My Brother just tested negative for CV but wants to have surgery tomorrow…

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He had Covid for 8 days before testing negative this morning. He's had shoulder replacement scheduled for two month for tomorrow.

He doesn't want to tell the hospital or the surgeon. I wrote him this note:

" A few things for you to consider:

CV attacks the respiratory system, leaving it compromised until it heals sufficiently. Just because you might not be positive, you will still be affected.

You will be under a general anesthesia for 2 hours or more with a compromised respiratory system

You will be undergoing a major highly invasive surgery and need your to be at full strength for the stress of the surgery and the follow on recovery.

You will be on meds following ( and during the surgery ) that could be compromised.


I know you're tired of waiting, but be patient and do it right. Please don't be an idiot.

Your call. Just a few things worth mentioning. Again, don't compromise yourself. We're not getting any younger.

Let me know if I need to come up and help."

Inputs Ags? Of course funny comments welcome too!




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Sea Speed
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I honestly can't imagine caring about having COVID, let alone taking a test for it.
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Sounds reasonable to me, but I'd suggest asking the person with the medical degree.

I'm guessing this was your brother's reaction?

713nervy
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I'm with you. I'd want my sibling to call TODAY and make the disclosure. It might not affect his surgery - they might say no problem. But it doesn't sound like any of us are medical professionals so far on this thread, nor his surgeon, and they know far more than we do. That's why they're doing their job and we are not.
maroon barchetta
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CV?

Like the snooty version of a resume?
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maroon barchetta said:

CV?

Like the snooty version of a resume?
713nervy
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Now THATS a good sock!
maroon barchetta
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713nervy said:

Now THATS a good sock!


It's no critter cam
Wolfpac 08
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maroon barchetta said:

713nervy said:

Now THATS a good sock!


It's no critter cam
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713nervy said:

Now THATS a good sock!

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https://www.asahq.org/about-asa/newsroom/news-releases/2023/06/asa-and-apsf-release-updated-recommendations-for-elective-surgery-after-covid-19-infection
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By all means deceive the medical professionals, they are just instruments of a corrupt government. / morons
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Doctor Rosenrosen said:

By all means deceive the medical professionals, they are just instruments of a corrupt government. / morons
note:

no red plus, so not a real doctor.
Doctor Rosenrosen
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C@LAg said:

Doctor Rosenrosen said:

By all means deceive the medical professionals, they are just instruments of a corrupt government. / morons
note:

no red plus, so not a real doctor.
NoahAg
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Why does it matter what the test said? You said nothing about how he actually feels and whether or not he has any kind of symptoms of being sick.
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Should tell them about any respiratory issues from the past 1-2 weeks. I wouldn't tell him any more than you did. You gave your $.02, but he's a big boy and the decision and risk is his to own
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NoahAg said:

Why does it matter what the test said? You said nothing about how he actually feels and whether or not he has any kind of symptoms of being sick.
The tests were never designed to test for a respiratory virus. They are crap and the person who invented them stated a such in 2020.
Ags4DaWin
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He's your brother.

It's his decision. Talk to him and express your concerns. But he is also a grown man. Don't treat him like a child.

Telling him not to be an idiot was condescending and if I was your brother I would be pretty pissed at you.
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agracer said:

NoahAg said:

Why does it matter what the test said? You said nothing about how he actually feels and whether or not he has any kind of symptoms of being sick.
The tests were never designed to test for a respiratory virus. They are crap and the person who invented them stated a such in 2020.

You sure about? Got a link?
Ginormus Ag
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You should not have written him a note.

You should have just beat his ass and given him a wedgie, purple nurple and then a wet Willie. That is how you get your message across to a brother.
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Sea Speed said:

I honestly can't imagine caring about having COVID, let alone taking a test for it.


