needs to follow the rest of the world's lead. Abolish the subminimum wage. Pay waiters by the hour like everyone else. Make tipping an optional reward for exceptionally good service.
Wouldn't the restaurant have to charge more for the food they serve if they had to pay the wait staff more? Seems like you have to pay either way. At least with tipping you can reward good service and penalize bad.

Right. It is better to pay a fixed charge for the item you are buying rather than this wishy washy scammy way of saying something costs $100 and then adding 20-25% tip over it. We have to pay about 10% tax anyway, so it comes up to about $135.

I'd rather the vendor charge me $135 and I pay it or decide to go elsewhere.

Tax cannot be helped at this point.

Aggie Dad 26
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fc2112 said:

Tipping is simply a way for employers to get customers to offset part of the cost of having employees. It's not for the server.

Minimum wage in Texas is $7.25 an hour. Employers get to pay servers $2.13 an hour and then count tips towards meeting the minimum wage. If we all quit tipping, employers would just have to pay $7.25 an hour.

Fact is - too many of you like tipping and feeling like the big spender for throwing out that extra $1 bill. Well, enjoy the little nubber that gives you, but it doesn't do anything for the server. At the end of the night, they still just get $7.25 an hour.

So when they flip that pad around and it starts at 18% - just select custom tip and make it 0. And stare right at the server the whole time you do it. You're doing society a big favor by getting rid of this antiquated, dumb practice.


Im getting better at tipping less and tipping correctly
deer corn
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I'd rather give to the common man as a tithe than corrupt churches and pastors.
BonfireNerd04
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TXAG 05 said:

The Kraken said:

BonfireNerd04 said:

I agree with OP. Tipping is a scam by the restaurant industry to guilt-trip customers into paying their workers so they don't have to.

It also reinforces a social bias that customer-facing jobs are more important than behind-the-scenes people. Why don't the cooks get tips?

And the system has gotten even worse in recent years as payment terminals are configured to prompt for tips even at restaurants that don't have waiters and hand your food over the counter.

This is one issue on which the US needs to follow the rest of the world's lead. Abolish the subminimum wage. Pay waiters by the hour like everyone else. Make tipping an optional reward for exceptionally good service.
Wouldn't the restaurant have to charge more for the food they serve if they had to pay the wait staff more? Seems like you have to pay either way. At least with tipping you can reward good service and penalize bad.


Exactly. If tipping is replaced by paying waiters higher wages, you are still going to be paying for it because the cost of meals will go way up, plus there will be no motivation for the waiter to put in any effort since they will be paid the same no matter what


If we need tips to "motivate" workers, why stop with waiters? Let's have the cooks, dishwashers, and everyone else at the restaurant work for tips too. And the guy who drives the delivery truck to the restaurant. And all the way down the supply chain to the farmers and ranchers who produce the food.

And then we could have a steakhouse offering a 12 oz ribeye for only $9...but you'd be expected to tip a total of 400-500% in order for everyone to get a fair wage.
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Krazykat said:

Tips for table service only! If I order at a counter while standing, then no tip.


This.
swimmerbabe11
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Bruce Almighty said:

infinity ag said:

Ragnar Danneskjoldd said:

Tip generously to low paying service jobs. View it as tithing.

A blessing to all involved

Tipping is encouraging laziness. Don't give it a religious color. If you want to donate, give your money to orphans. Not to some 20 year old who will blow it up on weed.


I waited tables to pay my way through college and grad school. Not a dime of that went to drugs.


same. and if I lost my job and needed to make ends meet, I'd do it again in a heartbeat to keep the bills paid.
Danny Vermin
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I'm an overtipper and 90 % really appreciate it and tell you so.
jmm
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I am an overtipper as well. We consider it as part of our ministry to help people and be a positive influence. Typically tip 25-40% of the food/beverage bill. The servers really seem to appreciate it. We have gotten to know quite a few of them over the years as they worked their way thru college and/or being a young adult. Several still keep in touch after graduating and moving on with their adult life.
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