My Brother just tested negative for CV but wants to have surgery tomorrow…

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JOHN2010 said:

People who still wear masks and take covid tests

How DARE we be considerate of other people! **** EM!
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Glad he said something and is recovering well. Anesthesia is not something I would ever **** around with.
Ags4DaWin
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Those who took the vaxx tend to be worse off for the new variants. So if ur vaxxed that could be a contributing factor.

Additionally if u suffer from diabetes or other inflammatory diseases ur experience will be worse.

Hypersensitivity to the spike protein which is a direct result of most of the vaxxes especially the mRNA oned causes the body to overreact and people to have heavier symptoms than the unvaxxed.

It's not the virus itself that hurts you, it's the cascade of heavier than normal inflammatory responses triggered by the spike protein and the subsequent opportunistic bacterial infections and other secondary inflammatory effects.

The spike protein is the biggest issue because it attaches to so many cell membranes and then triggers the immune system to attack a person's own body in brutal ways.

So people with heightened inflammatory responses like autoimmune disorders and diabetes and asthma are at higher risk.
Ags4DaWin
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The studies now show that masks didn't work and caused more upper respiratory infections than saved people from COVID infection even during the height of the outbreak. Because the number of people it saved was 0.

Which anyone who was capable of logical reasoning during the outbreak was trying to tell people.

Any 1st year med student or person who has taken basic Healthcare OSHA knows that even high level surgical masks are designed to repel SPATTER which are water droplets that contain fluid infected with borne blood pathogens.

Additionally COVID tests do next to nothing because by the time you have enough of the virus in you to cause symptoms and warrant a test you have already been infectious for 24 hours and have likely spread it to the people you are in contact with on a daily basis.....you know...like the flu...or a cold. Additionally the COVID test does not tell you if you are infectious and can give false positives.

That's why contact tracing didn't work during the outbreak.

But go on and lecture the rest of us on why taking useless precautions makes you a good person.

I am constantly amazed at how COVID broke many people's ability to think rationally.
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You got it dude.
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And keep blowing out those birthday candles stuck in the middle of your birthday cake.
Ags4DaWin
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It IS a great way to keep that immune system tuned up.
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Ags4DaWin said:

The studies now show that masks didn't work and caused more upper respiratory infections than saved people from COVID infection even during the height of the outbreak. Because the number of people it saved was 0.

Which anyone who was capable of logical reasoning during the outbreak was trying to tell people.

Any 1st year med student or person who has taken basic Healthcare OSHA knows that even high level surgical masks are designed to repel SPATTER which are water droplets that contain fluid infected with borne blood pathogens.

Additionally COVID tests do next to nothing because by the time you have enough of the virus in you to cause symptoms and warrant a test you have already been infectious for 24 hours and have likely spread it to the people you are in contact with on a daily basis.....you know...like the flu...or a cold. Additionally the COVID test does not tell you if you are infectious and can give false positives.

That's why contact tracing didn't work during the outbreak.

But go on and lecture the rest of us on why taking useless precautions makes you a good person.

I am constantly amazed at how COVID broke many people's ability to think rationally.


4 years later and there are still people who don't understand this...some "doctors" on this very board
Ags4DaWin
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It's the implication that if you think rationally and don't wear a mask or take tests that you are being inconsiderate of others that I have a problem with.

Almost ALL the people I know that wear masks do it either 1) because it's their new security blanket for their irrational feelings of paranoia and anxiety. Or 2) to show how good of a person they are for "being considerate".

And then they try to shame people who do not live in constant fear like themselves.

*shrugs*

Wear your mask. Take your tests. Cool.

Just don't try to lie to me and tell me ur doing it because it helps others and you're being considerate.

1) It helps noone
2) You're not
713nervy
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Did you hear that seatbelts save lives? I bet that's total bull***** Keep the government out of my business!
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Seatbelts do save lives. Masks do not save people from covid. Proven. It's tard flair.
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Okay.
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Ags4DaWin said:

It's the implication that if you think rationally and don't wear a mask or take tests that you are being inconsiderate of others that I have a problem with.

Almost ALL the people I know that wear masks do it either 1) because it's their new security blanket for their irrational feelings of paranoia and anxiety. Or 2) to show how good of a person they are for "being considerate".