You might not care but I'm sure his doctor would.
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OP, you are doing the right thing. Going into a surgery and not disclosing a recent illness seems like an unnecessary risk.I can pretty much guarantee that his Anesthesiologist would like this information, but at the end of the day all you can do is say what you have already said to your brother and let him decide what risks he think are appropriate.
NoahAg
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Again, the OP is missing all the important details:

Was he actually sick for 8 days, or did he just test positive?
How does he feel now? Any symptoms of anything?
Is he an otherwise healthy person, or is he a 300 lb diabetic smoker with high blood pressure and other ailments?
concac
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NoahAg said:

Again, the OP is missing all the important details:

Was he actually sick for 8 days, or did he just test positive?
How does he feel now? Any symptoms of anything?
Is he an otherwise healthy person, or is he a 300 lb diabetic smoker with high blood pressure and other ailments?
Seems like this information is something maybe someone like, you know, a doctor, would need to know. Going under anesthesia is no joke, healthy or not.

And it doesn't have to be Covid. Could be the flu or a cold. Some of you are just too myopic.

Just a thought.
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Yeah, advocate for the FAFO approach.
Wolfpac 08
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Hope your brother is doing well, OP - praying for a positive outcome
713nervy
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Wolfpac 08 said:

Hope your brother is doing well, OP - praying for a positive outcome

What he said. Shoot us an update to let us know he woke up.
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Every time I've gone under, I was moderately pissed when awakened because I was in such a pleasant/deep sleep.

Sort of like, Sat or Sun morning, no worries...sleeping peacefully, then the damn neighbor starts their blower at 8:30 AM.

That being said, my approach is to be candid with my doctor about nearly everything, except maybe as per below.

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Update:

Yes, he was still symptomatic and he told them at check in that he had tested negative yesterday after being positive for 8 days. He had to get a full physical including a check out with a Respiratory Specialist prior to surgical check in, therefore his surgery was delayed 4 hours. It was that or come back in two months. He was also fully intubated for the procedure because his O2 levels were lower.

Procedure went well. His throat is pretty sore from the intubation but he's not in pain as he's still fully medicated. Will start his oral pain meds in the morning. His appointment was at 0600. He was initially supposed to be finished at 1000 but with the delay, finished up at 1530.

I'm relieved it went well.

Thanks for your inputs.
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Southlake
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Ags4DaWin said:

He's your brother.

It's his decision. Talk to him and express your concerns. But he is also a grown man. Don't treat him like a child.

Telling him not to be an idiot was condescending and if I was your brother I would be pretty pissed at you.
Well, He does get pissed when people tell him things he already knows…
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MouthBQ98
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Probably best to let them know he's been sick.

Fwiw, CoVID is just another coronavirus cold for like 99% of us now. Virtually everyone has an immune resistance from having had it now and the current variants are weak sauce. It's a concern for people that would need to be concerned about any cold or respiratory virus, and not at all for anyone else, in my view, so it isn't that big a deal whether to bring it up or not.
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MouthBQ98 said:

Probably best to let them know he's been sick.

Fwiw, CoVID is just another coronavirus cold for like 99% of us now. Virtually everyone has an immune resistance from having had it now and the current variants are weak sauce. It's a concern for people that would need to be concerned about any cold or respiratory virus, and not at all for anyone else, in my view, so it isn't that big a deal whether to bring it up or not.
Well I guess I'm a 1%er cause it kicked my *ss for two weeks at the end of Sept.
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MouthBQ98 said:

Probably best to let them know he's been sick.

Fwiw, CoVID is just another coronavirus cold for like 99% of us now. Virtually everyone has an immune resistance from having had it now and the current variants are weak sauce. It's a concern for people that would need to be concerned about any cold or respiratory virus, and not at all for anyone else, in my view, so it isn't that big a deal whether to bring it up or not.


Daughter in Houston had it this week. She's had it twice before, both times after traveling and having long flights and airport waiting times.

She was pretty miserable the first couple days this round.

Please tell us more, doctor.
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People who still wear masks and take covid tests
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