And then they try to shame people who do not live in constant fear like themselves.

*shrugs*

Wear your mask. Take your tests. Cool.

Just don't try to lie to me and tell me ur doing it because it helps others and you're being considerate.

1) It helps noone
2) You're not
Good gosh you are a Cliff Claven

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If wearing masks were effective, why did we still have a pandemic?

But back to the OP. He tested negative. That means he doesn't have it anymore. I could not imagine a world where I cared at that point. Why do you?
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Nervy out here trying to keep the dream alive.
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Easy to see why she's a single cat lady
713nervy
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You're both obsessed with me. It's kind of sweet.
Ags4DaWin
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713nervy said:

Did you hear that seatbelts save lives? I bet that's total bull***** Keep the government out of my business!


Seat belts totally save lives. It's rational and been proven multiple times over. Your analogy and attempt to belittle me is sort of what I have come to expect from you sadly. And comes across as petty and small minded.

It has also been proven that masks do absolutely nothing. The government, WHO, and the CDC have retracted EVERY. SINGLE. recommendation and "study" they published saying that masks did anything to stop the spread.

I know science. Biology Major with microbiology minor. Graduated Suma from A&M. I know viruses and studied under virologists and people that work for the CDC.

So this is a subject that I am very familiar with.

For that reason I don't appreciate people equating good knowledge with science deniers.

I am not one of those. In fact I know a whole hell of alot more about this than 99% of people that post on these boards including the people with the red cross in their handle.
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*a lot
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Ags4DaWin said:

713nervy said:

Did you hear that seatbelts save lives? I bet that's total bull***** Keep the government out of my business!


Seat belts totally save lives. It's rational and been proven multiple times over. Your analogy and attempt to belittle me is sort of what I have come to expect from you sadly. And comes across as petty and small minded.

It has also been proven that masks do absolutely nothing. The government, WHO, and the CDC have retracted EVERY. SINGLE. recommendation and "study" they published saying that masks did anything to stop the spread.

I know science. Biology Major with microbiology minor. Graduated Suma from A&M. I know viruses and studied under virologists and people that work for the CDC.

So this is a subject that I am very familiar with.

For that reason I don't appreciate people equating good knowledge with science deniers.

I am not one of those. In fact I know a whole hell of alot more about this than 99% of people that post on these boards including the people with the red cross in their handle.
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Hope your brother is doing well, OP - praying for a positive outcome
MouthBQ98
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maroon barchetta said:

MouthBQ98 said:

Probably best to let them know he's been sick.

Fwiw, CoVID is just another coronavirus cold for like 99% of us now. Virtually everyone has an immune resistance from having had it now and the current variants are weak sauce. It's a concern for people that would need to be concerned about any cold or respiratory virus, and not at all for anyone else, in my view, so it isn't that big a deal whether to bring it up or not.


Daughter in Houston had it this week. She's had it twice before, both times after traveling and having long flights and airport waiting times.

She was pretty miserable the first couple days this round.

Please tell us more, doctor.


My understanding is there are 4 Coronaviruses that caused cold symptoms in humans before CoVID. CoVID is the 5th. Granted it is more severe is some small fraction of the population than most colds because our immune systems aren't typically as finely tuned to it but it it isn't like coronavirus colds are new to humanity. The spike protein variations in CoVID can cause some more severe effects in some people.

I've caught it once myself, tested positive. It was a fairly bad cold but not the worst I've had, and it wasn't as bad as when I caught RSA a few months later when it was going around. Haven't had CoVID since that one time. For the record, I did get the vaccination back in early 2021, when it was all the rage. Now we know quite a bit more about it. I do nothing to avoid it I wouldn't do for other cold and flu viruses. I.e. wash my hands like a civilized person and keep to myself if I get a cold.

I don't see that it is particularly dangerous any longer as it follows the typical viral evolution path of becoming more highly contagious but less symptomatic, as collective immune resistance and social behaviors favors lower symptom strains to spread more easily. The elderly and immune compromised are of course an exception to that general rule.

If you know from experience you are more vulnerable or reactive to it, then by all means be more cautious.
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